2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Kobblehead]

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Man, I love me some Spagnolo.

Obviously elite shooting talent. Nifty on-ball dribbling. Comfortable coming off curls and hitting setshots, as well. I hope his size is a legit 6'4" and not exaggerated.

I would love to land a talented freshman like McGowens and then follow up with a talented young international prospect to stash.

[Negrodamus]

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Man, I love me some Spagnolo.

Obviously elite shooting talent. Nifty on-ball dribbling. Comfortable coming off curls and hitting setshots, as well. I hope his size is a legit 6'4" and not exaggerated.

I would love to land a talented freshman like McGowens and then follow up with a talented young international prospect to stash.

Definitely looks like he has an NBA bag. Seems to be an advanced shot maker.

Not 100% sure how good the competition is, but solid stats for someone his age:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/matteo-spagnolo-1.html

[Negrodamus]

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I think JD Davison is the actual Tyrese Maxey prospect of this draft. He's projected to go in the mid second, but similar size, athleticism. Last 10 games of the season he was an 80% FT shooter. Bumped his assists, rebs, and scoring at that point too. Top ten recruit of 2021 recruiting class. He didn't have the production of Maxey, but also played less minutes. Both are high percentage finishers at the rim. I don't know if Morey is planning on continuing this pass (Maxey, Springer, then another 6'3 freshman guard), but he's the type.

[mjkvol]

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I think JD Davison is the actual Tyrese Maxey prospect of this draft. He's projected to go in the mid second, but similar size, athleticism. Last 10 games of the season he was an 80% FT shooter. Bumped his assists, rebs, and scoring at that point too. Top ten recruit of 2021 recruiting class. He didn't have the production of Maxey, but also played less minutes. Both are high percentage finishers at the rim. I don't know if Morey is planning on continuing this pass (Maxey, Springer, then another 6'3 freshman guard), but he's the type.

He and Charlie Brown, Jr. would be the greatest all-lid backcourt that ever played.

[Kobblehead]

I think Davison is one of the best slashers in this class. Just have concerns about whether or not he's skilled enough. A dude with his freshman shooting percentages needs to have a hell of a work ethic to be useful offensively at the NBA level.

[Negrodamus]

I'm also curious to see what his wingspan is. I've seen some 6'4 projections which is obviously not great.

[Negrodamus]

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I guess Orlando Robinson is going to be the guy I hammer home as a steal this year. I know he's cooking MWC centers, but there aren't many 7' fters with this kind of coordination and comfort handling the ball. I'll keep saying it, feels like a guy everyone will say "why did he fall to the second round". Had production, size, length, shooting ability, and a winning record this year. If is team was a little better, they would have been in public prominence.

[stormi]

On the McGowens talk above. I would take him purely as a project pick for a chance to unearth a scorer. It's more about his traits than his production.

His age is a plus, his size and then his scoring/feel for the game/shot profile.

[Kobblehead]

I think Orlando Robinson definitely has game. There's some Greg Monroe there. Positives and the negatives. The question becomes whether or not you want a 7 footer that can't protect the rim.

[Negrodamus]

True, however we're about to see a 7ft win his second MVP despite not being a rim protector. Even Embiid is hardly an elite shotblocker in the sense that guys like Dwight Howard was.

[stormi]

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I guess Orlando Robinson is going to be the guy I hammer home as a steal this year. I know he's cooking MWC centers, but there aren't many 7' fters with this kind of coordination and comfort handling the ball. I'll keep saying it, feels like a guy everyone will say "why did he fall to the second round". Had production, size, length, shooting ability, and a winning record this year. If is team was a little better, they would have been in public prominence.

Going to dive deeper on him later, but on the surface you think he's a better prospect than Bassey was coming out?

[Negrodamus]

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I guess Orlando Robinson is going to be the guy I hammer home as a steal this year. I know he's cooking MWC centers, but there aren't many 7' fters with this kind of coordination and comfort handling the ball. I'll keep saying it, feels like a guy everyone will say "why did he fall to the second round". Had production, size, length, shooting ability, and a winning record this year. If is team was a little better, they would have been in public prominence.

