The Coaching Thread/SF76 Update: Page 54

[Sixersftw]

Dear Sir,

Please excuse my misinterpretation of the original questionnaire, fiddlesticks. Nonetheless, I hope you have a resplendent day.

[eyeatoma]

LOL knock it off guys... This extreme politeness is nauseating

[sixerfan1976]

i put this in tom's thread.....but worth sharing here......

Avery has dropped a few pegs on our list because he doesnt have us as his first option.

Its really Mitchell vs Collins and I am pretty sure they will try and actually interview them both thsi week again before final decision.

Collins has the WCF GAme 2 tomorrow then there are three off days til WCF Game 3. Could fit him in then.

Collins wants roster change because there are some parts that dont fit and Mitchell says Dalembert is a 38 minute a game all defense type of guy...and Iguodala is banned from 3's:)

I would be happy with either one honestly.

Sounds like No Casey and No Woodson apparently..they had talked about interviewing Woodson today or tomorrow and changed their mind and determined it wasnt a fit.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

I don't like Johnson's attitude when it comes to these interviews and stuff, he seems as though he's entitled and not on the employment line for 2 years running.

Now, I don't see how Mike Woodson is NOT a fit. You try winning 53 games with Josh Smith as your primary "big" and with your PG/SF COMBINED giving you 20 PPG.

Woodson did a remarkable job given his assets and I'd fear whatever team hires him as coach. If I were Chicago, I'd hire Woodson myself.

Collins VS Mitchell: Give me Doug Collins. Collins is exactly what this team needs, a taskmanager, a coach, he will put this team in a position to win every night. He's tough, he's hard nosed.

And he understands that this team is flawed as constructed. Few shooters, even fewer post men. Big men depth in serious question.

The very FACT that Collins is the favorite means that Stefanski is probably either out of town or willing to make changes.

[HartfordWhalers]

i put this in tom's thread.....but worth sharing here......

Avery has dropped a few pegs on our list because he doesnt have us as his first option.

Its really Mitchell vs Collins and I am pretty sure they will try and actually interview them both thsi week again before final decision.

Collins has the WCF GAme 2 tomorrow then there are three off days til WCF Game 3. Could fit him in then.

Collins wants roster change because there are some parts that dont fit and Mitchell says Dalembert is a 38 minute a game all defense type of guy...and Iguodala is banned from 3's:)

I would be happy with either one honestly.

Sounds like No Casey and No Woodson apparently..they had talked about interviewing Woodson today or tomorrow and changed their mind and determined it wasnt a fit.

I still can't say I have seen a good reason for not even a 1st interview with Casey, or Thibs.

Wasn't the biggest perceived flaw of last years coaching search (besides the hiring) that Stefanski had his target from day one? How does staying in contact with Collins throughout interviewing other candidates work in terms of that? And now we are considering hiring him without even a second interview???

I have to give Stefanski credit for sticking with what is working.

We are thinking less of candidates because they would rather be with Chris Paul or Derrick Rose than with our lineup???? It is incredulous that anyone could think that. A good thing that we let this affect our criteria, and search for the best coach...

[Kobblehead]

I think it's more a case of us realizing Avery isn't coming here and we should focus on guys that have a likelihood in being here.

[Bring Back 1983]

I actually find it curious if Mitchell didn't seek changes in the roster as well. If he thinks having Willie Green as our best No. 2 guard option is workable for a playoff run, I would have thanked him for his time right then.

What is more telling is that Collins is seeking specific changes which apparently has enticed Stefanski, which tells me that they are on the same page from a personnel perspective. And not that you can tell everything by television broadcasts, but if the Sixers few nationally televised appearances over the last 3 years are any indicaton, that means you can say good-bye to Speights, Williams, and likely, Dalembert. I've seen Collins be most critical of those guys for management of game situations and/or selfishness in certain moments. I think he would be intrigued with Iguodala as ballhandling 3 who runs the floor and is a defensive workhouse (sounds a like lot Pippen-lite). Young fills the role he was born to play, which is a 6th man who can give you minutes at the 3 or 4 depending on the matchup.

Collins also has enough cred that he can bench Brand if he is truly hurting us due to a bad matchup (hello Orlando) and not get second-guessed for it. The more I think about it, the more he makes sense to me too.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Bring back 1983: I have to vehemently disagree when it comes to Lou Williams. He may have been the only Sixer that secured his spot on the roster for this year and beyond. Before the chin injury, Lou Williams was playing remarkable basketball, showing his talent and potential as a lead guard in the NBA.

