2025 Fantasy Trade Thread

[the_process]

#3/Embiid for LaMelo/M. Williams

LaMelo/McCain/Butler
Maxey/Grimes/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards/Council
George/(TMLE)/(#35)
M. Willliams/Bona/Drummond

Count me in.

[Iscull]

Does anyone know when the player options are exercised or in effect? Curious when we could get Gordon/Drummond off the books..

[the_process]

Does anyone know when the player options are exercised or in effect? Curious when we could get Gordon/Drummond off the books..

https://hoopshype.com/lists/free-agency-important-dates-to-watch-in-the-nba-market/

Looks like Gordon, Drummond, and Oubre all have to decide by the 29th.

Morey on the Ricky seemed to think they were all opting in.

[stormi]

It’s pretty adorable that some of you think Embiid and/or PG are going to increase their value going forward. Hopefully Santa and the Tooth Fairy leave you guys good presents.

However you feel about the situation, it's just poor process to trade your 'star' players at their absolute crater value wise. You risk everything for very little actual reward.

There's nothing about these hypothetical packages that we couldn't get next summer as well.

On this, we disagree. Assuming status quo, next summer everyone is asking for 1sts (plural) to take those albatrosses on.

I do think PG should be somewhat better, though, so I would be in less of a rush to move him. The risk is if the team goes to poop, PG could gonna check out again.

You're envisioning another clear bottom five -> seven finish next season?

[the_process]

However you feel about the situation, it's just poor process to trade your 'star' players at their absolute crater value wise. You risk everything for very little actual reward.

There's nothing about these hypothetical packages that we couldn't get next summer as well.

On this, we disagree. Assuming status quo, next summer everyone is asking for 1sts (plural) to take those albatrosses on.

I do think PG should be somewhat better, though, so I would be in less of a rush to move him. The risk is if the team goes to poop, PG could gonna check out again.

You're envisioning another clear bottom five -> seven finish next season?

Well, what I meant by that was Embiid and PGs play staying the same.

As for the team as a whole? I think they will be fighting to tread water this season, but not exactly sure how I see them ending up. Lots of variables still.

[stormi]

On this, we disagree. Assuming status quo, next summer everyone is asking for 1sts (plural) to take those albatrosses on.

I do think PG should be somewhat better, though, so I would be in less of a rush to move him. The risk is if the team goes to poop, PG could gonna check out again.

You're envisioning another clear bottom five -> seven finish next season?

Well, what I meant by that was Embiid and PGs play staying the same.

As for the team as a whole? I think they will be fighting to tread water this season, but not exactly sure how I see them ending up. Lots of variables still.

I don't hate the thought process, but I just ardently disagree.

I think George is the easiest candidate ever to bounce back to the mean. The squad was hampered from essentially day one, George tweaked his knee before he could even get going and by the time he got back players were already beat up and checked out. I still don't think George will ever have plus value going forward on that contract, but I think he can play well enough on a team that's doing better to solidify him a neutral asset.

Embiid was also never right all season. Got injured in 2024 halting what was going to be a unanimous MVP campaign. Rushed back to help us even make the playoffs and was all world against the Knicks. Goes to the Olympics and balls out while injured.

Regarding the arthroscopic surgery, I'm not sure people understand that this was a relatively minor exploratory/clean up procedure. Although it isn't something you should expect to “fix” his condition, it should make the knee at least bearable, like Kawhi.

I don't think Embiid gets back to top five levels again, but he could very easily be viewed a top 30 player around the league again after next season, and that might be enough for some GM around the league with a team right on the cusp of championship to toss a godfather offer our way.

tl;dr: i completely get wanting to dispose of Embiid and George's contracts asap, but I think it's all risk for very little reward as we aren't contending in the next five years anyways.

