Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4

[RedSalsa]

Dude. CJ is being paid 30 million for next three seasons. He plays on Portland team notorious for not playing defense.

We have seen how many points Ben can score when he actually is aggressive.

CJ will be hunted down in the playoffs. That’s where all the problems start. The playoffs.

The only CJ deal I would take is CJ plus norm powell (50 million in salary) for Simmons/Shake or whoever needs to get close to salary matching

Kuclas, strange that you’re still talking like we have some kind of leverage and can be the one pointing out flaws here. CJ not being on a good defensive team isnt the type of thing a team with a guy who first disappeared on his team and then refused to report to camp can harp on. It hits harder for them to point out those flaws in Ben as an asset than vice versa.

I also don’t think you all should assume CJ is on the table. The blazers don’t want to trade Lillard’s companion in arms who just had his best season for a guy who again no showed in the PO and again failed to take any accountability for it. The team needs to impress Dame with how serious about a championship and how together they are, trading for Simmons and his flaws honestly seems like it’s likely to be punching the ticket for his exit.

Sorry, but we do have leverage. Josh Harris is a billionaire, he could easily eat Simmon's entire contract and just sit his butt for the next 4 years. Sixers already weren't attracting brand name free agents and our cap situation going forward means we're always going to be looking for vet min or MLE level guys who don't have as many options.

Also, I'm not worried about the other agents holding this against the Sixers, pretty sure many competing agents would love to see Rich Paul's power blow up in his face between the Nerlen's suit and then one of his bigger clients seeing their careers wasted away b/c Paul tried to heavy hand a team that was in the drivers seat thanks to a 4 year contract.

As a fan, I'm so fed up with Ben that I'd support the team ruining his career to spite him after he middle fingered all of us by refusing to admit and fix his freaking head and shooting. Let him ROT.

This

I would let him sit we’ll be a top 4 seed if he plays or not. Maxey and Thybulle can easily fill his numbers. Play hard ball and let the baby miss checks.

[JRoy]

Easily, gotcha

[Negrodamus]

Kuclas, strange that you’re still talking like we have some kind of leverage and can be the one pointing out flaws here. CJ not being on a good defensive team isnt the type of thing a team with a guy who first disappeared on his team and then refused to report to camp can harp on. It hits harder for them to point out those flaws in Ben as an asset than vice versa.

I also don’t think you all should assume CJ is on the table. The blazers don’t want to trade Lillard’s companion in arms who just had his best season for a guy who again no showed in the PO and again failed to take any accountability for it. The team needs to impress Dame with how serious about a championship and how together they are, trading for Simmons and his flaws honestly seems like it’s likely to be punching the ticket for his exit.

Sorry, but we do have leverage. Josh Harris is a billionaire, he could easily eat Simmon's entire contract and just sit his butt for the next 4 years. Sixers already weren't attracting brand name free agents and our cap situation going forward means we're always going to be looking for vet min or MLE level guys who don't have as many options.

Also, I'm not worried about the other agents holding this against the Sixers, pretty sure many competing agents would love to see Rich Paul's power blow up in his face between the Nerlen's suit and then one of his bigger clients seeing their careers wasted away b/c Paul tried to heavy hand a team that was in the drivers seat thanks to a 4 year contract.

As a fan, I'm so fed up with Ben that I'd support the team ruining his career to spite him after he middle fingered all of us by refusing to admit and fix his freaking head and shooting. Let him ROT.

This

I would let him sit we’ll be a top 4 seed if he plays or not. Maxey and Thybulle can easily fill his numbers. Play hard ball and let the baby miss checks.

As much as I dislike Ben's game, we are not a 4 seed without him. The Hawks are going to build on their success, Nets and Bucks will continue to lead the conference, the Knicks and Bulls will have passed us. We need another playmaker on this team to keep pace.

[the_process]

Sorry, but we do have leverage. Josh Harris is a billionaire, he could easily eat Simmon's entire contract and just sit his butt for the next 4 years. Sixers already weren't attracting brand name free agents and our cap situation going forward means we're always going to be looking for vet min or MLE level guys who don't have as many options.