Lou may have been a little inconsistent the rest of the way, but I don't think Lou had the job taken away from him by Jrue Holiday, more like I think management/ownership had to see what Jrue would give them. And eventually Jrue does give the intangibles that Lou doesn't.

But it's not like all Lou did was score. He kept his turnovers down as a starter, a big time question mark we had about him at the beginning of the season. Lou rebounded the ball and while Lou will probably never be a great playmaker, 5 AST is nothing to sneeze at either.

Lou's a very effective combo guard. And to get that at the 45th pick of the draft takes great grooming. I still think Lou can add more to his game. A breakdown dribble or two, he can work more on his point guard skills. Why are we so eager to get rid of Lou Williams? As if he's a cancerous turnover prone chucker?

Lou's a very efficient sixth man that can very easily start for a team in the NBA. You don't think Phil Jackson takes Lou Williams over Derek Old Man Fisher?

Lou's gonna be what, 23-24? It's not like he's hit the prime of his career yet. But he's extended into his prime and at a good 5 million dollars.

Trade Lou? Only for a serious upgrade 83.

[ankle420breaker]

Does anyone else feel like Collins was their pick to begin with, and this whole interview process by Stefanski was a bunch of bs to get the fans off his back and paint an image of him doing his due diligence? Not thrilled with a re-tread guy like Collins at all...

[SparksFly87]

way too deep

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I think it's Collins all the way. He's a "safe" pick in the eyes of the Sixer brass. In my eyes he's got a great basketball mind and I don't see how we miss the playoffs with him here. He will improve us defensively, and like Larry Brown will weed out the players that don't belong in his system. Those players in my opinion are Mareese Speights, and Louis Williams. Both are great offesively but neither play defense. That could spell trouble for them if they don't buy into what he is preaching. I also think that if Collins is the man then some trades will be made involving some of the bigger names on our team.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Now on the Louis Williams doesn't play defense. This isn't entirely true. Case in point: Houston, which has the always dangerous Aaron Brooks. We were at THEIR PLACE. Who contained Brooks? It was a combination of Holiday/Williams, with Williams strapped onto Brooks in the second half.

Lou Williams also did a pretty nice job against Brandon Jennings early last season, I remember Lou anticipating and denying the passing/driving lanes very well giving Jennings a tough time.

Rather then say Lou Williams doesn't play defense, it's more accurate to say he doesn't play defense consistently enough. Which I blame on the coaching staff. Sure, yes, some of it's on the player. But let's be in Lou's shoes for a minute. He had to carry the worst bench in the history of basketball.(Yes, Lakers fans, a bench where your 3rd best player is Reggie Evans is pretty damn bad).

He had to focus on his offensive game, etc. Then he was preparing to be the lead PG of the team. Did the coaching staff ever tell him to buckle down defensively? Can't tell what goes on in practices, but I bet that before Holiday, they were grooming Lou and as I said earlier, they did a fantastic job in doing so.

Now Lou's role is set in stone, now they can tell him to focus on buckling down on the defensive end. He has the skillset, the speed to be a good defensive player. He just needs instruction.

Thad's handles aren't the worst in the world, and he has a great first step and excellent footwork. He'll be a damned fine perimeter player. Like Lou, he needs direction.

That's what Collins will bring: direction.

[dond]

In my opinion, the "Safe" choice for Stefanski is Mitchell. Mitchell will be a team player and shoulder much of the blame if things do not go right. Collins, on the other hand, will be very pompous and conduct himself as someone who knows everything and is doing everything "HE CAN" do help this team win. So, if they do not win it is someone else fault, not his. And that "someone else" is going to have to be Stefanski. Now, that may be best for the Sixers organization, but not for Stefanski.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Back off Collins! He's my fav commentator! Lol

In all seriousness, he'll be a great coach for you guys.

[PhillyFan]

In my opinion, the "Safe" choice for Stefanski is Mitchell. Mitchell will be a team player and shoulder much of the blame if things do not go right. Collins, on the other hand, will be very pompous and conduct himself as someone who knows everything and is doing everything "HE CAN" do help this team win. So, if they do not win it is someone else fault, not his. And that "someone else" is going to have to be Stefanski. Now, that may be best for the Sixers organization, but not for Stefanski.

I don't think you've watch much of Sam Mitchell's post game comments...not once did I hear him taking responsibility for any losses.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Dedicated_76ers_fanNow on the Louis Williams doesn't play defense. This isn't entirely true. Case in point: Houston, which has the always dangerous Aaron Brooks. We were at THEIR PLACE. Who contained Brooks? It was a combination of Holiday/Williams, with Williams strapped onto Brooks in the second half.