[davesilver]

Proposed on the last RTRS:
JJJ & Cole Anthony for Maxey

Would you rather have the following (say we draft VJ at 3):
McCain Grimes George JJJ Embiid
Anthony VJ Oubre/Edwards Yabu(?) Bona

OR

Trade down with New Orleans for Herb & #7 and pick up CMB:
Maxey Grimes George Herb Embiid
McCain Edwards CMB Oubre Bona

Think slight lean towards the first with VJ's upside

[the_process]

You're envisioning another clear bottom five -> seven finish next season?

Well, what I meant by that was Embiid and PGs play staying the same.

As for the team as a whole? I think they will be fighting to tread water this season, but not exactly sure how I see them ending up. Lots of variables still.

I don't hate the thought process, but I just ardently disagree.

I think George is the easiest candidate ever to bounce back to the mean. The squad was hampered from essentially day one, George tweaked his knee before he could even get going and by the time he got back players were already beat up and checked out. I still don't think George will ever have plus value going forward on that contract, but I think he can play well enough on a team that's doing better to solidify him a neutral asset.

Embiid was also never right all season. Got injured in 2024 halting what was going to be a unanimous MVP campaign. Rushed back to help us even make the playoffs and was all world against the Knicks. Goes to the Olympics and balls out while injured.

Regarding the arthroscopic surgery, I'm not sure people understand that this was a relatively minor exploratory/clean up procedure. Although it isn't something you should expect to “fix” his condition, it should make the knee at least bearable, like Kawhi.

I don't think Embiid gets back to top five levels again, but he could very easily be viewed a top 30 player around the league again after next season, and that might be enough for some GM around the league with a team right on the cusp of championship to toss a godfather offer our way.

tl;dr: i completely get wanting to dispose of Embiid and George's contracts asap, but I think it's all risk for very little reward as we aren't contending in the next five years anyways.

I agree with the not contending part.

And I also agree George could easily have a much better year and increase his value.

Where I disagree is Embiid. After losing to Boston, he missed half a year and then got bounced early by the Knicks. In the Olympics, save the one game against Serbia, he looked washed. Last year, he barely played and had negative impact stats. The scope basically does nothing, so it's not going to help his pain tolerance and his whiny moping demeanor. I'm sure he will try to play some, but he won't be able to do what he used to do and his knee will bother him and his ego won't let him accept a lesser role and so he will sit out most of the year again. At that point, he has like 3 years 180M left. No one is taking that deal without massive incentive after another missed season.

However, you deal him now, the other sucker team still has "hope" he "could come back". I realize I'm pretty much the only one who is completely out on Embiid.

[the_process]

Proposed on the last RTRS:
JJJ & Cole Anthony for Maxey

Yes, but I don't think MEM goes for that.

Trade down with New Orleans for Herb & #7 and pick up CMB:
Maxey Grimes George Herb Embiid
McCain Edwards CMB Oubre Bona

If NOP throws in 23 and Fleming is still there, I probably do that. But I'm not drafting CMB at 7. Cannot take a complete non-shooter with a lottery pick. We've seen what complete non-shooters do to your offense in this day and age.

[mjkvol]

I have a feeling we are going to trade the pick and go for a win now path, Daryl might not think he has 2-3 years to make things work. He is incentivized to go for it, especially in a weak East.

Ace cancelling his workout looks like he is being a diva, and he very well might be, but I think it's more that his agent has got wind that either the Sixers are locked in on Edgecombe if they can't find enough value in a trade and doesn't want his client to pointlessly meet with the team that has no interest in taking him. Sixers want to do it to increase any leverage they might have in a trade.

What the Sixers do will tell you a lot about whether Daryl thinks Embiid has anything left in the tank. If they stay at 3 and take Edgecombe, I think Daryl knows this team has no shot at a title.

Who Says No?

Rockets Get: Suns 2031 1st (from Jazz), Eric Gordon
Sixers Get: #5 pick (Kon Knueppel), Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore
Jazz Get: #3 Pick, Andre Drummond

What is in it for the Rockets?