Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason

[76ciology]

Spoiler:

So assuming the Harden trade doesn't happen...

And the Sixers realize Ben isn't going to work with Embiid...

What is the most realistic trade we can come up with that brings in a star who fits with Embiid better, and sends Ben to a team that likely wants him?

Keep in mind we want a win-now, ready to compete for a title type player.

I honestly can't find a better one than James Harden. This is why I think you do the deal and include Simmons. Because chances are high that we eventually realize Ben isn't going to work with Embiid and we look to move on from him. And other than Harden, there really isn't another player who is molded to come right in and compete for titles next to Joel.

Beal? Maybe, but Washington has Westbrook now and won't trade Beal for Ben.

LaVine?? I suppose, but you'd need more than him for Ben and I'm not sure LaVine is championship ready the way Harden is now.

Mitchell? He could work if the issues with Gobert persist, but would Ben make sense with Rudy??

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Beal should be on top.

Lavine
DeAaron Fox
Package of SGA and picks
Package of Coby White and Lavine.
Package of Sexton and Garland.
Package of DLo and Anthony Edwards.

Package of Terry Rozier and atleast 4 first round picks.

[76ciology]

Another Tobias trade if we trade Ben for Harden.

Pistons:
Tobias

Sixers:
Jerami Grant
McGruger and Josh Jackson (combined 10M for 2 years)

Jerami Grant looks like a bad contract. But it’s less worse than Tobi. While Pistons needs offense while Sixers would need defense once we trade Ben for Harden.

Curry
Harden
Danny Green
Jerami Grant
Joel Embiid

[Tomjas]

Spoiler:

So assuming the Harden trade doesn't happen...

And the Sixers realize Ben isn't going to work with Embiid...

What is the most realistic trade we can come up with that brings in a star who fits with Embiid better, and sends Ben to a team that likely wants him?

Keep in mind we want a win-now, ready to compete for a title type player.

I honestly can't find a better one than James Harden. This is why I think you do the deal and include Simmons. Because chances are high that we eventually realize Ben isn't going to work with Embiid and we look to move on from him. And other than Harden, there really isn't another player who is molded to come right in and compete for titles next to Joel.

Beal? Maybe, but Washington has Westbrook now and won't trade Beal for Ben.

LaVine?? I suppose, but you'd need more than him for Ben and I'm not sure LaVine is championship ready the way Harden is now.

Mitchell? He could work if the issues with Gobert persist, but would Ben make sense with Rudy??

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Beal should be on top.

Lavine
DeAaron Fox
Package of SGA and picks
Package of Coby White and Lavine.
Package of Sexton and Garland.
Package of DLo and Anthony Edwards.

Package of Terry Rozier and atleast 4 first round picks.

Most of those are awful

Portland should blow it up

CJ & stuff

[76ciology]

Spoiler:

So assuming the Harden trade doesn't happen...

And the Sixers realize Ben isn't going to work with Embiid...

What is the most realistic trade we can come up with that brings in a star who fits with Embiid better, and sends Ben to a team that likely wants him?

Keep in mind we want a win-now, ready to compete for a title type player.

I honestly can't find a better one than James Harden. This is why I think you do the deal and include Simmons. Because chances are high that we eventually realize Ben isn't going to work with Embiid and we look to move on from him. And other than Harden, there really isn't another player who is molded to come right in and compete for titles next to Joel.

Beal? Maybe, but Washington has Westbrook now and won't trade Beal for Ben.

LaVine?? I suppose, but you'd need more than him for Ben and I'm not sure LaVine is championship ready the way Harden is now.

Mitchell? He could work if the issues with Gobert persist, but would Ben make sense with Rudy??

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Beal should be on top.

Lavine
DeAaron Fox
Package of SGA and picks
Package of Coby White and Lavine.
Package of Sexton and Garland.
Package of DLo and Anthony Edwards.

Package of Terry Rozier and atleast 4 first round picks.

Most of those are awful

Portland should blow it up

CJ & stuff

That is why I dont think i wont get over it if we dont trade for Harden.

Actually those trades would be good in a year or two. Just as we thought Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray were inferior to Ben before.

[Tomjas]

Spoiler:

Beal should be on top.

Lavine
DeAaron Fox
Package of SGA and picks
Package of Coby White and Lavine.
Package of Sexton and Garland.
Package of DLo and Anthony Edwards.

Package of Terry Rozier and atleast 4 first round picks.

Most of those are awful

Portland should blow it up

CJ & stuff

That is why I dont think i wont get over it if we dont trade for Harden.

Actually those trades would be good in a year or two. Just as we thought Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray were inferior to Ben before.

Mitchell & Murray are still inferior

Harden is a one season thing unless you think that he’s going to be happy in Philly long term

BIG CHANCE that it’s Jimmy 2 with the only upside being that we can trade him

[76ciology]

Most of those are awful

Portland should blow it up

CJ & stuff

That is why I dont think i wont get over it if we dont trade for Harden.

Actually those trades would be good in a year or two. Just as we thought Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray were inferior to Ben before.

Mitchell & Murray are still inferior

Harden is a one season thing unless you think that he’s going to be happy in Philly long term

BIG CHANCE that it’s Jimmy 2 with the only upside being that we can trade him

I respect your opinion.
I’ll just say if we have Murray or Mitchell, we wouldn’t have threads of over 100 pages saying how we need a go to guy or a perimeter playmaker. May even not need to trade for Harden.

[Tomjas]

That is why I dont think i wont get over it if we dont trade for Harden.

Actually those trades would be good in a year or two. Just as we thought Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray were inferior to Ben before.

