2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

Kobblehead · Post #701 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 12, 2022 12:21 pm

I really like this draft.

If we keep our pick from the Nets, I see two 19 year old potential stars we could have a crack at (Jaden Hardy from the G-League and Bryce McGowens from Nebraska).

Mik317 · Post #702 » by **Mik317** » Thu May 12, 2022 12:44 pm

and we will take some 23 year old who does one thing okay to spite you (and me).

Negrodamus · Post #703 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu May 12, 2022 12:55 pm

What's the deal with Hardy falling so much after being so highly touted out of high school? I know his percentages are not great, but he's also playing against guys like Braxton Key instead of generic Duquesne SF.

Mik317 · Post #704 » by **Mik317** » Thu May 12, 2022 1:26 pm

he looks slow to me in my very small sample size. Like he doesn't get separation on anything he does and relies on hitting tough shots.....which he didn't hit many apparently. I do think the ignite team this year was a lot worse in terms of talent tho....so maybe the spacing was bad. I know they had like 3-4 ball dominant dudes that needed touches including Hardy

mjkvol · Post #705 » by **mjkvol** » Thu May 12, 2022 5:49 pm

Mik317 wrote:and we will take some 23 year old who does one thing okay to spite you (and me).

But he'll be uber-athletic and have incredible potential upside.

Negrodamus · Post #706 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 13, 2022 12:54 am

Watch on YouTube

Seems like this guy is a 10-15 year vet who makes a living hitting 3s. Not even projected to get drafted on tankathon.

Kobblehead · Post #707 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri May 13, 2022 12:16 pm

Mik317 wrote:and we will take some 23 year old who does one thing okay to spite you (and me).

That would be something.

Reason for optimism is that Morey appears to have prioritized using our 1sts on freshmen with upside (Maxey and Springer). So hopefully he keeps that going if we have a pick this year.

My ideal scenario is that Maxey continues running with the starters in year 3, Springer cracks the rotation as a 20 mpg defensive guard (while hopefully improving his shooting), and then Hardy/McGowens lead the Bluecoats in scoring for a year. I think that's a good developmental structure and it allows us to fully take advantage of Embiid's post-prime Duncan phase.

Kobblehead · Post #708 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri May 13, 2022 12:38 pm

James Akinjo has played for 3 different schools so definitely a major red flag. However, he also seems like an obvious NBA talent. I hope we're in communication with him through the pre-draft process so we're on the shortlist of teams he'll sign with as an UDFA to bring to camp.

He's a very skilled albeit inconsistent shooter/scorer. He's shown ability to be a disruptor on the defensive end despite his tiny stature. And he has some lead G distributing traits. Not a bad guy to kick the tires on with a Summer League and Training Camp look.

Negrodamus · Post #709 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 13, 2022 12:57 pm

I didn't realize Akinjo was still in college. I feel like he was at Georgetown back in 2014.

Arsenal · Post #710 » by **Arsenal** » Fri May 13, 2022 1:19 pm

If we keep our 1st rounder I want E.J. Liddell. Immediately slot him into the PJ Tucker / Jae Crowder role.

Mik317 · Post #711 » by **Mik317** » Fri May 13, 2022 1:24 pm

wonder if Elton was released from the janitor's closet to give his annual promise

Negrodamus · Post #712 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm

Arsenal wrote:If we keep our 1st rounder I want E.J. Liddell. Immediately slot him into the PJ Tucker / Jae Crowder role.

The problem with those roles is that those two didn't become the guys they are (or even were in their championship runs) until like their fifth year in the league. It's similar to shooters a la JJ Redick. They need like 2-3 teams to figure it out.

Arsenal · Post #713 » by **Arsenal** » Fri May 13, 2022 1:32 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Arsenal wrote:If we keep our 1st rounder I want E.J. Liddell. Immediately slot him into the PJ Tucker / Jae Crowder role.