Also, I'm not worried about the other agents holding this against the Sixers, pretty sure many competing agents would love to see Rich Paul's power blow up in his face between the Nerlen's suit and then one of his bigger clients seeing their careers wasted away b/c Paul tried to heavy hand a team that was in the drivers seat thanks to a 4 year contract.

As a fan, I'm so fed up with Ben that I'd support the team ruining his career to spite him after he middle fingered all of us by refusing to admit and fix his freaking head and shooting. Let him ROT.

This

I would let him sit we’ll be a top 4 seed if he plays or not. Maxey and Thybulle can easily fill his numbers. Play hard ball and let the baby miss checks.

As much as I dislike Ben's game, we are not a 4 seed without him. The Hawks are going to build on their success, Nets and Bucks will continue to lead the conference, the Knicks and Bulls will have passed us. We need another playmaker on this team to keep pace.

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

[Negrodamus]

This

I would let him sit we’ll be a top 4 seed if he plays or not. Maxey and Thybulle can easily fill his numbers. Play hard ball and let the baby miss checks.

As much as I dislike Ben's game, we are not a 4 seed without him. The Hawks are going to build on their success, Nets and Bucks will continue to lead the conference, the Knicks and Bulls will have passed us. We need another playmaker on this team to keep pace.

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

I think Rich Paul felt the pressure about the Maxey situation and had to leak there was no truth to it. He's powerful, but I think the league will allow him to have influence up to a point.

I'm standing by that we're going to get DLO and a bunch of unprotected picks for Ben. DLO is currently a fake young star that can be marketable and the picks give us flexibility to add to the roster down the road.

If DLO can become more of a Haliburton/Ball type guard and less trying to be like Harden, he could actually be an excellent offensive player. Too much chucking has hurt his stock. It's unfortunate because he's one of the most talented passers in the NBA right now.

[kuclas]

This

I would let him sit we’ll be a top 4 seed if he plays or not. Maxey and Thybulle can easily fill his numbers. Play hard ball and let the baby miss checks.

As much as I dislike Ben's game, we are not a 4 seed without him. The Hawks are going to build on their success, Nets and Bucks will continue to lead the conference, the Knicks and Bulls will have passed us. We need another playmaker on this team to keep pace.

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

The way future picks are traded, there is almost always trade protections. Likely top 5-8 protected. Call it the Billy King rule. If DLo, CJ, or even wiggins were expirings, plus picks, I could see us doing it. Cause if they don't work out, just move on and save on salary to try to sign someone else. But CLo, CJ, Wiggins aren't exactly cheap and have 2-3 years left.

Sixers are a top 3 seed if Embiid can play 70 or more games. That's a tall order unfortunately. Because he's never played 70 games. Simmons has at least this season managed to keep Sixers at .500 ball while Embiid has been out. I'm not sure those other guys can keep the Sixers at .500 with embed out multiple games. Thus they could end up with 5-6 seed depending how many games Embiid misses.

But you are right, the Sixers are a 2nd round exit with or without Simmons and healthy embiid. They could lose in the first round as well.

[Negrodamus]

As much as I dislike Ben's game, we are not a 4 seed without him. The Hawks are going to build on their success, Nets and Bucks will continue to lead the conference, the Knicks and Bulls will have passed us. We need another playmaker on this team to keep pace.

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

The way future picks are traded, there is almost always trade protections. Likely top 5-8 protected. Call it the Billy King rule. If DLo, CJ, or even wiggins were expirings, plus picks, I could see us doing it. Cause if they don't work out, just move on and save on salary to try to sign someone else. But CLo, CJ, Wiggins aren't exactly cheap and have 2-3 years left.

Sixers are a top 3 seed if Embiid can play 70 or more games. That's a tall order unfortunately. Because he's never played 70 games. Simmons has at least this season managed to keep Sixers at .500 ball while Embiid has been out. I'm not sure those other guys can keep the Sixers at .500 with embed out multiple games. Thus they could end up with 5-6 seed depending how many games Embiid misses.