Dedicated..You are talking about the game at Houston right? We did win that one but Aaron Brooks torched us for 34 points. He went 11-25 from the floor and 6-11 from beyond the arc. That is hardly containing Brooks. The home game we had against Houston Brooks scored 19 on us going 7-16 from the floor and 3-5 beyond the arc. And FYI....Louis Williams didn't even play in that game when we were at home. So you must have been referring to the Houston home game where Brooks lit us up for 34 because Lou did play in that one.

Lou Williams also did a pretty nice job against Brandon Jennings early last season, I remember Lou anticipating and denying the passing/driving lanes very well giving Jennings a tough time.

Dedicated... Again i'm not sure what you are talking about. That was Brandon Jennings I think second game of the year and he scored 17 on Williams and dropped 9 dimes and 9 rebounds easily outplaying Williams who had 16 points and just 4 assists. ...Perhaps you were talking about the game on January 27 where Jennings again dropped 18 points and 7 dimes on us while Williams was held to 7 points off the bench??
Please do your homework before posting stuff that isn't true.

He had to carry the worst bench in the history of basketball.(Yes, Lakers fans, a bench where your 3rd best player is Reggie Evans is pretty damn bad).

I'm not sure what you are even talking about right here at all........

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Dedicated_76ers_fanNow on the Louis Williams doesn't play defense. This isn't entirely true. Case in point: Houston, which has the always dangerous Aaron Brooks. We were at THEIR PLACE. Who contained Brooks? It was a combination of Holiday/Williams, with Williams strapped onto Brooks in the second half.

Dedicated..You are talking about the game at Houston right? We did win that one but Aaron Brooks torched us for 34 points. He went 11-25 from the floor and 6-11 from beyond the arc. That is hardly containing Brooks. The home game we had against Houston Brooks scored 19 on us going 7-16 from the floor and 3-5 beyond the arc. And FYI....Louis Williams didn't even play in that game when we were at home. So you must have been referring to the Houston home game where Brooks lit us up for 34 because Lou did play in that one.

Lou Williams also did a pretty nice job against Brandon Jennings early last season, I remember Lou anticipating and denying the passing/driving lanes very well giving Jennings a tough time.

Dedicated... Again i'm not sure what you are talking about. That was Brandon Jennings I think second game of the year and he scored 17 on Williams and dropped 9 dimes and 9 rebounds easily outplaying Williams who had 16 points and just 4 assists. ...Perhaps you were talking about the game on January 27 where Jennings again dropped 18 points and 7 dimes on us while Williams was held to 7 points off the bench??
Please do your homework before posting stuff that isn't true.

He had to carry the worst bench in the history of basketball.(Yes, Lakers fans, a bench where your 3rd best player is Reggie Evans is pretty damn bad).

I'm not sure what you are even talking about right here at all........

Brooks did have 34, but alot of that came VERY late and on a few shots. Brooks was chucking to get those points. If someone chucks to get 34, that's good defense. Ricky Davis isn't a scorer, he's a chucker. You virtually ignore Ricky Davis. When you get guys to CHUCK. That's great defense.

You really have to look at the context of the statsheet. Yes, Jennings got 17,9,9. But Jennings didn't have open lanes or the open court where we've seen him really torch people last year.

Lou was very solid on the defensive end, he was rotating very excellently I remember him picking off Illoysa a few times.

Numbers don't indicate how good of a floor game someone had defensively. Lou was very active against Jennings. Jennings is just a star.

So before you tell me stuff "isn't true" please understand the stat sheet doesn't indicate the performances on the floor.

For example, I remember in that same Houston game where Thaddeus Young did an outstanding job against Carl Landry. Young's performances against a Landry, a Dirk and Murphy last year tell me he can also be a very good defender in the post.

So who did we have other then Lou Williams? Jason Smith? Thad Young in his rookie year I'll give you that. Willie Green? Evans was our 3rd/4th best man off the bench.

[BringBackKorver]

Looked up the game in question...While Lou was on the floor with Brooks (15 minutes total):

AB was 5-10 for 12 points, which means he was 6-15 for 22 points in 28 minutes while Lou wasn't on the floor.

You guys can continue your arguments with the correct facts now.

[Kobblehead]

I really wish people would stop quoting that Ded guy. Every time I see him trying to discuss basketball, I want to vomit.

[Sixersftw]

Looked up the game in question...While Lou was on the floor with Brooks (15 minutes total):

AB was 5-10 for 12 points, which means he was 6-15 for 22 points in 28 minutes while Lou wasn't on the floor.

You guys can continue your arguments with the correct facts now.

Don't you come in here interjecting your fancy facts and book reading. Lou Williams = baby bruce Bowen. Triple B.