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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#701 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:21 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Jrue and Redick trade should be priority. Getting Thybulle slotted at starting 2 guard is the priority over a buddy hield type .

Offer :

Horford,Josh Richardson, Okc 1st , PHL 2nd ( rights to Micic) possibly korkmaz or zhaire but probably not.


I know the majority won't agree with you, but I think this is close to being the best offer NOP will get for a 30-year-old Jrue (due for a big contract extension) and a 36-year-old Redick.

I think it'd have to be Richardson + Horford + Smith + OKC 1st + 2022 1st


Jrue(33)/Milton(15)
Redick(24)/Korkmaz(20)/Milton(4)
Harris(20)/Thybulle(28)
Simmons(34)/Harris(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)

Jrue/Milton/Micic
Redick/Korkmaz/2nd
Harris/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/2nd
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


Maybe the closest we can get to truly contending without giving up Simmons.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#702 » by PhillyPhilly » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:40 am

Why the hell are people still talking about jj? Will yall ever get over the guy?? He's not what we need to win a championship, PERIOD. We need to move FORWARD...not backwards.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#703 » by youngcrev » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:35 am

PhillyPhilly wrote:Why the hell are people still talking about jj? Will yall ever get over the guy?? He's not what we need to win a championship, PERIOD. We need to move FORWARD...not backwards.


Because Joel Embiid is still talking about JJ
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#704 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:55 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:Why the hell are people still talking about jj? Will yall ever get over the guy?? He's not what we need to win a championship, PERIOD. We need to move FORWARD...not backwards.


I think he just happens to be a good contract to pair with Jrue in a trade. It also doesn’t hurt that Embiid likes playing with him.
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Post#705 » by PhillyPhilly » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:18 pm

youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:Why the hell are people still talking about jj? Will yall ever get over the guy?? He's not what we need to win a championship, PERIOD. We need to move FORWARD...not backwards.


Because Joel Embiid is still talking about JJ


And Joel Embiid selects players and runs the team, right?
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Post#706 » by PhillyPhilly » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:19 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:Why the hell are people still talking about jj? Will yall ever get over the guy?? He's not what we need to win a championship, PERIOD. We need to move FORWARD...not backwards.


I think he just happens to be a good contract to pair with Jrue in a trade. It also doesn’t hurt that Embiid likes playing with him.


No thank you...time to move on.
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Post#707 » by youngcrev » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:29 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:Why the hell are people still talking about jj? Will yall ever get over the guy?? He's not what we need to win a championship, PERIOD. We need to move FORWARD...not backwards.


Because Joel Embiid is still talking about JJ


And Joel Embiid selects players and runs the team, right?


:lol: what kind of response is that? Are you under the impression realgm posters have more pull in the organization than Jo?
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Post#708 » by PhillyPhilly » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:52 pm

youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
Because Joel Embiid is still talking about JJ


And Joel Embiid selects players and runs the team, right?


:lol: what kind of response is that? Are you under the impression realgm posters have more pull in the organization than Jo?


Joel talks about Jimmy Butler too...so according to your logic we should trade the farm for him aswell? It's time to move forward now.
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Post#709 » by youngcrev » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:02 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
And Joel Embiid selects players and runs the team, right?


:lol: what kind of response is that? Are you under the impression realgm posters have more pull in the organization than Jo?


Joel talks about Jimmy Butler too...so according to your logic we should trade the farm for him aswell? It's time to move forward now.


I mean... They pretty clearly should have brought Jimmy back over the moves they made, so I'm not sure your point.

Nobody is suggesting trading the farm for JJ.
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Post#710 » by PhillyPhilly » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:06 pm

youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
:lol: what kind of response is that? Are you under the impression realgm posters have more pull in the organization than Jo?


Joel talks about Jimmy Butler too...so according to your logic we should trade the farm for him aswell? It's time to move forward now.


I mean... They pretty clearly should have brought Jimmy back over the moves they made, so I'm not sure your point.

Nobody is suggesting trading the farm for JJ.


Yeah a 30 year old with an injury history who doesn't shoot three pointers would have OBVIOUSLY been a great move to keep alongside Ben and Jo.
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Post#711 » by Mik317 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:51 pm

Jimmy gets to the line. Makes up for his bad shooting.
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Post#712 » by youngcrev » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:23 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
Joel talks about Jimmy Butler too...so according to your logic we should trade the farm for him aswell? It's time to move forward now.


I mean... They pretty clearly should have brought Jimmy back over the moves they made, so I'm not sure your point.

Nobody is suggesting trading the farm for JJ.


Yeah a 30 year old with an injury history who doesn't shoot three pointers would have OBVIOUSLY been a great move to keep alongside Ben and Jo.


As opposed to signing a 34 year old who can't play with both on the floor or giving huge money to Tobias, or relying on minimum salary players to be your primary perimeter threat?

Jimmy is a top 15 player in the game, a high end defender, and a guy that can create offense off the bounce. His lack of shooting and age made for an imperfect fit, but let's not act like this team wouldn't be considerably better if he was still here.
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Post#713 » by PhillyPhilly » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:40 am

youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
I mean... They pretty clearly should have brought Jimmy back over the moves they made, so I'm not sure your point.

Nobody is suggesting trading the farm for JJ.


Yeah a 30 year old with an injury history who doesn't shoot three pointers would have OBVIOUSLY been a great move to keep alongside Ben and Jo.