But you are right, the Sixers are a 2nd round exit with or without Simmons and healthy embiid. They could lose in the first round as well.

Right, but the Wolves are trying to make their move to become a Western power. The draft picks don't matter if that's the goal and they have an opportunity to pair Ben and KAT together which might incentivize them to play out their careers together in Min. They remain the only team, in my mind, willing to overpay for Ben because of who he is as a player and his influence with their already established star. It's hard to keep people in Minnesota.

Morey's asking price is ridiculous and I'm not anticipating any top 20 players becoming available before the trade deadline next year. That's a big risk to sit on Ben until that point.

[Mik317]

no way they just let him sit out. The PA won't allow that. Klutch won't. ANd the heat from it will be too hot for Harris and co.

[kuclas]

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

The way future picks are traded, there is almost always trade protections. Likely top 5-8 protected. Call it the Billy King rule. If DLo, CJ, or even wiggins were expirings, plus picks, I could see us doing it. Cause if they don't work out, just move on and save on salary to try to sign someone else. But CLo, CJ, Wiggins aren't exactly cheap and have 2-3 years left.

Sixers are a top 3 seed if Embiid can play 70 or more games. That's a tall order unfortunately. Because he's never played 70 games. Simmons has at least this season managed to keep Sixers at .500 ball while Embiid has been out. I'm not sure those other guys can keep the Sixers at .500 with embed out multiple games. Thus they could end up with 5-6 seed depending how many games Embiid misses.

But you are right, the Sixers are a 2nd round exit with or without Simmons and healthy embiid. They could lose in the first round as well.

Right, but the Wolves are trying to make their move to become a Western power. The draft picks don't matter if that's the goal and they have an opportunity to pair Ben and KAT together which might incentivize them to play out their careers together in Min. They remain the only team, in my mind, willing to overpay for Ben because of who he is as a player and his influence with their already established star. It's hard to keep people in Minnesota.

Morey's asking price is ridiculous and I'm not anticipating any top 20 players becoming available before the trade deadline next year. That's a big risk to sit on Ben until that point.

Morey isn't even asking for a top 20 player. He's asking for a top 35-40 player plus picks. When teams don't want to even give up a Fox that's a huge problem. fox is a top 40-50 NBA player. A guy who's chucks up 20 shots a game to make 25 points on a a poor defensive team and shoots only 31-32% from 3 point land isn't that great.

People see the mental lapse from Simmons in the playoffs and forget all the good things he does in the regular season. He's 6 foot 10 and super fast mobile and handles the ball well. Plays elite defense. If Simmons really wanted to push the issue he could average 25/8/8 on 20 shots without a jump shot due to his sheer size and speed advantage in transition.

We don't know how guys like Fox do in the playoffs. Even guys like Beal who score, their team is actually better with them sitting on the bench. Scoring isn't everything.

But I agree KAT is the perfect fit with Simmons. Timberwolves aren't willing to let go of anything Sixers want. That's why no trade has been done.

[Iverson Armband]

The way future picks are traded, there is almost always trade protections. Likely top 5-8 protected. Call it the Billy King rule. If DLo, CJ, or even wiggins were expirings, plus picks, I could see us doing it. Cause if they don't work out, just move on and save on salary to try to sign someone else. But CLo, CJ, Wiggins aren't exactly cheap and have 2-3 years left.

Sixers are a top 3 seed if Embiid can play 70 or more games. That's a tall order unfortunately. Because he's never played 70 games. Simmons has at least this season managed to keep Sixers at .500 ball while Embiid has been out. I'm not sure those other guys can keep the Sixers at .500 with embed out multiple games. Thus they could end up with 5-6 seed depending how many games Embiid misses.

But you are right, the Sixers are a 2nd round exit with or without Simmons and healthy embiid. They could lose in the first round as well.

Right, but the Wolves are trying to make their move to become a Western power. The draft picks don't matter if that's the goal and they have an opportunity to pair Ben and KAT together which might incentivize them to play out their careers together in Min. They remain the only team, in my mind, willing to overpay for Ben because of who he is as a player and his influence with their already established star. It's hard to keep people in Minnesota.

