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I'm sticking with my Malik Monk but with better defense comparison of VJ Edgecombe. I think Monk has more gunner tendencies but they feel like similar players when I watch them. Not primary ballhandlers. Insane athletes.
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76ciology wrote:Negrodamus wrote:Josh also shot 56% from FT with a goofy ass jumper. I'd consider him in the late lottery, but for those shooting reasons alone, I was completely out.
Yeah, this one though. While Tatum was like a 40% 3pt shooter in his rookie year.
Considering that in college Tatum shot .849 while Jackson shot .566 FT% while being one year older, it was a total no-brainer that Tatum was the better prospect.
"Athletes" who can't shoot are worthless in the modern NBA.
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Arsenal wrote:76ciology wrote:Negrodamus wrote:Josh also shot 56% from FT with a goofy ass jumper. I'd consider him in the late lottery, but for those shooting reasons alone, I was completely out.
Yeah, this one though. While Tatum was like a 40% 3pt shooter in his rookie year.
Considering that in college Tatum shot .849 while Jackson shot .566 FT% while being one year older, it was a total no-brainer that Tatum was the better prospect.
"Athletes" who can't shoot are worthless in the modern NBA.
Except for Amen Thompson, he burned me for selling low.
Can’t shoot and masked a lot of his flaws in the G League. That’s exactly the kind of prospect I usually like to short.
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Any thoughts on Kasparas?
His stock has dropped, he’s down to 11th on Tankathon. I read he struggled against stronger competition and didn’t close out his college season well. But looking at his full regular season, his scoring and assist numbers are still solid.
His playstyle, with clear Luka influences, feels very translatable to the NBA.
His stock has dropped, he’s down to 11th on Tankathon. I read he struggled against stronger competition and didn’t close out his college season well. But looking at his full regular season, his scoring and assist numbers are still solid.
His playstyle, with clear Luka influences, feels very translatable to the NBA.
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Fine with trading down below #10 for KJ. In the top 6? No thanks.
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Arsenal wrote:Fine with trading down below #10 for KJ. In the top 6? No thanks.
I’d be fine taking him in the top 6. I don’t see Kneuppel or Fears as better prospects than him.
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another guard sized guy with defensive concerns who imo aren't better than our current guard sized guys with defensive concerns.
I am always mr BPA but unless that BPA has outlier traits, stacking a skillset like that feels counterproductive...and again IMO Maxey;s off ball skill and McCain's relocation skills are those outlier traits. VJ's athleticism MIGHT be that too mind you but eh.
It really does depend on where we fall of course.
I am always mr BPA but unless that BPA has outlier traits, stacking a skillset like that feels counterproductive...and again IMO Maxey;s off ball skill and McCain's relocation skills are those outlier traits. VJ's athleticism MIGHT be that too mind you but eh.
It really does depend on where we fall of course.
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76ciology wrote:Arsenal wrote:Fine with trading down below #10 for KJ. In the top 6? No thanks.
I’d be fine taking him in the top 6. I don’t see Kneuppel or Fears as better prospects than him.
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He would be a fine grab at 8 if they trade down with SA.
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ProcessDoctor wrote:ivysixer2000 wrote:I just pray we get the #4 pick or above, cause after that it seems to be very cloudy on who to pick later than that.
Who are your clear top 4?
I would say Flagg, Harper, VJ, and Bailey.
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76ciology wrote:Any thoughts on Kasparas?
His stock has dropped, he’s down to 11th on Tankathon. I read he struggled against stronger competition and didn’t close out his college season well. But looking at his full regular season, his scoring and assist numbers are still solid.
His playstyle, with clear Luka influences, feels very translatable to the NBA.
I still like him precisely because of your last comment, that his game just looks like one that can translate if he lands in the right spot. Maybe not a top six guy because the upside might not be high enough, but get him in a good system and he could be a solid rotation piece or more. I'd still pick him at #6 over some of the other guys being mentioned.
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Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Johnson
After that I can be talked in to anyone at #5 or #6
After that I can be talked in to anyone at #5 or #6
always a jump shot away.
