Fantasy Trade Thread

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Well, I personally love the idea of Murray here. You can play a three-guard lineup with him, Melton, and Maxey, that's no problem. People are on him about his defense but I think Nick Nurse would have no problem getting him to defend with some urgency again. If he was a better three point shooter, he'd be a superstar in this league. It's really the only thing scaring people away because he's got the size to guard three positions on the floor. If there was ever a Nick Nurse type of guard it's Dejounte Murray. Clearly, Nurse values defensive effort along with players that have the athletic attributes to do so, but can also survive on offense. It's why we haven't seen Jaden Springer or KJ Martin. Neither player can survive on offense but for a small stretch.

If we're going to trade for a player that is a very good fit with Tyrese Maxey, then I can't think of a better available guard than Dejounte Murray.

[Monix]

I've heard it discussed that Murray's defense has really fallen off and that one of the reasons things haven't gone well with ATL is that he doesn't defend the 2/3 well, his prior success came defending 1s - if he doesn't fit well next to Trae, he won't fit well next to Maxey.

[PhillyFan11]

Morris, Korkmaz, KJ Martin and 3 2nd’s for PJ Washington and Cody Martin

Washington is having a down year, but if he can improve with Nurse/a better team he would be a nice pairing with Batum at PF and can start next year. Martin provides another perimeter defender off the bench. Minimal cost in terms of assets and both under control for multiple years.

[M2J]

I've heard it discussed that Murray's defense has really fallen off and that one of the reasons things haven't gone well with ATL is that he doesn't defend the 2/3 well, his prior success came defending 1s - if he doesn't fit well next to Trae, he won't fit well next to Maxey.

That's incorrect. Maxey is bigger than Trae, definitely stronger, quicker and has played better defense this year. I'd say a reason for the improved defense over the recent stretch in December on. Trae doesn't even try and can be thrown around and isn't even particularly quick at all.... Super skilled offensive player though.

Dejounte is truly a similar defensive player to Melton. Disruptive, deflecting, rebounds well, steals.... In his current system maybe even more undisciplined than Melton in terms of biting on fakes and gambling. However, I will not believe that he's a true defensive liability, but we know he's not a guy that can single handedly fix your perimeter defense, especially when asked to be a 2nd option offensively. Philly doesn't need that from him either. He's not a great point of attack defender, but again he'd be fine

[the_process]

Morris, Korkmaz, KJ Martin and 3 2nd’s for PJ Washington and Cody Martin

Washington is having a down year, but if he can improve with Nurse/a better team he would be a nice pairing with Batum at PF and can start next year. Martin provides another perimeter defender off the bench. Minimal cost in terms of assets and both under control for multiple years.

Charlotte is going to want at least a 1st for PJ.

Harris, Morris, Korkmaz, 26 PHI 1st, 24 NYK 2nd, 29' POR 2nd for Hayward, Washington, and Martin. Sixers also get under the tax.

If Charlotte wanted to keep Martin and dump Bouknight instead, they could take him into the Harden TPE. Which would
mean, I believe, that new 8M Morris and 5M Korkmaz TPEs would be created. Some more flexibility.

[Negrodamus]

I think I could be talked into Murray since he’s still relatively young and on a fairly bargain deal.

[Jailblazers7]

Players seem to hate playing with Trae Young so part of me is willing to give Murray a pass for his poor defensive effort. Trae is the leader of the org & sets the tone in a negative way.

I do think Murray is a knucklehead tho which might be the biggest reason to avoid him. His ego seems to be bigger than his talent which is never a good sign.

[Ball4life32]

Players seem to hate playing with Trae Young so part of me is willing to give Murray a pass for his poor defensive effort. Trae is the leader of the org & sets the tone in a negative way.

I do think Murray is a knucklehead tho which might be the biggest reason to avoid him. His ego seems to be bigger than his talent which is never a good sign.

The isn’t true in any facet or form.

[Jailblazers7]

Players seem to hate playing with Trae Young so part of me is willing to give Murray a pass for his poor defensive effort. Trae is the leader of the org & sets the tone in a negative way.

I do think Murray is a knucklehead tho which might be the biggest reason to avoid him. His ego seems to be bigger than his talent which is never a good sign.

The isn’t true in any facet or form.

The consistently terrible team chemistry, constant locker room drama, poor effort on court, and players looking to get traded is all the evidence I need.

[Ball4life32]

Players seem to hate playing with Trae Young so part of me is willing to give Murray a pass for his poor defensive effort. Trae is the leader of the org & sets the tone in a negative way.

I do think Murray is a knucklehead tho which might be the biggest reason to avoid him. His ego seems to be bigger than his talent which is never a good sign.

The isn’t true in any facet or form.