Morey's asking price is ridiculous and I'm not anticipating any top 20 players becoming available before the trade deadline next year. That's a big risk to sit on Ben until that point.

Morey isn't even asking for a top 20 player. He's asking for a top 35-40 player plus picks. When teams don't want to even give up a Fox that's a huge problem. fox is a top 40-50 NBA player. A guy who's chucks up 20 shots a game to make 25 points on a a poor defensive team and shoots only 31-32% from 3 point land isn't that great.

People see the mental lapse from Simmons in the playoffs and forget all the good things he does in the regular season. He's 6 foot 10 and super fast mobile and handles the ball well. Plays elite defense. If Simmons really wanted to push the issue he could average 25/8/8 on 20 shots without a jump shot due to his sheer size and speed advantage in transition.

We don't know how guys like Fox do in the playoffs. Even guys like Beal who score, their team is actually better with them sitting on the bench. Scoring isn't everything.

But I agree KAT is the perfect fit with Simmons. Timberwolves aren't willing to let go of anything Sixers want. That's why no trade has been done.

Your evaluation of Ben Simmons at this point is delusional.

[Mik317]

the key is that no one can do it alone in the playoffs. However and for whatever reason Ben has not shown up at all in some series (and before the Ben bois attack.,..so has Tobias and so has Embiid)....so like even his defense is simply not enough. The idea is that adding a scorer especially one that score in a different manner...and hopefully from the 3pt line ALONGSIDE Embiid's post scoring and mid range will be enough to offset the moments in which either Embiid is off/tired or the scorer is being focused down. As is, generally when Embiid is off/tire/making dumb ass passes...the team implodes and there is no one else to pick up the slack because going to Tobias is just a worse version of going to Embiid (and Embiid as a decoy is fine because Tobias is terrible passer and Embiid while better from 3 is a lot better than anywhere else for the defense)....so it magnifies Ben lack of aggression more...

That is why the team has lost the last few playoffs really. The best run was of course with Jimmy..and thats because he gave the offense another way of attacking as Embiid was in his feelings due to Gasol...it took Kawhii hitting a gdlk shot to lose that time but also again the bench being ass and still not having enough firepower to keep up in the moments Jimmy and Embiid had to sit or just didn't have it. This is not a dig at Embiid...or Ben really. But each of the past champs had various methods to beat you on offense. The Bucks have Giannis throw himself at the rim but also Middleton hitting Jordan shots lol and low key Jrue setting others up. Prior Giannis' throw himself at the rim tactics didn't work because teams would just build a wall and thats that. Middelton leveled up and while he shot like ****, Jrue allowed them to use Giannis more as a roll man..and thus success (The Suns not having a back up big after Dario went down also hurt because Giannis was able to feast and the build a wall strat didn't work as well). The Lakers, Bubble frauds as they were lol, had Bron ball, AD lobs, and space and pace. The Warriors were a cheat code with KD lol. The Cavs team had Bron ball and Kyrie isos. We have throw the ball into the post and hope our guy hits tough shots. Our other option is fastbreak..which is schemed out in the playoffs due to simply having more time to scout it out. And to Ben's credit, even if he could drive and kick....our shooters are still a bit too gun shy outside of Danny and Furk.

Team simply needs to be able zig when the other team zags and due to past mistakes, trading Ben is the last remaining tool to get that even if its a few trades down the line. No one wants Tobias on that contract. Can't bring Ben back into this city now..that bridge is burnt..but even if it wasn't, just living off the idea Ben's upside has passed. His defense is great. But Trae still put up numbers on him...just like Kawhii. His passing is awesome and dudes like Danny, Seth and Kork must be sweating right now lol...but this current team simply needs to try something new. Its very similar to letting Brett go IMO. I don't think Brett was as bad as some acted (lowkey might be better than Doc.....) but it was time to try something new. Its that time again. I want to see what Embiid is like with a point guard that can dribble and shoot. It may end up the same or even worse but we gotta try it while we can IMO. And if that doesn't work...then guess what it will be sadly time for Embiid too. Thats is simply where we are at now. The past mistakes have caught up and we are in the endgame now.

