Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

[ProcessDoctor]

I wonder if this could all mean Butler, too. Meh.

We haven’t heard about Miami pursuing anyone, which is strange.

[Stanford]

I wonder if this could all mean Butler, too. Meh.

We haven’t heard about Miami pursuing anyone, which is strange.

Good front offices work in secret.

[Sixersftw]

Was there a real Harden rumor or are we just generally spiraling?

[PhillyFan11]

Trade ‘26 1st for Bogdan Bogdanovic
Trade Paul Reed +’27 2nd for John Collins
Sign 1 of Miles Bridges or DeMar DeRozan for 3/35M per
Keep Oubre with MLE
Vet mins: Lowry, Batum and best available C

Maxey
Bogdanovic
Bridges/DeRozan
Collins
Embiid
Bench: Oubre, 16th pick, Batum, Lowry, C

That’s a pretty deep/well balanced team without doing anything drastic. Worst case scenario at the deadline you can trade Bogdanovic + Collins + ‘28 & ‘30 picks to get the final piece if need be.

[eyeatoma]

Was there a real Harden rumor or are we just generally spiraling?

The Hoop Collective spitballed the possibility.

[FireMorey]

Harden makes no sense. They could have just signed him last year but didn’t. That’s what made him mad. So to turn around and give him that money this year and think he’d come here when he hates Morey now? None of that makes any sense. And if it happened it would mean that Morey just forfeited a year of Embiid’s career for nothing.

[Iscull]

Was there a real Harden rumor or are we just generally spiraling?

I think Simmons and/or Russillo were talking about it. Would be hilarious for him to return after getting all the draft capital.

I do not believe it's going to happen. If we strike out on all other options, it's more likely Morey keeps flexibility and signs a handful of guys to 1-2 year deals.

[Iscull]

Could we get Bogdan Bogdanovic for our 16th overall next week? Maybe we throw in some future 2nds?

[sammorey]

I wonder if this could all mean Butler, too. Meh.

We haven’t heard about Miami pursuing anyone, which is strange.

Miami has a lot of incentive to trade Butler.

They can open up a ton of space next summer with Bam still having one year left on his discounted annual salary. Plus, JJJ still on his rookie deal.

I think we end up trading our 1st this year and our two firsts we acquired from LAC for Butler and we extend him for an additional year at the max.

People will freak out but I don't see many options left. We are out of the PG race according to Shams, Lebron isn't leaving the Lakers, and the Knicks have to find a way to keep OG.

I want nothing to do with Demar Derozan or Brandon Ingram.

[FireMorey]

Windy said if PG is going to go elsewhere it's likely he opts in and does a sign and trade.

If the Sixers interest has waned and it's not posturing, that's probably why. One advantage to getting PG is not having to give up picks to do it. I don't think it would cost much though. Opt ins and trades usually don't.

[Iscull]

Windy said if PG is going to go elsewhere it's likely he opts in and does a sign and trade.

If the Sixers interest has waned and it's not posturing, that's probably why. One advantage to getting PG is not having to give up picks to do it. I don't think it would cost much though. Opt ins and trades usually don't.

100%

I think it would be a total waste to trade assets for him. He's 35 and has maybe 1-2 decent years left.

While I also don't want to trade for Ingram, he'd be cheaper (Pelicans are actively shopping) and is only 26. Seperately, we could probably get Lavine for cheap (Again wouldn't want to trade, but better than PG).

Does anyone think it's possible that we don't go after a "3rd Star" and instead try to get 2-3 starter quality players? I.E. instead of paying PG, Ingram, etc. $50MM - we could get Bogdanavic, Collins, etc. We also wouldn't have to commit to resigning them, giving us cap flexibility for 2025/2026.

[Negrodamus]

Was there a real Harden rumor or are we just generally spiraling?

We missed on Caruso, so some are resigned to us doing nothing this off-season.

[AI_Efficiency]

Windy said if PG is going to go elsewhere it's likely he opts in and does a sign and trade.

If the Sixers interest has waned and it's not posturing, that's probably why. One advantage to getting PG is not having to give up picks to do it. I don't think it would cost much though. Opt ins and trades usually don't.

100%

I think it would be a total waste to trade assets for him. He's 35 and has maybe 1-2 decent years left.

While I also don't want to trade for Ingram, he'd be cheaper (Pelicans are actively shopping) and is only 26. Seperately, we could probably get Lavine for cheap (Again wouldn't want to trade, but better than PG).

Does anyone think it's possible that we don't go after a "3rd Star" and instead try to get 2-3 starter quality players? I.E. instead of paying PG, Ingram, etc. $50MM - we could get Bogdanavic, Collins, etc. We also wouldn't have to commit to resigning them, giving us cap flexibility for 2025/2026.

Yea, when I watched Morey's press conference my read was that plan A was to try and sign a star, but if we can't, plan B is to sign some good players to shorter term contracts to maintain flexibility to then potentially use their salary in a trade down the road if / when another star becomes available.

