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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#681 » by sixers4real » Wed May 22, 2019 3:19 pm

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Run it back plus Pat Beverley :lol:

We can afford Beverley only if Jimmy or/and Tobias walks.


If he costs more than the MLE (which he very well could with the depth of teams with money), I wouldn't want to be able to afford him.

After playing so well against GS this playoffs on defense, and teams having money this summer, he is getting 10+ M a year.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#682 » by youngcrev » Wed May 22, 2019 9:37 pm

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sixers4real wrote:We can afford Beverley only if Jimmy or/and Tobias walks.


If he costs more than the MLE (which he very well could with the depth of teams with money), I wouldn't want to be able to afford him.

After playing so well against GS this playoffs on defense, and teams having money this summer, he is getting 10+ M a year.


Probably. I guess a team like Utah or Dallas could go after him and offer that type of money.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#683 » by PhilasFinest » Wed May 22, 2019 11:49 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:Assuming we bring back the 3 starters, backup C is the biggest need by far. Zhaire and Shake should be able to contribute off the bench and add things we were missing on the wings last year, but we need a defensive rim protecter that can play 15-18 minutes. I dont know where you find that guy though.


Draft or a veteran min/exception signing.

If people think were getting someone that can essentially replace Embiid.....thats not gonna happen. Dude is a star big. Him not being on the floor will ALWAYS be felt in some capacity. He is simply too good on both ends of the floor.

Some possible realistic options via FA:
Robin Lopez
Taj Gibson (more of a 4, but a smart veteran big who can defend, board and make a few shots)
Ed Davis
Javale McGee (Can keep up with our pace, block shots, board & finish)
Dewayne Dedmon (likely out of our price range)
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Markieff Morris
Nerlens (If he opts out of his P/O)
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#684 » by Mik317 » Thu May 23, 2019 12:39 am

Nerlens would be great. I still belive in those 3 minutes he and Embiid played together lol.

Pretty sure than bridge is burnt tho.

But honestly all we need is for our backup big to protect the rim really. Offense and shooting would be nice but that is the most important thing. Boban, Monroe, and Scott all are terrible rim protectors and that was generally why teams went on stupid runs without Embiid on the floor.

Gafford is a guy in the draft from my minimal look but generally those guys aren't as easy to get as one may hope...also they will need to be willing to play 15 minutes a game or also able to play the 4...which also limits things a bit.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#685 » by 76ciology » Thu May 23, 2019 3:19 am

Im not familiar with CBA. But whats the most optimal sequence to play this FA game?

So FA starts with us having a max cap space right? Can we also explore signing guys like KD and Kawhi?

Then if ever we sign one of those guys, we can then sign 1-2 of jimmy or tobias even without cap space.

Im guessing Jimmy and Tobias wont sign until the top guys are signed.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#686 » by youngcrev » Thu May 23, 2019 3:32 am

76ciology wrote:Im not familiar with CBA. But whats the most optimal sequence to play this FA game?

So FA starts with us having a max cap space right? Can we also explore signing guys like KD and Kawhi?

Then if ever we sign one of those guys, we can then sign 1-2 of jimmy or tobias even without cap space.

Im guessing Jimmy and Tobias wont sign until the top guys are signed.


Jimmy and Tobias (and JJ) have fairly large cap holds until signed or renounced. Those cap holds amounts count against your cap space. To be able to sign a max guy not on the team, you'd have to renounce one of the two
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#687 » by 76ciology » Thu May 23, 2019 3:34 am

youngcrev wrote:
76ciology wrote:Im not familiar with CBA. But whats the most optimal sequence to play this FA game?

So FA starts with us having a max cap space right? Can we also explore signing guys like KD and Kawhi?

Then if ever we sign one of those guys, we can then sign 1-2 of jimmy or tobias even without cap space.

Im guessing Jimmy and Tobias wont sign until the top guys are signed.


Jimmy and Tobias (and JJ) have fairly large cap holds until signed or renounced. Those cap holds amounts count against your cap space. To be able to sign a max guy not on the team, you'd have to renounce one of the two


Oh.. man league is ruined by giving too much powers on these players.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#688 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu May 23, 2019 4:12 am

youngcrev wrote:
76ciology wrote:Im not familiar with CBA. But whats the most optimal sequence to play this FA game?

