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Mik317 wrote:cooper's touched looked way better than ben's in the little I saw of him
Negrodamus wrote:I think I have my early top 6 and it's kinda freak ****:
1) Cooper Flagg
2) Dylan Harper
3) Jeremiah Fears
4) Derik Queen
5) Ace Bailey
6) Kasparas Jakucionis
7) Egor Denim
Egor has as much potential as Ace to jump this list and be in the top 3. Both need to show more on many aspects of their game, but it's obvious the upside is there.
Harper at 2 is because he is a Paul Pierce type player to me. Seems fairly obvious he's going to be an All-NBA player at some point.
Fears has the total package right now statistically and it shows when he's on the court: 2-way player, tight ballhandler, good looking shot, gets to the FT line, finishes with both hands. He's electric; buying a lot of stock right now.
Derick Queen has a Boogie Cousins/Zach Randolph build. Face up game. Skill level is obviously elite and you can easily see how he could be a top PF in the league. Don't know anything about his personality, but he seems eccentric on the court like the aforementioned former all stars. His moves are very deliberate (in a good way, not hesitating) and he is producing at an elite level. But he's a bit of a tubby boy. Curious how that will play out.
Kasparas would be higher if he was athletic, like at all. Skill level might be the highest of all these guys, but is a bit slow footed. Reminds me of SGA at UK except without a 7' wingspan.
76ciology wrote:Edgecombe’s PnR number is a red flag for me.
All these NBA playoff games reminds me why Ace Bailey has to be a top 5 pick. F stats. His archetype and playstyle is designed for NBA playoffs
Negrodamus wrote:76ciology wrote:Edgecombe’s PnR number is a red flag for me.
All these NBA playoff games reminds me why Ace Bailey has to be a top 5 pick. F stats. His archetype and playstyle is designed for NBA playoffs
I’ll be fine taking him if it’s understood that he’s going to be 15-20 min a game, if that, and he’s focusing on getting larger, learning how to drive/dribble, adding consistency on his shot, and being a defensive hawk. Otherwise, we’re letting him be the same inefficient guy he was at Rutgers.
ProcessDoctor wrote:Negrodamus wrote:76ciology wrote:Edgecombe’s PnR number is a red flag for me.
All these NBA playoff games reminds me why Ace Bailey has to be a top 5 pick. F stats. His archetype and playstyle is designed for NBA playoffs
I’ll be fine taking him if it’s understood that he’s going to be 15-20 min a game, if that, and he’s focusing on getting larger, learning how to drive/dribble, adding consistency on his shot, and being a defensive hawk. Otherwise, we’re letting him be the same inefficient guy he was at Rutgers.
On top of that, I think he's just too raw if our goal is to still compete with our big 3 next season. If Morey & co. truly believe in him as a franchise player, then it's time to move on from PG and Embiid.
76ciology wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:Negrodamus wrote:
I’ll be fine taking him if it’s understood that he’s going to be 15-20 min a game, if that, and he’s focusing on getting larger, learning how to drive/dribble, adding consistency on his shot, and being a defensive hawk. Otherwise, we’re letting him be the same inefficient guy he was at Rutgers.
On top of that, I think he's just too raw if our goal is to still compete with our big 3 next season. If Morey & co. truly believe in him as a franchise player, then it's time to move on from PG and Embiid.
Looking at our team, we’re already set up for another run next year. Whether it ends in success or falls flat like last season is still up in the air.
That said, we’re in a good position to draft a project player and let him develop in the background, similar to how the Warriors handled Kuminga and Wiseman, turning them into either trade chips for a major move or potential cornerstones for life after the Embiid era.
We’ll run it back next year, and by 2027–2028, we’d be ready to rise again with the raw player we draft and develop.
Two guys who fit that description for me are Bailey and Maluach.
76ciology wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:Negrodamus wrote:
I’ll be fine taking him if it’s understood that he’s going to be 15-20 min a game, if that, and he’s focusing on getting larger, learning how to drive/dribble, adding consistency on his shot, and being a defensive hawk. Otherwise, we’re letting him be the same inefficient guy he was at Rutgers.
On top of that, I think he's just too raw if our goal is to still compete with our big 3 next season. If Morey & co. truly believe in him as a franchise player, then it's time to move on from PG and Embiid.
Looking at our team, we’re already set up for another run next year. Whether it ends in success or falls flat like last season is still up in the air.
That said, we’re in a good position to draft a project player and let him develop in the background, similar to how the Warriors handled Kuminga and Wiseman, turning them into either trade chips for a major move or potential cornerstones for life after the Embiid era.
We’ll run it back next year and the year after that, and by 2027–2028, we’d be ready to rise again with the raw player we draft and develop. While having two first round picks in 2028.
Two guys who fit that description for me are Bailey and Maluach.
ProcessDoctor wrote:76ciology wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:
On top of that, I think he's just too raw if our goal is to still compete with our big 3 next season. If Morey & co. truly believe in him as a franchise player, then it's time to move on from PG and Embiid.
Looking at our team, we’re already set up for another run next year. Whether it ends in success or falls flat like last season is still up in the air.
That said, we’re in a good position to draft a project player and let him develop in the background, similar to how the Warriors handled Kuminga and Wiseman, turning them into either trade chips for a major move or potential cornerstones for life after the Embiid era.
We’ll run it back next year, and by 2027–2028, we’d be ready to rise again with the raw player we draft and develop.
Two guys who fit that description for me are Bailey and Maluach.
I get what you’re saying, but Wiseman and Kuminga? Most golden state fans would admit they’ve regretted those picks and wished they cashed them in for a star sooner. Both were largely disappointments and neither really contributed to their 2022 championship run.
Negrodamus wrote:76ciology wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:
On top of that, I think he's just too raw if our goal is to still compete with our big 3 next season. If Morey & co. truly believe in him as a franchise player, then it's time to move on from PG and Embiid.
Looking at our team, we’re already set up for another run next year. Whether it ends in success or falls flat like last season is still up in the air.
That said, we’re in a good position to draft a project player and let him develop in the background, similar to how the Warriors handled Kuminga and Wiseman, turning them into either trade chips for a major move or potential cornerstones for life after the Embiid era.
We’ll run it back next year and the year after that, and by 2027–2028, we’d be ready to rise again with the raw player we draft and develop. While having two first round picks in 2028.
Two guys who fit that description for me are Bailey and Maluach.
Wiseman doesn't elicit excitement for me. Neither does Darko Milicic, who was said to be the same "development" guy in that draft over picking Bosh, Melo, Wade, etc. There's a lot of things screaming at me that Bailey should not be touched.