[Arsenal]

This

I would let him sit we’ll be a top 4 seed if he plays or not. Maxey and Thybulle can easily fill his numbers. Play hard ball and let the baby miss checks.

As much as I dislike Ben's game, we are not a 4 seed without him. The Hawks are going to build on their success, Nets and Bucks will continue to lead the conference, the Knicks and Bulls will have passed us. We need another playmaker on this team to keep pace.

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

Rich Paul *can't* refuse to have any of his clients sign here. He has a fiduciary duty as an agent to bring *all offers* to his clients, including offers from the 76ers. He is in legal trouble because of his dereliction of said duty.

So it is nothing but an empty bluff from an agent who uses the media to get his way. Morey needs to stand strong and call the bluff...

[76ciology]

Read on Twitter

So…

What can we get for Embiid?

[kuclas]

Right, but the Wolves are trying to make their move to become a Western power. The draft picks don't matter if that's the goal and they have an opportunity to pair Ben and KAT together which might incentivize them to play out their careers together in Min. They remain the only team, in my mind, willing to overpay for Ben because of who he is as a player and his influence with their already established star. It's hard to keep people in Minnesota.

Morey's asking price is ridiculous and I'm not anticipating any top 20 players becoming available before the trade deadline next year. That's a big risk to sit on Ben until that point.

Morey isn't even asking for a top 20 player. He's asking for a top 35-40 player plus picks. When teams don't want to even give up a Fox that's a huge problem. fox is a top 40-50 NBA player. A guy who's chucks up 20 shots a game to make 25 points on a a poor defensive team and shoots only 31-32% from 3 point land isn't that great.

People see the mental lapse from Simmons in the playoffs and forget all the good things he does in the regular season. He's 6 foot 10 and super fast mobile and handles the ball well. Plays elite defense. If Simmons really wanted to push the issue he could average 25/8/8 on 20 shots without a jump shot due to his sheer size and speed advantage in transition.

We don't know how guys like Fox do in the playoffs. Even guys like Beal who score, their team is actually better with them sitting on the bench. Scoring isn't everything.

But I agree KAT is the perfect fit with Simmons. Timberwolves aren't willing to let go of anything Sixers want. That's why no trade has been done.

Your evaluation of Ben Simmons at this point is delusional.

How is my evaluation of Simmons delusional?

If it continues into the regular season. Sure. But we will see.

He had a mental lapse. But mental lapse.

[Arsenal]

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

The way future picks are traded, there is almost always trade protections. Likely top 5-8 protected. Call it the Billy King rule. If DLo, CJ, or even wiggins were expirings, plus picks, I could see us doing it. Cause if they don't work out, just move on and save on salary to try to sign someone else. But CLo, CJ, Wiggins aren't exactly cheap and have 2-3 years left.

Sixers are a top 3 seed if Embiid can play 70 or more games. That's a tall order unfortunately. Because he's never played 70 games. Simmons has at least this season managed to keep Sixers at .500 ball while Embiid has been out. I'm not sure those other guys can keep the Sixers at .500 with embed out multiple games. Thus they could end up with 5-6 seed depending how many games Embiid misses.

But you are right, the Sixers are a 2nd round exit with or without Simmons and healthy embiid. They could lose in the first round as well.

Right, but the Wolves are trying to make their move to become a Western power. The draft picks don't matter if that's the goal and they have an opportunity to pair Ben and KAT together which might incentivize them to play out their careers together in Min. They remain the only team, in my mind, willing to overpay for Ben because of who he is as a player and his influence with their already established star. It's hard to keep people in Minnesota.

Morey's asking price is ridiculous and I'm not anticipating any top 20 players becoming available before the trade deadline next year. That's a big risk to sit on Ben until that point.

It's very simple. If the T-Wolfs want to take the next step and get to the playoffs, they need to trade Anthony Edwards for Simmons.

Edwards doesn't fit the timeline anyway. The obvious goal is to combine Simmons with his boys KAT and D'Lo where they are a great complementary fit and close to the same age.