So FA starts with us having a max cap space right? Can we also explore signing guys like KD and Kawhi?

Then if ever we sign one of those guys, we can then sign 1-2 of jimmy or tobias even without cap space.

Im guessing Jimmy and Tobias wont sign until the top guys are signed.


Jimmy and Tobias (and JJ) have fairly large cap holds until signed or renounced. Those cap holds amounts count against your cap space. To be able to sign a max guy not on the team, you'd have to renounce one of the two


More specifically, to sign one max FA (i.e. Kawhi) we'd have to renounce Butler + JJ + Boban (and TJ, Furkan, Monroe, Amir).

To sign KD, we'd have to renounce the above + Mike Scott.

In both scenarios, we could retain the rights to Harris.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#689 » by youngcrev » Thu May 23, 2019 2:04 pm

How about Seth Curry as a bi-annual exception or splitting the MLE target?

The man can clearly shoot the rock, proved himself to be healthy after missing a year, and has put up pretty good stats the last 2 years he's played. He's got some combo guard skills, so if the plan going forward is to continue to have Ben and Jimmy run the team, he's be a nice fit as an off ball 1/secondary ball handler.

I've mainly been looking at guys that can guard the point of attack and shoot a bit like Beverly/CoJo/Bradley/KCP, but if the team feels confident in Zhaire to be that guy for them, Curry could fill a major role for them off the bench.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#690 » by Kobblehead » Thu May 23, 2019 7:17 pm

I'd take Seth Curry over retaining McConnell or signing Beverley.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#691 » by BullyKing » Thu May 23, 2019 10:39 pm

There is something wonky with Redick's salary on the capulator. For example, if you waive and stretch J. Simmons and renounce everyone but Butler, Redick and Scott, it shows us as $6 million over. But if you renounce Redick's $15 million cap hold, we're now somehow $24 million under the cap.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#692 » by youngcrev » Thu May 23, 2019 11:28 pm

BullyKing wrote:There is something wonky with Redick's salary on the capulator. For example, if you waive and stretch J. Simmons and renounce everyone but Butler, Redick and Scott, it shows us as $6 million over. But if you renounce Redick's $15 million cap hold, we're now somehow $24 million under the cap.


Mine has them 9.2 and then 24.2 for that scenario. You sure that's all you changed? Is it possible you didn't renounce the bi-annual until after or something?

Edit: it looks like when you renounce an exemption on there that it's not reflected in the cap space until you make another move for whatever reason
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#693 » by BullyKing » Thu May 23, 2019 11:56 pm

youngcrev wrote:
BullyKing wrote:There is something wonky mbRedick's salary on the capulator. For example, if you waive and stretch J. Simmons and renounce everyone but Butler, Redick and Scott, it shows us as $6 million over. But if you renounce Redick's $15 million cap hold, we're now somehow $24 million under the cap.


Mine has them 9.2 and then 24.2 for that scenario. You sure that's all you changed? Is it possible you didn't renounce the bi-annual until after or something?

Edit: it looks like when you renounce an exemption on there that it's not reflected in the cap space until you make another move for whatever reason


I've been messing around with it and just doing some manual calculations and it looks like we're in much better space under the apron than I thought.

Embiid (27.5), Harris (32.4), Butler (32.4), Simmons (8.1), MLE (9.2), BAE (3.6), 1st (2.2) and Bolden (1.7) equals 117.1 million for eight players. Let's assume you can get Redick and Scott for a combined 13 million and now we're at 130 million with 10 spots taken. So we've got 7 million below the apron to fill 5 spots. If you pay the two early 2nds a million each now we're at 5 million with 3 spots to fill. You could fill them with two minimum vets and one minimum veteran and come in under the apron.

1. Butler (32.4)
2. Harris (32.4)
3. Embiid (27.5)
4. MLE (9.2)
5. Simmons (8.1)
6. BAE (3.6)
7. 1st round pick (2.2)
8. Bolden (1.7)
9. Redick (9)
10. Scott (4)
11. #33 (1)
12. #34 (1)
13. Vet. min. (1.6)
14. Vet min. (1.6)
15. Rookie min. (Shake Milton?) (.9)

That leaves us at 136.2 and if Bolden overtakes Scott, we'd be dumping Scott and one of the veteran minimums at the deadline away from ducking the tax altogether.