Mitchell & Murray are still inferior

Harden is a one season thing unless you think that he’s going to be happy in Philly long term

BIG CHANCE that it’s Jimmy 2 with the only upside being that we can trade him

I respect your opinion.
I’ll just say if we have Murray or Mitchell, we wouldn’t have threads of over 100 pages saying how we need a go to guy or a perimeter playmaker. May even not need to trade for Harden.

Murray & Mitchell both play with centres rated higher than Embiid

How’s that worked out?

Harden (so far) is cancer unless you think that KD, WB, Paul, etc are all wrong

Happy to trade Ben but go for fit on & off court and not just stats

Order of preference

Steph - won’t happen

Fit Klay - lol

Massive gap between those guys and everyone else including James as they are decent people and winners

[youngcrev]

There's maybe like 4 players I wouldn't deal Harris for straight up if it was on the table

[Iverson Armband]

That is why I dont think i wont get over it if we dont trade for Harden.

Actually those trades would be good in a year or two. Just as we thought Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray were inferior to Ben before.

Mitchell & Murray are still inferior

Harden is a one season thing unless you think that he’s going to be happy in Philly long term

BIG CHANCE that it’s Jimmy 2 with the only upside being that we can trade him

I respect your opinion.
I’ll just say if we have Murray or Mitchell, we wouldn’t have threads of over 100 pages saying how we need a go to guy or a perimeter playmaker. May even not need to trade for Harden.

Yup, these are the same people who still think Ben is better than Booker or Beal lol and would have laughed at you a year and a half ago.

[the_process]

Harris back to DET is a solid idea. They have to be hating that Jerami contract already. They should be added to the list of potential trade partners. They might even have the assets for Ben depending on where their pick falls.

[PhillyPhilly]

To the people who are obsessed with moving Harris...can you tell me who replaces his 20ppg please? And then can you tell me who line-ups in the PF and SF positions? Or do you just want to deal him to make yourself feel better because you hated the original trade?

[the_process]

There's maybe like 4 players I wouldn't deal Harris for straight up if it was on the table

IDK. 4 might be high. The only big money (25M+) I would reject out of hand is Westbrook, and that’s solely because I hate his game. Anyone else, I’d be willing to negotiate.

EDIT: NM, I skipped over the important clarifier STRAIGHT UP somehow.

[youngcrev]

There's maybe like 4 players I wouldn't deal Harris for straight up if it was on the table

IDK. 4 might be high. The only big money (25M+) I would reject out of hand is Westbrook, and that’s solely because I hate his game. Anyone else, I’d be willing to negotiate.

I'd maybe take Westbrook...

I wouldn't take Wiggins. He's a smaller, worse version of the same guy.

I wouldn't take Horford back.

I wouldn't take Love. He's done.

I wouldn't Hayward because I don't think he's that much better and he's such an injury risk.

I probably wouldn't take Klay, though I might regret saying that in a year.

I wouldnt take Kemba if the Celtics were willing to do it due to the implication of his injury outlook.

[LloydFree]

There's maybe like 4 players I wouldn't deal Harris for straight up if it was on the table

4. Kevin Love
3. Gordon Hayward
2. Kemba Walker
1. Andrew Wiggins

[youngcrev]

To the people who are obsessed with moving Harris...can you tell me who replaces his 20ppg please? And then can you tell me who line-ups in the PF and SF positions? Or do you just want to deal him to make yourself feel better because you hated the original trade?

If you unpair the contract they gave him from the trade, I didn't hate it (though it was an overpay). The contract is the issue. So when you look at it all together, you basically gave up 2 1sts and a max salary slot to shell out a massive contract to an above average starter...

As for replacing his 20 ppg, other guys would get more shots, and you'd be getting another player back... I don't think it's all that complicated.

Now relax, Shahara.

[Kobblehead]

As long as the player doesn't have a longer length on his deal, I don't think there's a single trade I wouldn't make for Harris.

[PhillyPhilly]

To the people who are obsessed with moving Harris...can you tell me who replaces his 20ppg please? And then can you tell me who line-ups in the PF and SF positions? Or do you just want to deal him to make yourself feel better because you hated the original trade?

If you unpair the contract they gave him from the trade, I didn't hate it (though it was an overpay). The contract is the issue. So when you look at it all together, you basically gave up 2 1sts and a max salary slot to shell out a massive contract to an above average starter...

As for replacing his 20 ppg, other guys would get more shots, and you'd be getting another player back... I don't think it's all that complicated.

Now relax, Shahara.

That's a weak excuses though. Which "player back"? It's Ok to cry and moan about Harris all day like many on here love to do...but the fact is getting someone like Tucker to replace Tobi would weaken this team. Ben already kills the team offensively by refusing to shoot..taking away Tobi would only do further damage imo.

[PhillyPhilly]

As long as the player doesn't have a longer length on his deal, I don't think there's a single trade I wouldn't make for Harris.

And that's why you're on this forum and have no position in an nba front office.

[Kobblehead]

As long as the player doesn't have a longer length on his deal, I don't think there's a single trade I wouldn't make for Harris.

And that's why you're on this forum and have no position in an nba front office.

Elton, does the phone they give you even make outgoing calls? Since Morey came to town, the thing me and you have in common is that we're both not GMs.

[76ciology]

Harris back to DET is a solid idea. They have to be hating that Jerami contract already. They should be added to the list of potential trade partners. They might even have the assets for Ben depending on where their pick falls.

I know fl311 says Tobi has no value. But i think he has value if you’ll just be creative.

I mean if you are looking to trade Tobi for Harden or Beal, that certainly wont happen.

But if you do a Harden trade, options like the Jerami Grant for Tobias trade looks good for both teams. You can trade for less talented players but has value because they can provide us something we need due to change of structure.