Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[eyeatoma]

LMAO, so now they're saying that Morey is trying to get Harden to return. I don't buy it.

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I somewhat believe it. It certaibly seemed like they wanted him back before the trade demand, but on a team friendly deal. Right now the two options are trade him for the a package they don't want or go the Ben Simmons route and let him sit until somebody offers something decent if they're lucky. A third option would be to have him play and at least help the team win some extra games and could help keep his value high enough while waiting for the teams to get more desperate. I could see Harden potentially buying into this over sitting like Simmons.

I'm sure Morey would be happy with Harden finishing the year out, but it's not very plausible for Harden to agree to it.

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Yeah I should have clarified what I meant. I don't doubt Morey wants him, I just think Harden is absolutely pissed, and Patrick Beverly on the roster isn't going to fix that.

[LessMorey]

That seems to fit the LAC need and should be more than enough for POR at this point - they aren't getting more than that from Miami.

We're going to suffer defensively unless Springer develops into a real rotation piece and RoCo isn't totally washed, and we might get killed on the boards. Not a championship team in all likelihood, but at least we keep Maxey.

No shot that's enough. Portland would need to get Mann or get additional picks for him. Even then, I don't think it's enough. Three first-round picks with the earliest being in 2028 doesn't beat a Miami offer.

[LessMorey]

Has this been discussed already? I think the Beverly signing was 2 fold.

1) try to convince Harden to stay
2) free up Melton to now be included in trade talks.

Beverly earning $6M less and provides a backup Guard with defense. What does Melton do THAT much better than Beverly to where you can justify not putting that $6M difference into other roster spots?

I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded to a team like the Mavs. Because once Maxey gets paid next summer and we take on some additional salary from a potential Tobias trade our cap situation isn't going to look great. Plus, there's a chance Morey would want to open up max space next summer and that's increasingly difficult with Melton needing a new contract or we let him walk for free. Better to turn him into a cost-controlled player for at least two seasons and/or draft capital.

[Embiid P]

Has this been discussed already? I think the Beverly signing was 2 fold.

1) try to convince Harden to stay
2) free up Melton to now be included in trade talks.

Beverly earning $6M less and provides a backup Guard with defense. What does Melton do THAT much better than Beverly to where you can justify not putting that $6M difference into other roster spots?

I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded to a team like the Mavs. Because once Maxey gets paid next summer and we take on some additional salary from a potential Tobias trade our cap situation isn't going to look great. Plus, there's a chance Morey would want to open up max space next summer and that's increasingly difficult with Melton needing a new contract or we let him walk for free. Better to turn him into a cost-controlled player for at least two seasons and/or draft capital.

Hence why we need to acquire more draft picks and cheap contributors in the worst possible way and try to improve our player development a la the Heat.

Right now the proposed Clippers trade for Harden doesn't look that bad to me.

Whether we keep Maxey or trade for Lillard or some other star player, we're likely going to be up against the second tax apron in a few years or so especially if we have to overpay for a supporting cast.

[FireMorey]

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[ProcessDoctor]

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I think today is the big summer party Rubin throws.

[Mik317]

They bring harden back and I won’t watch this season lol

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[ProcessDoctor]

One thing I'm certain we have to do this offseason is trade Harden. I don't want to keep him under any circumstances. His BPM has dropped off significantly after his age-31 season (1st year with Brooklyn).

[Skates]

It’s gonna be a lonnnngggg summer…

[sixers hoops]

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Problem solved. Josh Harris knows how to relate to these players with his smooth game.

[Ferry Avenue]

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I think today is the big summer party Rubin throws.

I suppose they declared a Penn State football-esque "white out" for that?

[Embiid-MVP]

They bring harden back and I won’t watch this season lol

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Cya!

Some fans overreact damn. Harden wasn't the main problem. It's easy to point to the issues and ignore the great things he did. It's Philly after all.
We have Harris+ to get us another player/s. If Morey pulls the right move then it can change everything in a positive way. Let's wait before we overreact and say dumb stuff like that

[Arsenal]

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Problem solved. Josh Harris knows how to relate to these players with his smooth game.

LOL but seriously this could be the type of thing to facilitate a return. Nothing like partying it up in the Hamptons to smooth over hard feelings.

On the list of potential outcomes, Harden returning for one more season could be the "least bad" outcome.

[sixers hoops]

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Problem solved. Josh Harris knows how to relate to these players with his smooth game.

LOL but seriously this could be the type of thing to facilitate a return. Nothing like partying it up in the Hamptons to smooth over hard feelings.

On the list of potential outcomes, Harden returning for one more season could be the "least bad" outcome.

True, but Harris is such a little weasel. I wish I had video of this conversation.

[mjkvol]

That seems to fit the LAC need and should be more than enough for POR at this point - they aren't getting more than that from Miami.

We're going to suffer defensively unless Springer develops into a real rotation piece and RoCo isn't totally washed, and we might get killed on the boards. Not a championship team in all likelihood, but at least we keep Maxey.

No shot that's enough. Portland would need to get Mann or get additional picks for him. Even then, I don't think it's enough. Three first-round picks with the earliest being in 2028 doesn't beat a Miami offer.

Fine with me, I don't want the trade anyway. We're still 2nd round fodder with that group.

[mjkvol]

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Problem solved. Josh Harris knows how to relate to these players with his smooth game.

LOL but seriously this could be the type of thing to facilitate a return. Nothing like partying it up in the Hamptons to smooth over hard feelings.

On the list of potential outcomes, Harden returning for one more season could be the "least bad" outcome.

At this point, I'd be fine with running it back. Like you say, the "least bad" option.

[FireMorey]

They’d be running it back though with no bench this time because they sat on their asses waiting for the harden thing to straighten out before making any moves. So it’s just going to be the same team as last season except worse and less deep.

[Arsenal]

They’d be running it back though with no bench this time because they sat on their asses waiting for the harden thing to straighten out before making any moves. So it’s just going to be the same team as last season except worse and less deep.

Nobody we lost was a difference maker. They're all irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

[zaz102]

They’d be running it back though with no bench this time because they sat on their asses waiting for the harden thing to straighten out before making any moves. So it’s just going to be the same team as last season except worse and less deep.

Nobody we lost was a difference maker. They're all irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah, Niang was their most productive player of the ones that left and he averaged 14.3 MPG, 4.4 PPG, on 1.1 3PM.

That being said, I'm not expecting they'll win the championship by running it back, but I'm hoping they can figure how to turn Harris and/or Harden into something by the trade deadline or next offseason.

I am one who kinda poo poos thr notion you have to go all in or start a rebuild. An example is if the Clippers decided to not trade for Paul George, they instead would have SGA and a bunch of draft picks that they could use or trade for somebody. They didn't do anyhthing in that year or two and they would be much better off now

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[FireMorey]

They’d be running it back though with no bench this time because they sat on their asses waiting for the harden thing to straighten out before making any moves. So it’s just going to be the same team as last season except worse and less deep.

Nobody we lost was a difference maker. They're all irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

They made a difference. It may be small, but it adds up. Right now Korkmaz and Bev are your first guys off the bench not named Milton. That's really bad. Worst bench in the NBA currently.

People will believe that now, but come the season and/or playoffs if they don't find a way to add bench talent it's going to be the main talking point all season.