The Official Fire Doc Rivers Thread

[Negrodamus]

I’m still amazed at Paul Reeds defensive numbers last night in his limited minutes. It seems like the Knicks had to feel uneasy whenever passing or dribbling around him. Can’t say the same about Harrell.

When I looked it up last night, Reed had as many stocks in that game as Harrell has had all season. Reed is obviously raw but that’s something that a good coach should be able to help with. Instead he gets no consistent play time to learn.

Yea, Doc didn't come here to develop. He was probably promised the Celtics 2.0. The fact that Maxey has panned out is more of a testament of his hard work than Doc, imo.

[PhillyNj]

I’m officially on the fire Doc team.
#1 This team was not prepared to start the season.
#2 they have no idea how to play any sort of defense.
#3 Doc has no idea of how to use his personal!
Morey has to take a look at the Phillies and how changing the coach saved their season, before we are so far out it’s to late.

[sixers4real]

I’m 100% on the train of firing Doc.

1. Never let Doc use Kerr are an excuse of Warriors being 3-7. I imagine Doc saying some like “every NBA title coach has bad starts”, just F no. Not the case.
2. Never let Doc use Embiid and Harden injury as an excuse.
3. Let Sam Cassell or Dave Joerger run this team for 20 games. See how it works.

Please. I already know we are firing Doc anyway after another 2nd round exit in May 2023. Why not do it now? Have some balls, Morey (and Harris) do it!

[FlyingArrow]

The reasons to fire Rivers are so glaring.

* Blowing multiple 20+ point leads in the playoffs. That should have been enough right there.
* Leaving Embiid in during a game that was already decided... and Embiid breaks his face.
* Playing Harden (and the rest of the starting lineup) more minutes than is healthy or necessary... and Harden gets injured.

There are more, but those are enough, and those are the hardest to argue with.

[youngcrev]

I don't think Doc is a bad coach. He's clearly highly respected in the industry by both players and other coaches. I just think you need more of a forward thinker. Someone that's going to vibe with Morey and find creative ways to optimize our main pieces, while being willing to make changes to the rotation and roster as necessary to get there. Doc likes safe. He's over reliant on his trusted vets and slow to make adjustments. The players probably like the consistency and having a well defined role, but I don't think you can play it safe with this roster and hope to compete for a title.

[Jailblazers7]

Doc was a good coach but the game has passed him by. At some point, it happens to everyone as the game evolves. It would be smart to accept that fact and make the hard choice to move on now.

The two red flags to me is that he seems oblivious to obvious rotation decisions and he has no coherent offensive scheme. The second is the major sin because we have elite offensive talent that would blossom under a good scheme. The complete lack of motion and action on offense stalls us out in key situations leading to awful shot quality. That is the one constant regardless if Harden & Embiid play or not, which we saw last night. That’s even how the 08 Celtics worked back in the day but Doc got bailed out by Pierce who was an elite shot maker who could get to his elbow jumper at will.

[MartinToVaught]

I’m still amazed at Paul Reeds defensive numbers last night in his limited minutes. It seems like the Knicks had to feel uneasy whenever passing or dribbling around him. Can’t say the same about Harrell.

As a Clippers fan, I winced a bit when I heard you guys got Trez, because I knew Doc was about to pull the same BS again that finally cost him his job in LA. And lo and behold, he's treating Reed the same way he treated Zubac (who's now flourishing without Doc). It's amazing how Doc never learns from a single mistake. It's always bad luck or everyone else's fault.

[SixthStreet]

The thing about Rivers is that his legacy as a coach is mostly tied to his longevity. He is currently 9th all time in wins for a coach and he has a pretty realistic path to number 5 if he can hang onto this job and bank in the range of 150 wins this plus the next two seasons.

He's never going to rank with the best coaches in championships so he's going to run his stars into the ground in service of his legacy and at the expense of championship odds.

F that. Fire this bum now, Morey.

[Jhawk03]

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Same energy

[MVP1992]

Are we there yet?

[ProcessDoctor]

Seems like we're delaying the inevitable here. Just fire him and move forward with Cassell for the rest of the season.

[mjkvol]

He should never have survived last year's inevitable 2nd round exit, by far Morey's biggest off season blunder.

This is the only thread I'll be following and contributing to until this clown is finally gone and we can see how good this group can be with a coach versed in how the game is played in the 21st century.

[Sixersftw]

God, I guess I have to eventually turn back to this crap with every other sport but the Birds is over with. The product is unwatchable with this guy at the helm.

There hasn't been one innovative play or (positive) highlight that you could attribute to the coach in the eternity that he's been here. Scheme is trash on both sides of the ball and the rotations are always guided by favoritism masked with faulty logic. I'm just over it

[MVP1992]

Would these coach contracts have any competency or results based clause enabling the team to fire Rivers based on poor performance and not be liable to pay out the remainder of his tenure?

Just watched a few post game interviews and he seems totally oblivious and takes no credit for anything negative.
Lacking in accountability? Self awareness? Honesty?

His excuses for each loss are simpleton garbage.

[Jailblazers7]

I would love to see one of the assistants take over. The one thing I’ll give Doc credit for is that he’s built a great staff.

But if we do end up with MDA, I can see the logic. The Embiid/Harden PnR is the foundation for an elite offense and MDA is probably the premier coach at maximizing the PnR.

[mjkvol]

Would these coach contracts have any competency or results based clause enabling the team to fire Rivers based on poor performance and not be liable to pay out the remainder of his tenure?

Just watched a few post game interviews and he seems totally oblivious and takes no credit for anything negative.
Lacking in accountability? Self awareness? Honesty?

His excuses for each loss are simpleton garbage.

Just pay him and get him the f***k out of here. Enough already.

[MVP1992]

Would these coach contracts have any competency or results based clause enabling the team to fire Rivers based on poor performance and not be liable to pay out the remainder of his tenure?

Just watched a few post game interviews and he seems totally oblivious and takes no credit for anything negative.
Lacking in accountability? Self awareness? Honesty?

His excuses for each loss are simpleton garbage.

Just pay him and get him the f***k out of here. Enough already.

I'll sign the cheque, you pack his bags.

[Zumramania]

I would love to see one of the assistants take over. The one thing I’ll give Doc credit for is that he’s built a great staff.

But if we do end up with MDA, I can see the logic. The Embiid/Harden PnR is the foundation for an elite offense and MDA is probably the premier coach at maximizing the PnR.

Yes, but I think our assistants would be more flexible and more creative, which is very needed with this roster. MDA is old and hasn't won anything until now. I've never heard in any sports of a coach who won their first title at the age of 70+.

[mjkvol]

God, I guess I have to eventually turn back to this crap with every other sport but the Birds is over with. The product is unwatchable with this guy at the helm.

There hasn't been one innovative play or (positive) highlight that you could attribute to the coach in the eternity that he's been here. Scheme is trash on both sides of the ball and the rotations are always guided by favoritism masked with faulty logic. I'm just over it

Follow the Stanford lead like I am and boycott watching until we're finally relieved of his presence.

[Sixersftw]

God, I guess I have to eventually turn back to this crap with every other sport but the Birds is over with. The product is unwatchable with this guy at the helm.

There hasn't been one innovative play or (positive) highlight that you could attribute to the coach in the eternity that he's been here. Scheme is trash on both sides of the ball and the rotations are always guided by favoritism masked with faulty logic. I'm just over it

Follow the Stanford lead like I am and boycott watching until we're finally relieved of his presence.

I am. It's crazy, before Rivers got here I missed like 25 games in 15 **** years. Now i just watch Maxey highlights.