All of this assumes we dump Simmons' 1 mil guarantee.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#694 » by PhillyPhilly » Fri May 24, 2019 12:06 am

BullyKing wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
BullyKing wrote:There is something wonky mbRedick's salary on the capulator. For example, if you waive and stretch J. Simmons and renounce everyone but Butler, Redick and Scott, it shows us as $6 million over. But if you renounce Redick's $15 million cap hold, we're now somehow $24 million under the cap.


Mine has them 9.2 and then 24.2 for that scenario. You sure that's all you changed? Is it possible you didn't renounce the bi-annual until after or something?

Edit: it looks like when you renounce an exemption on there that it's not reflected in the cap space until you make another move for whatever reason


I've been messing around with it and just doing some manual calculations and it looks like we're in much better space under the apron than I thought.

Embiid (27.5), Harris (32.4), Butler (32.4), Simmons (8.1), MLE (9.2), BAE (3.6), 1st (2.2) and Bolden (1.7) equals 117.1 million for eight players. Let's assume you can get Redick and Scott for a combined 13 million and now we're at 130 million with 10 spots taken. So we've got 7 million below the apron to fill 5 spots. If you pay the two early 2nds a million each now we're at 5 million with 3 spots to fill. You could fill them with two minimum vets and one minimum veteran and come in under the apron.

1. Butler (32.4)
2. Harris (32.4)
3. Embiid (27.5)
4. MLE (9.2)
5. Simmons (8.1)
6. BAE (3.6)
7. 1st round pick (2.2)
8. Bolden (1.7)
9. Redick (9)
10. Scott (4)
11. #33 (1)
12. #34 (1)
13. Vet. min. (1.6)
14. Vet min. (1.6)
15. Rookie min. (Shake Milton?) (.9)

That leaves us at 136.2 and if Bolden overtakes Scott, we'd be dumping Scott and one of the veteran minimums at the deadline away from ducking the tax altogether.

All of this assumes we dump Simmons' 1 mil guarantee.


So you're saying we may be able to bring back the starting five plus sign a new SG and C in free agency with the mle and bae? :D Oh and you left Zhaire off that list btw.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#695 » by BullyKing » Fri May 24, 2019 12:08 am

Yeah, crap forgot about Zhaire. That's a problem. I guess no BAE but still better than I thought. Hopefully, we can get a serviceable center with only using $2.5 to $3.0 of the BAE and then everything should work.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#696 » by Mik317 » Fri May 24, 2019 12:43 am

I don't think Bolden is back here next here.He feels like a guy to be attached to a pick or with Bad Simmons to see if we can get bench help that way.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#697 » by phillynative » Fri May 24, 2019 1:00 am

Watching this bucks/raptors brogdon would be nice on the sixers
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#698 » by BullyKing » Fri May 24, 2019 1:03 am

Things would be a lot easier if we could find a decent backup center for the minimum. I think our best chance of that is hoping someone gets bought out so they don't care about signing for the minimum. My dream scenario for that is John Henson. Fallback possibility is Bismack Biyombo.
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Post#699 » by XtremeDunkz » Fri May 24, 2019 1:36 am

BullyKing wrote:Things would be a lot easier if we could find a decent backup center for the minimum. I think our best chance of that is hoping someone gets bought out so they don't care about signing for the minimum. My dream scenario for that is John Henson. Fallback possibility is Bismack Biyombo.


Biyombo of a couple years ago sure. He seems to have regressed big time. He was terrible this year.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#700 » by BullyKing » Fri May 24, 2019 1:41 am

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BullyKing wrote:Things would be a lot easier if we could find a decent backup center for the minimum. I think our best chance of that is hoping someone gets bought out so they don't care about signing for the minimum. My dream scenario for that is John Henson. Fallback possibility is Bismack Biyombo.


Biyombo of a couple years ago sure. He seems to have regressed big time. He was terrible this year.


His defense has remained solid. He's beyond useless on offense but he was never much more than that anyway.
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