The problem with those roles is that those two didn't become the guys they are (or even were in their championship runs) until like their fifth year in the league. It's similar to shooters a la JJ Redick. They need like 2-3 teams to figure it out.

Hope he can figure it out quick ala Grant Williams. Meanwhile need to sign a vet like Boucher or Porter also.

Negrodamus · Post #714 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 13, 2022 5:18 pm

Wendell Moore is my Miles McBride of this draft. Best part is he's 6'5 with a 7' wingspan. Wasn't the killer McBride was at WVU, but he was also forced to be a cog in the Duke machine, similar to how Kentucky suppresses some guys stats. I'd go as far to say that he's at the top of my board at our pick.

Watch on YouTube

Negrodamus · Post #715 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 13, 2022 9:52 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I really like this draft.

If we keep our pick from the Nets, I see two 19 year old potential stars we could have a crack at (Jaden Hardy from the G-League and Bryce McGowens from Nebraska).

Just wanted to loop back around and say how much I hate this draft. Possibly my least liked one in some time.

Kobblehead · Post #716 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat May 14, 2022 1:30 am

Negrodamus wrote:Wendell Moore is my Miles McBride of this draft. Best part is he's 6'5 with a 7' wingspan. Wasn't the killer McBride was at WVU, but he was also forced to be a cog in the Duke machine, similar to how Kentucky suppresses some guys stats. I'd go as far to say that he's at the top of my board at our pick.

Watch on YouTube

I like Wendell Moore as a role player, but I don't like the draft range he's risen to. He's a guy I'd prefer in the middle of the 2nd round. Like Juzang. Not a guy I have to burn a late first on. I'd rather get a guy with more upside there.

Kobblehead · Post #717 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat May 14, 2022 1:42 am

Max Christie is my pick for "bad freshman season, good NBA player" in this class. I think he's going to be a really useful G/F. Silky smooth skilled player. Should thrive with NBA development program and strength gain.

Negrodamus · Post #718 » by **Negrodamus** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:19 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Wendell Moore is my Miles McBride of this draft. Best part is he's 6'5 with a 7' wingspan. Wasn't the killer McBride was at WVU, but he was also forced to be a cog in the Duke machine, similar to how Kentucky suppresses some guys stats. I'd go as far to say that he's at the top of my board at our pick.

Watch on YouTube

I like Wendell Moore as a role player, but I don't like the draft range he's risen to. He's a guy I'd prefer in the middle of the 2nd round. Like Juzang. Not a guy I have to burn a late first on. I'd rather get a guy with more upside there.

Fair point. He’s definitely trending more towards role player. I just have to weigh it against the volatility of the freshmen available at the same spot. Frankly, there’s a lot of concerns with them not really showing up statistically for me to feel comfortable. I feel like Moore, Laravia, and Davison are the top guys I’d take a chance on at our pick.

Kobblehead · Post #719 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:35 pm

The thing I really like about Moore is that I trust his skill level and his work ethic. Coach K loves him. So if I have wavering confidence in Jaden Springer's skill development after a poor showing in the G-League, Moore would be a guy that can function in a similar role (power G with ancillary facilitating and some defensive competitiveness) that I can put my faith in.

On the other hand, my preference is to just keep taking swings at freshmen.

mjkvol · Post #720 » by **mjkvol** » Sat May 14, 2022 2:36 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Arsenal wrote:If we keep our 1st rounder I want E.J. Liddell. Immediately slot him into the PJ Tucker / Jae Crowder role.

The problem with those roles is that those two didn't become the guys they are (or even were in their championship runs) until like their fifth year in the league. It's similar to shooters a la JJ Redick. They need like 2-3 teams to figure it out.

Hope he can figure it out quick ala Grant Williams. Meanwhile need to sign a vet like Boucher or Porter also.

I remember Grant Williams getting killed by draft prognosticators, but having watched his career at UT there was little doubt that he would find a place as a solid rotation piece and have a long NBA career. Guy was a leader and a baller in college, and despite being a tweener is the kind of 'glue guy' that good teams always seem to have.