As opposed to signing a 34 year old who can't play with both on the floor or giving huge money to Tobias, or relying on minimum salary players to be your primary perimeter threat?

Jimmy is a top 15 player in the game, a high end defender, and a guy that can create offense off the bounce. His lack of shooting and age made for an imperfect fit, but let's not act like this team wouldn't be considerably better if he was still here.


Al was brought in to both hurt the Celtics and cover for Joel...lets not act like he was Jimmy's direct replacement. Also Jimmy wanted to go..so what was Brand meant to do in that situation? As for Tobias..please tell me another SF who is clearly better than him that we could have attained in free agency? He was wanted by other teams so he was always gonna get paid.
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Post#714 » by Negrodamus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:22 am

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904053-1-trade-for-every-nba-lottery-team-if-it-wins-no-1-pick
The Trade: 2020 No. 1 overall pick, G/F Zach LaVine, PF Lauri Markkanen to Philadelphia 76ers for Ben Simmons

The Bulls' new front office has already made its first major move by firing head coach Jim Boylen. Making a big offer for All-Star Ben Simmons would certainly send the message that this team is ready to make a serious playoff run.

While the Sixers will likely refuse any trade offers for Simmons, maybe they'd at least consider listening now that the point guard/power forward is out following knee surgery. A strong playoff performance with a team fully led by Joel Embiid could certainly make Simmons more likely to be traded, as well.

LaVine and Markkanen could step in and help Philly right away, with the former averaging 25.5 points per game this season, 11th-highest in the NBA. A lineup of Shake Milton, LaVine, Tobias Harris, Markkanen and Embiid would feature plenty of scoring and would be the best outside-shooting lineup since the Process began.

The Sixers would then have their choice of any prospect on the board, likely leaning toward a playmaker like LaMelo Ball to help make up for the loss of Simmons.

For Chicago, getting Simmons would mean letting him have full control of a team for the first time in his career and unlocking his potential in whatever role the new head coach sees fit. The Bulls wouldn't have gutted the roster for him, either, filling out a starting lineup with Wendell Carter Jr., Coby White, Thaddeus Young and Otto Porter Jr.

Already playing in a major market, the Bulls would suddenly become a far more attractive free-agent destination and would project to open up max cap space in 2021.


#1 overall pick? Um, yea, in a second. We'd need to get rid of Harris still.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#715 » by youngcrev » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:39 am

In this draft? Who are you taking #1 that intrigues you more than Ben?
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Post#716 » by Negrodamus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:47 am

youngcrev wrote:In this draft? Who are you taking #1 that intrigues you more than Ben?


Well, it'd be #1 pick, LaVine, and Markkanen. The former two are obvious fits with Embiid and the #1 pick could be another potential star that fits with our superstar center.

Nothing against Ben, but this experiment is hinging on him becoming a passable shooter and I'm not terribly confident.
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Post#717 » by youngcrev » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:53 am

PhillyPhilly wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
Yeah a 30 year old with an injury history who doesn't shoot three pointers would have OBVIOUSLY been a great move to keep alongside Ben and Jo.


As opposed to signing a 34 year old who can't play with both on the floor or giving huge money to Tobias, or relying on minimum salary players to be your primary perimeter threat?

Jimmy is a top 15 player in the game, a high end defender, and a guy that can create offense off the bounce. His lack of shooting and age made for an imperfect fit, but let's not act like this team wouldn't be considerably better if he was still here.


Al was brought in to both hurt the Celtics and cover for Joel...lets not act like he was Jimmy's direct replacement. Also Jimmy wanted to go..so what was Brand meant to do in that situation? As for Tobias..please tell me another SF who is clearly better than him that we could have attained in free agency? He was wanted by other teams so he was always gonna get paid.


So we're shifting from it would have been stupid to sign Jimmy to he didn't want to sign here (which may be true, but absolutely was not your original point)? And on top of that, it doesn't matter that Brand spent stupidly anyway?

What's it matter if you couldn't find a better SF than Harris? That's why they should have paid him more than any other team could? And how can you simultaneously make that argument defending that contract while saying giving a big deal to Jimmy would be stupid?
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Post#718 » by stormi » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:59 am

Ben and no Embiid >>> Embiid and no Ben
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Post#719 » by youngcrev » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:09 am

Negrodamus wrote:
youngcrev wrote:In this draft? Who are you taking #1 that intrigues you more than Ben?


Well, it'd be #1 pick, LaVine, and Markkanen. The former two are obvious fits with Embiid and the #1 pick could be another potential star that fits with our superstar center.

Nothing against Ben, but this experiment is hinging on him becoming a passable shooter and I'm not terribly confident.


You're still in cap hell, so retaining Markkanen would be tough.

LaVine just isn't a winning basketball player to me. Puts up big numbers, but the Bulls had the 29th ranked offense in the league, and he's a sieve on the defensive end. He intrigues me from a skill set perspective in that he fill some major gaps between Ben and Jo, but no way do I want him as my second best player.

So it basically comes down to the draft, and while that's definitely not my forte, based on everything I've heard there's nobody all that intriguing at the top.

I mean, it's not an insulting package, I just think quality for quantity deals rarely work out
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Post#720 » by Mik317 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:18 am

think you can go over to resign guys with bird rights...not like he has exactly lit the world on fire tho.

That is probably the best haul you'd get for any Ben deal tho

you really have to be high on Ball, Edwards or whoever tho. Lavine is great but....honestly would want to see him WITH Ben more than anything.
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