The consistently terrible team chemistry, constant locker room drama, poor effort on court, and players looking to get traded is all the evidence I need.

There aren’t any hawks players looking to get traded and if they were it hasn’t been because of Trae. Too many things have been overblown by the media according to anonymous nba executives.

Trae is putting up 11+ apg with elite playmaking analytics but players hate playing with that? Hawks problem is defense but they’ve been bad on defense with or without Trae this year.

Players seem to hate playing with Trae Young so part of me is willing to give Murray a pass for his poor defensive effort. Trae is the leader of the org & sets the tone in a negative way.

I do think Murray is a knucklehead tho which might be the biggest reason to avoid him. His ego seems to be bigger than his talent which is never a good sign.

The isn’t true in any facet or form.

Would love to hear your perspective as a Hawks fan, does a deal with the following framework sound realistic to you?

ATL: Hunter, Murray
PHI: Harris, Springer, worst HOU/OKC/LAC '26 pick, LAC '29 pick swap. PHI '30 pick.

Basically a fringe all-star forward with some veteran leadership, on an overvalued contract, but expiring. With cap situation around the league this summer there's certainly potential for him to resign on a team-friendly contract with his bird rights. In addition an offensively limited, but fantastic defensive 21-year old guard. And to basically return the same amount of picks you have sent to SAS for Murray, with the LAC and PHI high upside plays due to current roster construction.

I don’t think the value is terrible but I don’t think hawks want picks that far out.

If chemistry isn’t an issue, then it’s a bit concerning that the Hawks are as bad as they are with the amount of vets they have and on year, what, 6 of Trae Young?

5th in offensive efficiency 27th in defensive efficiency.
Not just half court defense but transition defense and bad defensive rebounding. But they also went on a L streak after losing Jalen Johnson. (Just came back from inj)

[Kolkmania]

Double.

[Negrodamus]

If chemistry isn’t an issue, then it’s a bit concerning that the Hawks are as bad as they are with the amount of vets they have and on year, what, 6 of Trae Young?

[Stanford]

It's definitely time to strike for Murray. The Hawks are a chemistry disaster and their guys hate playing with Trae. There are a bunch of players who would thrive away from that toxic environment, Murray included!

[Kolkmania]

The isn’t true in any facet or form.

Would love to hear your perspective as a Hawks fan, does a deal with the following framework sound realistic to you?

ATL: Hunter, Murray
PHI: Harris, Springer, worst HOU/OKC/LAC '26 pick, LAC '29 pick swap. PHI '30 pick.

Basically a fringe all-star forward with some veteran leadership, on an overvalued contract, but expiring. With cap situation around the league this summer there's certainly potential for him to resign on a team-friendly contract with his bird rights. In addition an offensively limited, but fantastic defensive 21-year old guard. And to basically return the same amount of picks you have sent to SAS for Murray, with the LAC and PHI high upside plays due to current roster construction.

I don’t think the value is terrible but I don’t think hawks want picks that far out.

Hmm, if an opposing fan is not completely dismissing the possibility, we might be onto something here .

If that would be the case, there might be a team in the league with an abundance of picks in the upcoming years that would like to spread these out for more future picks, with perhaps some more upside. OKC/UTA for example.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Maybe turn Kj Martin,Springer and Bamba into a useful young vet??

[M2J]

Someone find the Hawks' version of JRoy.

[MoeGreene]

Sixers: Grant & Simons
Portland: Harris, Melton, Springer, Martin, 26 Rd 1, 28 Rd 1, 24 Rd 2 (2)

[JRoy]

Sixers: Grant & Simons
Portland: Harris, Melton, Springer, Martin, 26 Rd 1, 28 Rd 1, 24 Rd 2 (2)

I don’t hate this for POR.

[the_process]

Sixers: Grant & Simons
Portland: Harris, Melton, Springer, Martin, 26 Rd 1, 28 Rd 1, 24 Rd 2 (2)

Little tweak:

NYK get Simons
PHI gets Fournier, Grimes, and Grant
POR gets Harris, Melton, Korkmaz, Martin, 26 OKC 1st, 29 PHI 1st w/ LAC swap, 24 NYK 2nd, 29 POR 2nd returned

[MoeGreene]

You really like Fournier and Grimes?

Idk, I have more faith in Simons

Either way sounds good though.

Sixers: Grant & Simons
Portland: Harris, Melton, Springer, Martin, 26 Rd 1, 28 Rd 1, 24 Rd 2 (2)

Little tweak:

NYK get Simons
PHI gets Fournier, Grimes, and Grant
POR gets Harris, Melton, Korkmaz, Martin, 26 OKC 1st, 29 PHI 1st w/ LAC swap, 24 NYK 2nd, 29 POR 2nd returned