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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#721 » by ankle420breaker » Sun Sep 1, 2024 9:29 pm

McCain will be fine for what he is. Hopefully he adopts RIP Hamilton habits and learns how to use perpetual motion off the ball. Make their defenders chase you the whole time and free up enough space to get some high percentage clean looks.

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#722 » by 76ciology » Mon Sep 2, 2024 2:59 am

WentzerWuver wrote:
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Justin Edwards and David Jones looked good. On the other hand, McCain's shot continues to fall short, and he struggles significantly against NBA level length and physicality.
McCain was an open knockdown 3 man at Duke. Not his fault he was being pressured by SL players but I think he will learn to overcome that. Still, his signature quick release is made for the pros.

https://youtu.be/l-3lgYh4KAk?si=N6MZ1Dij3ze4YDs5


Right now, he’s at his best when given some space, such as against a zone defense, in transition when the defense is on their heels or scrambling, or when his defender is drawn away to help elsewhere. But he's not playable if defenders don't give him any space. He's struggling with NBA caliber length and physicality.

I don't have high expectations for him, whether he's good or bad. I just don't see him getting any playing time this season. I think we're set with either Reggie or Lowry at the point guard position, and Maxey or Eric Gordon at shooting guard. And we’re likely going to start and end games with Maxey at PG and one of our wings at SG. Jeff Dowtin is even likely ahead of him in our depth chart at PG.

That said, he has more than a year to figure out how to get his shots off consistently. At his floor, I see him as a 16-18 ppg guy, filling a role similar to JJ Redick or Seth Curry. This seems to align with what Morey envisions for him, a role that's a far from what we've seen in Rico Hines workouts and Summer League.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#723 » by 76ciology » Mon Sep 2, 2024 4:12 am

Vegas has given the Sixers the third best odds to win the championship, with the Celtics ranked first and OKC at second.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#724 » by Stanford » Mon Sep 2, 2024 1:02 pm

I do think it's too soon for OKC. The media hasn't even declared SGA a failure yet.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#725 » by Mik317 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 1:56 am

Stanford wrote:I do think it's too soon for OKC. The media hasn't even declared SGA a failure yet.

he gets to the line a lot

so its probably coming
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#726 » by Jailblazers7 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 2:13 pm

I think we’re due for an SGA & Brunson backlash. Their rise to superstardom was fun but they’re the next generation of foul grifters.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#727 » by Murray_17 » Wed Sep 4, 2024 2:22 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:I think we’re due for an SGA & Brunson backlash. Their rise to superstardom was fun but they’re the next generation of foul grifters.



I think the Knicks are a great team right now but Brunson is the only guy who can ISO efficiently there, so he's gonna get some ugly games on his next Playoff run.

It's not gonna help him either that the coach is Thibs.

SGA at least can take turns with Jalen Williams if it's necessary and having Chet helps on regards to opening lanes for him,
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#728 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Sep 4, 2024 2:42 am

76ciology wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
76ciology wrote:

Justin Edwards and David Jones looked good. On the other hand, McCain's shot continues to fall short, and he struggles significantly against NBA level length and physicality.
McCain was an open knockdown 3 man at Duke. Not his fault he was being pressured by SL players but I think he will learn to overcome that. Still, his signature quick release is made for the pros.

https://youtu.be/l-3lgYh4KAk?si=N6MZ1Dij3ze4YDs5


Right now, he’s at his best when given some space, such as against a zone defense, in transition when the defense is on their heels or scrambling, or when his defender is drawn away to help elsewhere. But he's not playable if defenders don't give him any space. He's struggling with NBA caliber length and physicality.

I don't have high expectations for him, whether he's good or bad. I just don't see him getting any playing time this season. I think we're set with either Reggie or Lowry at the point guard position, and Maxey or Eric Gordon at shooting guard. And we’re likely going to start and end games with Maxey at PG and one of our wings at SG. Jeff Dowtin is even likely ahead of him in our depth chart at PG.

That said, he has more than a year to figure out how to get his shots off consistently. At his floor, I see him as a 16-18 ppg guy, filling a role similar to JJ Redick or Seth Curry. This seems to align with what Morey envisions for him, a role that's a far from what we've seen in Rico Hines workouts and Summer League.
Agreed but it seems like Jared will be part of the new opening intro for Sixers games with his millions of followers turning in, cha ching!

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#729 » by ivysixer2000 » Wed Sep 4, 2024 6:40 am

Murray_17 wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:I think we’re due for an SGA & Brunson backlash. Their rise to superstardom was fun but they’re the next generation of foul grifters.



I think the Knicks are a great team right now but Brunson is the only guy who can ISO efficiently there, so he's gonna get some ugly games on his next Playoff run.

It's not gonna help him either that the coach is Thibs.

SGA at least can take turns with Jalen Williams if it's necessary and having Chet helps on regards to opening lanes for him,


The Knicks have built a great roster to be honest, I remember when they sucked and they were a joke. What they do with Randle is key, as a healthy Jojo will go for 50 on them easy now. Robinson will have 9 fouls.

To start the season, we have alot of tough games. If we actually win those games, then it will get attention that we might not want. Chemistry will be the biggest problem for this team since they haven't played together. Lowery goes from a starter in the playoffs last year to barely playing at all.