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I think Harper is overrated and unnecessary since you have Maxey and McCain. So if you luck out and get a top 4 pick, any of the other three (Flagg, Bailey, Johnson) would fill a major need. There's a very steep drop off imo after pick 4. Each of the guys being mocked in that range have glaring weaknesses and/or don't fit a need (VJ, Kon, Maluach, Fears, Queen) so would be a reach to take there. There's a few teams with multiple first round picks (MIA, BK, SA) that might be interested in moving up and if possible that's the route I'd go. You could then land a couple long defenders which is what you need and that would allow you to rest George and surround your small backcourt with defense. Guys like Murray-Boyles, Fleming, Essengue or even a couple bigs like Wolf or Goldin who along with Bona can keep Embiid fresh.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:I think Harper is overrated and unnecessary since you have Maxey and McCain. So if you luck out and get a top 4 pick, any of the other three (Flagg, Bailey, Johnson) would fill a major need. There's a very steep drop off imo after pick 4. Each of the guys being mocked in that range have glaring weaknesses and/or don't fit a need (VJ, Kon, Maluach, Fears, Queen) so would be a reach to take there. There's a few teams with multiple first round picks (MIA, BK, SA) that might be interested in moving up and if possible that's the route I'd go. You could then land a couple long defenders which is what you need and that would allow you to rest George and surround your small backcourt with defense. Guys like Murray-Boyles, Fleming, Essengue or even a couple bigs like Wolf or Goldin who along with Bona can keep Embiid fresh.
How would you rank Harper, Maxey, and McCain? Do you think the gap between Harper and Maxey, and between Harper and McCain, is minimal?
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I don’t watch college ball, but from my reading it seems like the consensus top 4 are generally Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, and Bailey. And it seems like Newell, Maluach, Jakucionis, and Murray-Boyles might be reaches, or a little unlikely for us at 5 or 6. Fears is another 6’3 guard. It seems like the most likely selection at 5 or 6 would be Knueppel, Johnson, Queen, or maybe Bailey or Edgecombe slips. I guess I would start my YouTube scouting with those five guys.
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mjkvol wrote:76ciology wrote:Any thoughts on Kasparas?
His stock has dropped, he’s down to 11th on Tankathon. I read he struggled against stronger competition and didn’t close out his college season well. But looking at his full regular season, his scoring and assist numbers are still solid.
His playstyle, with clear Luka influences, feels very translatable to the NBA.
I still like him precisely because of your last comment, that his game just looks like one that can translate if he lands in the right spot. Maybe not a top six guy because the upside might not be high enough, but get him in a good system and he could be a solid rotation piece or more. I'd still pick him at #6 over some of the other guys being mentioned.
I think Kasparas has the offensive skill set of an star caliber NBA guard, isolation scoring, PnR, playmaking, and he pairs that with solid size and basketball IQ to offset his lack of elite athleticism on defense, similar to guys like Jokic and Luka.
I’m not even sure his ceiling is low, especially after watching Quentin Grimes excel for us, and I believe Kasparas can be even better. The only hesitation I have in drafting him is that he’s not quite good enough, in my opinion, to justify adding him to the guard group we already have.
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This YouTuber is back and he’s been doing a huge dump of these “every play” videos. Watching just port of the scoring sections and Edgecombe, Queen, and Fears really stand out to me (haven’t watched Cooper, but know he will too). If Edgecombe comes out to a similar height as Harper and is >6’4 in shoes, I’d strongly consider taking him.
Fears and Queen both have a bag where they are capable of hitting the defender with moves and countermoves. I also believe in their shots enough to know they’ll be big time scorers at the next level.
This YouTuber is back and he’s been doing a huge dump of these “every play” videos. Watching just port of the scoring sections and Edgecombe, Queen, and Fears really stand out to me (haven’t watched Cooper, but know he will too). If Edgecombe comes out to a similar height as Harper and is >6’4 in shoes, I’d strongly consider taking him.
Fears and Queen both have a bag where they are capable of hitting the defender with moves and countermoves. I also believe in their shots enough to know they’ll be big time scorers at the next level.
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Curious if Barcelona's Dame Sarr is going to declare. 6'6 SG who is probably looking at the draft board thinking he can jump a lot of these prospects into the lottery, possibly top 10.
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Someone mentioned Cooper is like a shooting version of Ben Simmons and I actually feel like that's an excellent comparison. They both have just OK touch around the rim. Cooper put about a billion times more effort into his one season at Duke than Ben at LSU. Both were their team's point forward. They both are incredibly agile and fast for their size but aren't really elite in vertical explosiveness. Defense is obviously nasty.
Someone mentioned Cooper is like a shooting version of Ben Simmons and I actually feel like that's an excellent comparison. They both have just OK touch around the rim. Cooper put about a billion times more effort into his one season at Duke than Ben at LSU. Both were their team's point forward. They both are incredibly agile and fast for their size but aren't really elite in vertical explosiveness. Defense is obviously nasty.
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Negrodamus wrote:;t=1309s
Someone mentioned Cooper is like a shooting version of Ben Simmons and I actually feel like that's an excellent comparison. They both have just OK touch around the rim. Cooper put about a billion times more effort into his one season at Duke than Ben at LSU. Both were their team's point forward. They both are incredibly agile and fast for their size but aren't really elite in vertical explosiveness. Defense is obviously nasty.
A good shooting Ben Simmons (pre-meltdown) is an MVP-caliber player. Hoping we get lucky...
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cooper's touched looked way better than ben's in the little I saw of him
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