2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

[Dell]

I would be surprised, but even if they do, they are not winning enough to not give up a top5-7 pick, DeRozan is not a game changer.

It's LA and Kobe will be gone. They shouldn't have any problem landing a couple solid players. Whiteside, Randle, DeRozan, Clarkson and Russell isn't bad.

[gom]

This is exactly why it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if the Lakers pick doesn't convey this year. Next year's draft is much better. I don't see the Lakers adding any big free agents and making a huge leap in the standings.

That's pretty crazy, in my opinion. Right now the OKC and Miami picks are in the mid-20s. If LA becomes a contender next year or even just good enough to get out of the lottery (they'll have 50M to spend), your Lakers pick will be at least in the high teens. It would be tragic if all your assets are turned into late picks.

how are the Lakers going to become a contender ? they have nothing to attract FA and they are not in the position to make moves via trade, who are they going to add? best case scenario is paying +20m$/y for freaking DeMar DeRozan.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

"or even just good enough to get out of the lottery"

The history of the Lakers shows that they are rarely out of contention. Last year marked the first time they've been out of the postseason two years running since 1976. They have money, cap space, prestige, power, a huge audience, and a great city in which to play. Assuming they can't build a team that reaches the postseason is naive. In a few years they might very well be a contender.

[BobThornton]

This draft is just weak overall and difficult to predict, and therefore to draft, Hinkie is going to have to earn his salary by scouting and finding gems.

This is exactly why it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if the Lakers pick doesn't convey this year. Next year's draft is much better. I don't see the Lakers adding any big free agents and making a huge leap in the standings.

That's pretty crazy, in my opinion. Right now the OKC and Miami picks are in the mid-20s. If LA becomes a contender next year or even just good enough to get out of the lottery (they'll have 50M to spend), your Lakers pick will be at least in the high teens. It would be tragic if all your assets are turned into late picks.

People told us the same thing about the Lakers pick this year. Dozens of times on this board. Yeah yeah yeah, NEXT YEAR the Lakers will be lights out.

[shlo]

That's pretty crazy, in my opinion. Right now the OKC and Miami picks are in the mid-20s. If LA becomes a contender next year or even just good enough to get out of the lottery (they'll have 50M to spend), your Lakers pick will be at least in the high teens. It would be tragic if all your assets are turned into late picks.

how are the Lakers going to become a contender ? they have nothing to attract FA and they are not in the position to make moves via trade, who are they going to add? best case scenario is paying +20m$/y for freaking DeMar DeRozan.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

"or even just good enough to get out of the lottery"

The history of the Lakers shows that they are rarely out of contention. Last year marked the first time they've been out of the postseason two years running since 1976. They have money, cap space, prestige, power, a huge audience, and a great city in which to play. Assuming they can't build a team that reaches the postseason is naive. In a few years they might very well be a contender.

The Lakers have historically been a well run organization. Right now they are a poorly run organization. They no longer have Dr. buss and Jerry West steering this ship. I can't imagine a scenario in which the Lakers are not in the lottery again next season. Regardless, we can root for the Lakers to win or lose games, but in the end they finish where they finish and the lottery balls bounce the way they bounce.

[gom]

This is exactly why it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if the Lakers pick doesn't convey this year. Next year's draft is much better. I don't see the Lakers adding any big free agents and making a huge leap in the standings.

That's pretty crazy, in my opinion. Right now the OKC and Miami picks are in the mid-20s. If LA becomes a contender next year or even just good enough to get out of the lottery (they'll have 50M to spend), your Lakers pick will be at least in the high teens. It would be tragic if all your assets are turned into late picks.

People told us the same thing about the Lakers pick this year. Dozens of times on this board. Yeah yeah yeah, NEXT YEAR the Lakers will be lights out.

Yeah, if you bet they will be always bad then sure, you'll be right, however, aren't you trying to build your team the same way? Getting good draft picks and then investing in free agency? They have Russell and Randle. You guys have Noel and Okafor. You both have tons of cap space next year.

[BobThornton]

That's pretty crazy, in my opinion. Right now the OKC and Miami picks are in the mid-20s. If LA becomes a contender next year or even just good enough to get out of the lottery (they'll have 50M to spend), your Lakers pick will be at least in the high teens. It would be tragic if all your assets are turned into late picks.

People told us the same thing about the Lakers pick this year. Dozens of times on this board. Yeah yeah yeah, NEXT YEAR the Lakers will be lights out.

Yeah, if you bet they will be always bad then sure, you'll be right, however, aren't you trying to build your team the same way? Getting good draft picks and then investing in free agency? They have Russell and Randle. You guys have Noel and Okafor. You both have tons of cap space next year.

No one here is claiming we'll be a contender or out of the lottery next year.

[gom]

People told us the same thing about the Lakers pick this year. Dozens of times on this board. Yeah yeah yeah, NEXT YEAR the Lakers will be lights out.