[Iscull]

Windy said if PG is going to go elsewhere it's likely he opts in and does a sign and trade.

If the Sixers interest has waned and it's not posturing, that's probably why. One advantage to getting PG is not having to give up picks to do it. I don't think it would cost much though. Opt ins and trades usually don't.

100%

I think it would be a total waste to trade assets for him. He's 35 and has maybe 1-2 decent years left.

While I also don't want to trade for Ingram, he'd be cheaper (Pelicans are actively shopping) and is only 26. Seperately, we could probably get Lavine for cheap (Again wouldn't want to trade, but better than PG).

Does anyone think it's possible that we don't go after a "3rd Star" and instead try to get 2-3 starter quality players? I.E. instead of paying PG, Ingram, etc. $50MM - we could get Bogdanavic, Collins, etc. We also wouldn't have to commit to resigning them, giving us cap flexibility for 2025/2026.

Yea, when I watched Morey's press conference my read was that plan A was to try and sign a star, but if we can't, plan B is to sign some good players to shorter term contracts to maintain flexibility to then potentially use their salary in a trade down the road if / when another star becomes available.

If our options are overpaying for Buter, Ingram, or Bridges - it's probably better to sign/trade for starter quality players. I know our window is small for Embiid, but I don't think bringing on any of those guys really moves the needle.

[PhillyFan11]

I wonder if this could all mean Butler, too. Meh.

We haven’t heard about Miami pursuing anyone, which is strange.

Miami has a lot of incentive to trade Butler.

They can open up a ton of space next summer with Bam still having one year left on his discounted annual salary. Plus, JJJ still on his rookie deal.

I think we end up trading our 1st this year and our two firsts we acquired from LAC for Butler and we extend him for an additional year at the max.

People will freak out but I don't see many options left. We are out of the PG race according to Shams, Lebron isn't leaving the Lakers, and the Knicks have to find a way to keep OG.

I want nothing to do with Demar Derozan or Brandon Ingram.

Better get on your knees a pray you win a title with Jimmy in the next 2 years then. If we give up that much to get him and give him a max contract you’ve pretty much given up all hope of being a competitive team from ‘27-to at least ‘30. That’s a sure fire way to ruin any hope of sustained success

[FireMorey]

They will never have as much cap room as they do this year after Maxey is signed, so kicking the can down the road while not a complete disaster of a route, is still not a great one. Because then they'll be in the boat of just trying to improve via trades again. And also you'll be wasting another year of Embiid's prime, which is wholly unacceptable.

If Morey strikes out on every front this summer, he has to go. There is no legitimate argument to keep him around. Any failed GM in sports can use the "We tried, Player X just didn't want to sign here" excuse. Or "We tried, Team X didn't want to trade with us" excuse. You have to be judged on the moves you did do. Those are all that matter. A lot of failed GMs who didn't do jack I'm sure tried to make moves.

Hey, maybe if Morey's previous moves worked out better, they'd be a more attractive destination for stars.

[Iscull]

Throwing out a potential trade scenario:

Would you rather get Bogan Bogdanavic + Clint Capela or Zach Lavine? Both trades are around the same salary. I think I'd lean towards the Hawks trade.

[eyeatoma]

Throwing out a potential trade scenario:

Would you rather get Bogan Bogdanavic + Clint Capela or Zach Lavine? Both trades are around the same salary. I think I'd lean towards the Hawks trade.

I'd love to add Murray to that trade, or even swap Bogan, even though I really like him.

If we do that, I'd have wanted someone else like Monk to up the scoring, but that ship has sailed. Klay would also work.

[ProcessDoctor]

Howard Beck saying Jimmy Butler will get traded.

I unfortunately don't think Oubre or Kyle Anderson are good fits if we go this route. I think you spend the remaining $15 mil on KCP (pray he accepts) and then use the room exception on Jalen Smith. Round out the roster with old vets. Maybe you can talk Delon Wright into a vet min as well.


Maxey/Lowry
KCP/Council
Butler/Batum
Smith/Saric
Embiid/Drummond


Old and slow as **** but I don't see many better options if we trade #16 and $50 mil cap space for Jimmy. Our half-court offense would be awesome, but I could see young, fast teams like Indy/NYK giving us problems.

[GoSixersBro]

I wonder if this could all mean Butler, too. Meh.

We haven’t heard about Miami pursuing anyone, which is strange.

Miami has a lot of incentive to trade Butler.

They can open up a ton of space next summer with Bam still having one year left on his discounted annual salary. Plus, JJJ still on his rookie deal.

I think we end up trading our 1st this year and our two firsts we acquired from LAC for Butler and we extend him for an additional year at the max.

People will freak out but I don't see many options left. We are out of the PG race according to Shams, Lebron isn't leaving the Lakers, and the Knicks have to find a way to keep OG.

I want nothing to do with Demar Derozan or Brandon Ingram.

I think this is Daryl's account and he's telling us exactly what is going to happen.