2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Negrodamus]

The problem with those roles is that those two didn't become the guys they are (or even were in their championship runs) until like their fifth year in the league. It's similar to shooters a la JJ Redick. They need like 2-3 teams to figure it out.

Hope he can figure it out quick ala Grant Williams. Meanwhile need to sign a vet like Boucher or Porter also.

I remember Grant Williams getting killed by draft prognosticators, but having watched his career at UT there was little doubt that he would find a place as a solid rotation piece and have a long NBA career. Guy was a leader and a baller in college, and despite being a tweener is the kind of 'glue guy' that good teams always seem to have.

He was under my “acceptable” picks that year. +10 AST%, +2 STL%, +80% FT. Hit all analytics I liked. Eye test was just ok. Couldn’t understand people liking Scholfirld over him during the process.

[mjkvol]

Hope he can figure it out quick ala Grant Williams. Meanwhile need to sign a vet like Boucher or Porter also.

I remember Grant Williams getting killed by draft prognosticators, but having watched his career at UT there was little doubt that he would find a place as a solid rotation piece and have a long NBA career. Guy was a leader and a baller in college, and despite being a tweener is the kind of 'glue guy' that good teams always seem to have.

He was under my “acceptable” picks that year. +10 AST%, +2 STL%, +80% FT. Hit all analytics I liked. Eye test was just ok. Couldn’t understand people liking Scholfirld over him during the process.

I'm guessing that watching him game in and game out at UT might have improved your eye test rating. Listen, I thought he was the kind of kid who someone might steal late 1st / early 2nd, but I didn't see him going any higher than that due to his tweener size.

I just remember thinking Grant would have a long career in the league while Schofield (who I loved at UT) might not even make it. I was hoping the Sixers would take him or that Boston wouldn't, but the pick made complete sense for them.

[Kobblehead]

I remember Grant Williams getting killed by draft prognosticators, but having watched his career at UT there was little doubt that he would find a place as a solid rotation piece and have a long NBA career. Guy was a leader and a baller in college, and despite being a tweener is the kind of 'glue guy' that good teams always seem to have.

12+ ppg as a freshman and 15+ ppg as a sophomore. Grant Williams was definitely easy to identify as a legit NBA talent. My only problem with him (and still to this day) is that he lacks definable skills. He brings a lot intangibly, but his basketball traits are just undefined.

3 years into the league and he's still undefinable:
- 12.2% defensive rebounding (bad on the glass)
- 6.9% assist (doesn't move the ball)
- 1.2% steal (doesn't generate takeaways)
- 2.7% block (an okay shotblocker)
- 36.9% from three, 77.5% from free throw (decent percentages but no volume at either)

[mjkvol]

I remember Grant Williams getting killed by draft prognosticators, but having watched his career at UT there was little doubt that he would find a place as a solid rotation piece and have a long NBA career. Guy was a leader and a baller in college, and despite being a tweener is the kind of 'glue guy' that good teams always seem to have.

12+ ppg as a freshman and 15+ ppg as a sophomore. Grant Williams was definitely easy to identify as a legit NBA talent. My only problem with him (and still to this day) is that he lacks definable skills. He brings a lot intangibly, but his basketball traits are just undefined.

3 years into the league and he's still undefinable:
- 12.2% defensive rebounding (bad on the glass)
- 6.9% assist (doesn't move the ball)
- 1.2% steal (doesn't generate takeaways)
- 2.7% block (an okay shotblocker)
- 36.9% from three, 77.5% from free throw (decent percentages but no volume at either)

The lack of definable skills is exactly why I didn't see him going any earlier than late 1st, and the 'tangibility' (if you will) is why I believed he would stick in the league as a 'glue guy' type. He was the same player at UT, but just had a knack for making big plays and was never scared of the big moment.

[brannigan73]

Imagine instead of Tobias Harris we had Jae Crowder, Bobby Portis, and Tyus Jones. We would be way better lol. Harris makes 32 million dollars. Those three guys make less then half of that combined. What a freaking waste of salary lol. This team has been mismanaged so badly it makes you want to cry.

[Mik317]

It took Grant a few years too

[Kobblehead]

Everyone in the trade threads on the board clamoring for toughness, rebounding, and P.J. Tuckerish or Draymond Greenish play can get a lot of what they seek from Purdue's Trevion Williams. He was the heart and soul of that team and provides great rebounding, elite positional passing, and a lot of dirty work in terms of screens and hustle. If he goes undrafted, he'd be a nice guy to bring to camp to compete with Paul Reed.

[Kobblehead]

I wonder if the Jazz are going to be the dopey team that drafts Kofi Cockburn. They are, afterall, the team that took Azubuike.