Going to dive deeper on him later, but on the surface you think he's a better prospect than Bassey was coming out?

Hard to say, they are very different. Bassey has pick and pop upside (great FT% in college for a big, shot two 3pa a game) and is a more traditional big with great rebounding numbers and shot blocking. Apparently is shorter than Robinson by an estimated 2 inches. Not sure what Robinson's wingspan is yet, but Bassey's is huge; like 7'3.5.

Robinson is a definitively better passer and more comfortable shooter facing up. Can actually get him the ball on the elbow or perimeter and ask him to score, at least at the college level. If that handle is sustainable at the pro level, a big if, then he has a unique attribute that only a few 7fter possess in the NBA, the ability to put the ball on the floor and get a bucket and also utilize high BBIQ to hit open guys.

So, long way of saying that he has attributes that appear in special players but it can all go up in flames at the next level. That's why taking him in the second round is not really a big deal. If he has a great combine and cooks the competition, I could see him rising up to the late first and I still think that's a worthwhile move, tbh.

[Kobblehead]

Often times, a guy gets locked into the top 3 by default even though nobody wants him. This year, that guy is Paolo Banchero.

[mjkvol]

Often times, a guy gets locked into the top 3 by default even though nobody wants him. This year, that guy is Paolo Banchero.

Is Banchero this year's Okafor?

[Kobblehead]

I think Malaki Branham is the best player in this draft and I'd take him #1 if I was picking there.

[Foshan]

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I guess Orlando Robinson is going to be the guy I hammer home as a steal this year. I know he's cooking MWC centers, but there aren't many 7' fters with this kind of coordination and comfort handling the ball. I'll keep saying it, feels like a guy everyone will say "why did he fall to the second round". Had production, size, length, shooting ability, and a winning record this year. If is team was a little better, they would have been in public prominence.

Going to dive deeper on him later, but on the surface you think he's a better prospect than Bassey was coming out?

Hard to say, they are very different. Bassey has pick and pop upside (great FT% in college for a big, shot two 3pa a game) and is a more traditional big with great rebounding numbers and shot blocking. Apparently is shorter than Robinson by an estimated 2 inches. Not sure what Robinson's wingspan is yet, but Bassey's is huge; like 7'3.5.

Robinson is a definitively better passer and more comfortable shooter facing up. Can actually get him the ball on the elbow or perimeter and ask him to score, at least at the college level. If that handle is sustainable at the pro level, a big if, then he has a unique attribute that only a few 7fter possess in the NBA, the ability to put the ball on the floor and get a bucket and also utilize high BBIQ to hit open guys.

So, long way of saying that he has attributes that appear in special players but it can all go up in flames at the next level. That's why taking him in the second round is not really a big deal. If he has a great combine and cooks the competition, I could see him rising up to the late first and I still think that's a worthwhile move, tbh.

Agreed, would love to grab a guy like this in the 2nd. He moves his feet well, looks like he boxes out, i think he could be a guy that plays next to Paul Reed or even Embiid.

I really think we need to increase our size at the 4 spot, getting a guy like this (or Bassey growing) could push Reed to 4 all the time, and give us a size advantage that we've lost since losing ben in the line up.

[DayofMourning]

I think Malaki Branham is the best player in this draft and I'd take him #1 if I was picking there.

Well...that's ballsy....

I like it.

[Kobblehead]

I like Smith, Griffin, and Holmgren. I just think Branham is the best of the best. I think he's going to follow in the footsteps of guys like Devin Booker and Tyler Herro and be the next stud SG to emerge.

[Negrodamus]

I think Malaki Branham is the best player in this draft and I'd take him #1 if I was picking there.

I watched some of his stuff despite knowing he’s going to be picked well before our spot (if we keep the pick). He definitely passes the eye test and advanced stat test. I’m curious why he didn’t get more minutes/ppg.

[Kobblehead]

I think that was mainly an early season thing because Holtman was so pleased with Ohio State's depth. Towards the middle, onward, they used him as a horse that was racking up 30+ mpg nights like Liddell.