Anthony Edwards doesn't fit the "win now" equation for them.

[76ciology]

So we got this guy to replace Ben?

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

[the_process]

As much as I dislike Ben's game, we are not a 4 seed without him. The Hawks are going to build on their success, Nets and Bucks will continue to lead the conference, the Knicks and Bulls will have passed us. We need another playmaker on this team to keep pace.

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

The way future picks are traded, there is almost always trade protections. Likely top 5-8 protected. Call it the Billy King rule. If DLo, CJ, or even wiggins were expirings, plus picks, I could see us doing it. Cause if they don't work out, just move on and save on salary to try to sign someone else. But CLo, CJ, Wiggins aren't exactly cheap and have 2-3 years left.

Sixers are a top 3 seed if Embiid can play 70 or more games. That's a tall order unfortunately. Because he's never played 70 games. Simmons has at least this season managed to keep Sixers at .500 ball while Embiid has been out. I'm not sure those other guys can keep the Sixers at .500 with embed out multiple games. Thus they could end up with 5-6 seed depending how many games Embiid misses.

But you are right, the Sixers are a 2nd round exit with or without Simmons and healthy embiid. They could lose in the first round as well.

Well the idea is Minny is going to give the whole ball of wax, right? 4 picks and 3 swaps? So two of those are unprotected, one is top 4 protected, and the other is lotto protected. Then obviously no restrictions on the swaps. They can't be giving up garbage and expect protection on every pick.

[Sportfan73]

If they start fining Ben for not showing up, Rich Paul really will refuse to have any of his clients sign here. Does that mean Maxey asks out or gets a new agent? TBD. He will definitely have to choose one or the other.

Now I don't think running it back is viable for this team to win anything, so being a 3 seed with Ben or a 6 seed without is really no difference. They aren't getting out of the 2nd round either way. But if Ben isn't playing his value is not going up. Morey has to give up on Lillard or any star for right now and take as many unprotected picks as he can get. Whether that is Sacto or Minny or the Spurs. Or someone else.

The way future picks are traded, there is almost always trade protections. Likely top 5-8 protected. Call it the Billy King rule. If DLo, CJ, or even wiggins were expirings, plus picks, I could see us doing it. Cause if they don't work out, just move on and save on salary to try to sign someone else. But CLo, CJ, Wiggins aren't exactly cheap and have 2-3 years left.

Sixers are a top 3 seed if Embiid can play 70 or more games. That's a tall order unfortunately. Because he's never played 70 games. Simmons has at least this season managed to keep Sixers at .500 ball while Embiid has been out. I'm not sure those other guys can keep the Sixers at .500 with embed out multiple games. Thus they could end up with 5-6 seed depending how many games Embiid misses.

But you are right, the Sixers are a 2nd round exit with or without Simmons and healthy embiid. They could lose in the first round as well.

Well the idea is Minny is going to give the whole ball of wax, right? 4 picks and 3 swaps? So two of those are unprotected, one is top 4 protected, and the other is lotto protected. Then obviously no restrictions on the swaps. They can't be giving up garbage and expect protection on every pick.

JUST picks is starting to become a little to terrifying for me. I know Morey is good but I would rather get 2 picks and 2 swaps or even like a pick and 3 swaps then turn 2 other picks into a guy like sexton who we take a shot on being a break out guy

[rzzzzz]

Read on Twitter

So…

What can we get for Embiid?

Ben highlight reels are great until you get to the playoffs. Better he study the lesson Crash Davis gives Nuke LaRouche about public relations. Or better yet, look how Embiid handles it. Philly fans are not that tough on guys who know the bare min PR. (I’ll grant you we have yet to see Embiid finish the playoffs with highlight reel material, though his stats are actually dumbfounding.)

[Negrodamus]

Read on Twitter

So…

What can we get for Embiid?

2020:

Watch on YouTube

2019:

Watch on YouTube

2018:

Watch on YouTube

2017:

Watch on YouTube

2015:

Watch on YouTube

I know, right?

As House of Highlights would say: League is not READY!