[Mik317]

Everyone in the trade threads on the board clamoring for toughness, rebounding, and P.J. Tuckerish or Draymond Greenish play can get a lot of what they seek from Purdue's Trevion Williams. He was the heart and soul of that team and provides great rebounding, elite positional passing, and a lot of dirty work in terms of screens and hustle. If he goes undrafted, he'd be a nice guy to bring to camp to compete with Paul Reed.

he feels like a guy GS gets to learn from Draymond

[FireMorey]

Apparently the Sixers will get the 1st rounder this year and lose it next year. They gave the Nets their choice and Bobby Marks reported the nets will defer it to next year. Nets have until June 1st to decide though officially.

[Negrodamus]

Everyone in the trade threads on the board clamoring for toughness, rebounding, and P.J. Tuckerish or Draymond Greenish play can get a lot of what they seek from Purdue's Trevion Williams. He was the heart and soul of that team and provides great rebounding, elite positional passing, and a lot of dirty work in terms of screens and hustle. If he goes undrafted, he'd be a nice guy to bring to camp to compete with Paul Reed.

I like his versatility, but man is he unathletic. Like, I get Dray was a chubby boi out of Mich St, but few of those guys have the mental fortitude to turn into above average athletes. He’s def interesting as a late 2nd or beyond though.

[stormi]

Would love to take a flyer on Kenneth Lofton Jr just to see what ends up happening with him.

[Kobblehead]

Apparently the Sixers will get the 1st rounder this year and lose it next year. They gave the Nets their choice and Bobby Marks reported the nets will defer it to next year. Nets have until June 1st to decide though officially.

Trying not to get too excited, but this would be fantastic news, if true.

I'm seeing Jaden Hardy mocked at #27 and Bryce McGowens mocked at #32 and assuming we'd have our pick of the two. Each have star upside, IMO and are highly skilled scorers.

[Kobblehead]

Would love to take a flyer on Kenneth Lofton Jr just to see what ends up happening with him.

I would love him on the Eagles. All the natural athleticism in that frame and he could be the next Jordan Malaita if Jeff Stoutland taught him some technique.

[Kobblehead]

Spoiler:

[stormi]

Would love to take a flyer on Kenneth Lofton Jr just to see what ends up happening with him.

I would love him on the Eagles. All the natural athleticism in that frame and he could be the next Jordan Malaita if Jeff Stoutland taught him some technique.

For once in your life please stop trolling

[Negrodamus]

Apparently the Sixers will get the 1st rounder this year and lose it next year. They gave the Nets their choice and Bobby Marks reported the nets will defer it to next year. Nets have until June 1st to decide though officially.

Trying not to get too excited, but this would be fantastic news, if true.

I'm seeing Jaden Hardy mocked at #27 and Bryce McGowens mocked at #32 and assuming we'd have our pick of the two. Each have star upside, IMO and are highly skilled scorers.

It's going to be packaged with Maxey for Bradley Beal so we can have old Maxey instead of young Maxey.

[Negrodamus]

I remember Grant Williams getting killed by draft prognosticators, but having watched his career at UT there was little doubt that he would find a place as a solid rotation piece and have a long NBA career. Guy was a leader and a baller in college, and despite being a tweener is the kind of 'glue guy' that good teams always seem to have.

He was under my “acceptable” picks that year. +10 AST%, +2 STL%, +80% FT. Hit all analytics I liked. Eye test was just ok. Couldn’t understand people liking Scholfirld over him during the process.

I'm guessing that watching him game in and game out at UT might have improved your eye test rating. Listen, I thought he was the kind of kid who someone might steal late 1st / early 2nd, but I didn't see him going any higher than that due to his tweener size.

I just remember thinking Grant would have a long career in the league while Schofield (who I loved at UT) might not even make it. I was hoping the Sixers would take him or that Boston wouldn't, but the pick made complete sense for them.

Never expected him to shoot 18 threes in a playoff game though. My goodness.

[Kobblehead]

Would love to take a flyer on Kenneth Lofton Jr just to see what ends up happening with him.

I would love him on the Eagles. All the natural athleticism in that frame and he could be the next Jordan Malaita if Jeff Stoutland taught him some technique.

For once in your life please stop trolling

I thought you were trolling !

[mjkvol]

He was under my “acceptable” picks that year. +10 AST%, +2 STL%, +80% FT. Hit all analytics I liked. Eye test was just ok. Couldn’t understand people liking Scholfirld over him during the process.

I'm guessing that watching him game in and game out at UT might have improved your eye test rating. Listen, I thought he was the kind of kid who someone might steal late 1st / early 2nd, but I didn't see him going any higher than that due to his tweener size.

I just remember thinking Grant would have a long career in the league while Schofield (who I loved at UT) might not even make it. I was hoping the Sixers would take him or that Boston wouldn't, but the pick made complete sense for them.

Never expected him to shoot 18 threes in a playoff game though. My goodness.

No argument.