If we can be patient and get chemistry, then you guys will be partying on Broad Street.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#730 » by mjkvol » Wed Sep 4, 2024 9:42 pm

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I think the Knicks are a great team right now


Great? Have the standards dropped that far?

How on earth do you classify the '82-83 Sixers or the '84-85 Lakers?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#731 » by elchengue20 » Wed Sep 4, 2024 11:16 pm

If our stars are healthy (big big IF) we are going to be a very dangerous team. It's our best chance at making the ECF since '18.

On paper we are for sure better than the Knicks, Bucks and we can give Boston a run for their money.

My issue is i have a hard time believing a team led by Embiid and Paul George is going to win a championship.

Maxey is a real dog tho, my only hope is him going '06 D-Wade mode and taking control of the offense late in the Playoffs.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#732 » by 76ciology » Thu Sep 5, 2024 7:09 am

It's difficult to bet against the Knicks, given how important it is for the league to see them succeed. Just look at how many favorable calls they received last season.

However, talent-wise, I don’t believe they’re better this season. I think Hartenstein’s value is comparable to Mikal Bridges, who I find to be overrated. Additionally, they've lost the crucial depth at the center position that previously gave Embiid trouble in the playoffs.

It seems they didn’t anticipate us ending up with our current roster. They made a big gamble early on, opting to build a team that competes against teams like the Celtics rather than the Bucks or Sixers. While they may be better equipped to face the Celtics, they will likely struggle to match up against us.

The Knicks also have a lot of overlapping talents. If they play Mikal Bridges, OG Anunoby, and Julius Randle together, it raises the question of what roles players like Isaiah Hartenstein and Dante DiVincenzo will fill. Will these two be more effective with reduced roles, or will their contributions be limited by the crowded rotation?

And is Josh Hart really that good or was he just on fire in this year’s playoffs?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#733 » by Sixerscan » Thu Sep 5, 2024 2:35 pm

The Knicks are good, they also traded basically all of their picks for Bridges so this is more or less what they are for the next few years. They'll probably make a minor trade for Jonas or some other mediocre center but nothing huge unless they start swapping out guys that play a lot for them.

Hopefully everything finally goes right for us this year as is but the Sixers still do have the Harden trade/later Sixers picks lever to pull.

It wouldn't surprise me if whatever center they get ends up starting/finishing games for them because IDK how much you can play Robinson when he shoots sub 50% from the FT line.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#734 » by 76ciology » Thu Sep 5, 2024 3:30 pm

Rico hines got a new video with Jared McCain and the rest of our SL guys. Seems like KJ Martin can shoot corner 3s and Dowtin looks ready
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#735 » by zaz102 » Thu Sep 5, 2024 4:34 pm

Can Offseason KJ shoot 3s as well as Offseason Ben?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#736 » by elchengue20 » Thu Sep 5, 2024 10:04 pm

zaz102 wrote:Can Offseason KJ shoot 3s as well as Offseason Ben?


Highly doubt it, Offseason Ben was on peak Bruce Bowen level shooting corner 3's.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#737 » by mjkvol » Thu Sep 5, 2024 10:43 pm

76ciology wrote:It's difficult to bet against the Knicks, given how important it is for the league to see them succeed. Just look at how many favorable calls they received last season.

However, talent-wise, I don’t believe they’re better this season. I think Hartenstein’s value is comparable to Mikal Bridges, who I find to be overrated. Additionally, they've lost the crucial depth at the center position that previously gave Embiid trouble in the playoffs.


Man, you said a mouthful with that first sentence. Sleazeball Silver & Co. desperately want and need legit big time contenders on an annual basis in LA and NY, and manufacturing "bubble" playoffs and ridiculous in-season tournaments is no substitute for real playoff runs to the finals.

My thought since the end of last season was that the Knicks would be making a big mistake letting Hartenstein walk because of the huge role he played in their resurgence. Then they doubled down by trading the motherlode for a role player, as good as Bridges is and as much as I hated the Sixers trading him.

They lost a physical presence who fit Thibs' scheme like a glove, and now have way too much duplication on their roster. If they can fool some sucker into taking Randle for another big to go with Robinson, I would change my mind on them. Until then, they're very good but incomplete as far as being a serious championship contenders.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#738 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Sep 5, 2024 11:00 pm

I don't want to get into a fight on here with anyone so I'll leave it short.
Jalen Brunson is one of, if not the best pure point guard in the league. Combined with the supporting cast he has to work with, I think New York is right there with us which is still a half step below Boston. I think the Knicks major mistake will be letting Hartenstein walk and not replacing him. It's going to cost them in the postseason. Still, with that being said, Jalen Brunson is always going to give them a fighting chance. That is all, I don't want to fight nor do I desire to be insulted for having an opinion.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#739 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Sep 5, 2024 11:02 pm

The Lakers have barely been relevant since Kobe declined & the Knicks have like 2 good seasons in 25 years. I don’t think the league particularly cares who wins as evidenced by the new CBA that incentivizes parity.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#740 » by 76ciology » Sat Sep 7, 2024 2:18 am

I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.
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