Yeah, if you bet they will be always bad then sure, you'll be right, however, aren't you trying to build your team the same way? Getting good draft picks and then investing in free agency? They have Russell and Randle. You guys have Noel and Okafor. You both have tons of cap space next year.

No one here is claiming we'll be a contender or out of the lottery next year.

Ah, good point. I also realized that this isn't where I meant to post. I thought this was the NBA Draft thread in another group.

All apologies.

[Dell]

This is exactly why it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if the Lakers pick doesn't convey this year. Next year's draft is much better. I don't see the Lakers adding any big free agents and making a huge leap in the standings.

That's pretty crazy, in my opinion. Right now the OKC and Miami picks are in the mid-20s. If LA becomes a contender next year or even just good enough to get out of the lottery (they'll have 50M to spend), your Lakers pick will be at least in the high teens. It would be tragic if all your assets are turned into late picks.

People told us the same thing about the Lakers pick this year. Dozens of times on this board. Yeah yeah yeah, NEXT YEAR the Lakers will be lights out.

Right, but objectively, next year Kobe is gone and he's absolutely dragging that team down right now. It's sad to see.

No one wants to come in and play with Kobe, but the appeal of being the next big Lakers star is a very powerful selling point.

[BobThornton]

That's pretty crazy, in my opinion. Right now the OKC and Miami picks are in the mid-20s. If LA becomes a contender next year or even just good enough to get out of the lottery (they'll have 50M to spend), your Lakers pick will be at least in the high teens. It would be tragic if all your assets are turned into late picks.

People told us the same thing about the Lakers pick this year. Dozens of times on this board. Yeah yeah yeah, NEXT YEAR the Lakers will be lights out.

Right, but objectively, next year Kobe is gone and he's absolutely dragging that team down right now. It's sad to see.

No one wants to come in and play with Kobe, but the appeal of being the next big Lakers star is a very powerful selling point.

Again, I heard the same thing this past off season. Free Agents want to win, generally speaking. The Lakers young players aren't ready to compete for championships. The Knicks are also supposed to be a big free agent draw, and that didn't happen this past off season either.

[OleSchool]

I wouldn't be surpised to see the Lakers land a pair of FAs like Whiteside and DeRozan.

I would be absolutely floored for the Lakers to land Whiteside.

What incentive does Whiteside have to leave?

a) Mia can pay him more
b) Mia is a better team
c) Mia is in a weaker conference so making the PO's is a lot easier
d) Mia has a better organization with Reilly at the helm
E) a better coach than Scott
f) Mia gave him his shot
g) cheaper taxes
h) Mia may not be LA but its close

So what pitch is LAL's using to sign him???

[Dell]

The pitch is Shaq, Kareem and Wilt have played here. How would you like to be next?

I think you guys underrate the draw of being a star on the Lakers.

[OleSchool]

The pitch is Shaq, Kareem and Wilt have played here. How would you like to be next?

I think you guys underrate the draw of being a star on the Lakers.

LMAO really????


So Whiteside we know Mia is much better over all but how would you like to make less $, pay more in taxes, be on a worse team with a slim to none chance for the PO's, and play for a worse coach?? All for the privilige of saying your next in the line of great C's??

By the way Whiteside most likely never saw Wilt and Kareem play. So he probably doesnt even care.

*edit*

and I think youre overestimating the draw of being on the Lakers. They stink

[phiphan]

I thought Miami doesn't have Whiteside's Bird Rights? He'll have to sign for like the MLE for Miami to get the third year. Many teams will have cap space next season though with the ceiling hike so Lakers may strike out.

[OleSchool]

I thought Miami doesn't have Whiteside's Bird Rights? He'll have to sign for like the MLE for Miami to get the third year. Many teams will have cap space next season though with the ceiling hike so Lakers may strike out.

Youre right, Mia doesnt hold his Bird right. they can offer a higher % of raises.

[Kobblehead]

Lol at the Lakers being a draw.

[Mik317]

Being the Man in LA >> Being Wade and Bosh's sidekick. I could see that being the sell. Whiteside seems like a guy who would go for that too.

[Duke4life831]

Any news/more observations on Brandon Ingram?

A lot of Duke fans are saying he's soft, has no confidence, bad body language

I feel Perry Jones III coming back again.

Doesn't really play like Perry. Right now he looks a lot like Quincy Miller 2.0. He's really not all that good if I'm being honest. He has potential cause he's long and has solid handles. His jumper is pretty bad, he's shooting terrible so far and his misses aren't close, they are really bad misses. Any other draft he probably would return to school because he doesn't look at all like a first round talent. A lot of people forget he shot up the recruit rankings during the high school all star circuit where practically no defense is played. Hopefully for him it's just a lack of strength thing and he puts on muscle. But in my opinion if he didn't have long arms he would probably be thought of as a 3-4 year college player

[KKell2507]

UM. HOLY CRAP, Ben Simmons.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400830776

[Mik317]

Inghram is long as ****

[tsmith]

id give a fair amount for simmons