2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

76ciology · Post #741 » by **76ciology** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:31 pm

Wow future Sixer :lol:

Kobblehead · Post #742 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:27 pm

Fischella wrote:Hampton is going to drop and go late 1st early 2nd

Green will indeed go around mid 1st, maybe maybe he slides to early 20s

I'd not touch Hampton if i were Phila

Why, what's the problem with Hampton? Offcourt stuff?

No-Man · Post #743 » by **No-Man** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:33 pm

He is seen as a guy who would contribute, if anything, on his 2nd or 3rd team, no one is going to touch him that high because he needs a ton of work

Kobblehead · Post #744 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:39 pm

Mik317 wrote:I think Kobble exaggerates a bit but yeah.

team needs dudes who can dribble around screens and take and hopefully make shots. Alec Burks is a spazoid who can't pass but look at his value on this ass team lol.

Shot creation is the skill we lack. Jimmy is reluctant to shoot 3s but he can and will dribble into the paint and create shots...for him or others or get to the line.

we need that.

My current target based off of youtube views lol is Kira Lewis Jr.

Kira will be a sieve, defensively, but he'll definitely help with the shotcreation woes. He really is fantastic at scoring off the dribble. And he actually has handle to get all the way to the rim. He can actually penetrate.

His size and defense, though. Ugh. He's going to get picked on relentlessly in a playoff-intensity game ala Ja Morant was in that play-in game. It's hard for me to fully wrap my arms around him as a pick. He'll fill one need but not be the full solution that we need. We need non-exploitable defenders that can create their own shot. Not just tiny dudes that can create and get abused on the other end.

Kobblehead · Post #745 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:46 pm

Fischella wrote:He is seen as a guy who would contribute, if anything, on his 2nd or 3rd team, no one is going to touch him that high because he needs a ton of work

I'll happily take him at #21 if other teams think he's too far away from contributing.

I think he excels in the only two traits that I think matter (defense and scoring off the dribble). I have no problem being patient with his jumper and waiting for him to learn how to score more efficiently.

I think Hampton is better than all the college 1-and-dones. Him falling as much as you think he will would be a huge gift for a playoff team.

Kobblehead · Post #746 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:50 pm

76ciology wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Wow future Sixer

I have this guy written down on my international list.

He's like a defensive version of Jokic. Definitely has the chance to be among the best players in the draft, down the line.

Only problem is that he's only 18 and barely 200 pounds soaking wet. So it's all guesswork with him until he becomes a man.

Kobblehead · Post #747 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:53 pm

Fischella wrote:he is 6'3 in shoes now, he grew an inch, he is also 180, he does have bad length but he is a good team defender

When I watch Terry, his body does seem weirdly long. Are we sure his length is bad? He seems like he has really long arms and legs. Like, he has the torso and head of a guy who would be 5'10", but the legs and arms of a dude who is 6'5".

No-Man · Post #748 » by **No-Man** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:56 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Fischella wrote:He is seen as a guy who would contribute, if anything, on his 2nd or 3rd team, no one is going to touch him that high because he needs a ton of work

I'll happily take him at #21 if other teams think he's too far away from contributing.

I think he excels in the only two traits that I think matter (defense and scoring off the dribble). I have no problem being patient with his jumper and waiting for him to learn how to score more efficiently.

I think Hampton is better than all the college 1-and-dones. Him falling as much as you think he will would be a huge gift for a playoff team.

Hampton is a terrible defender as of today and way worse than Lewis man

No-Man · Post #749 » by **No-Man** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:59 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Fischella wrote:he is 6'3 in shoes now, he grew an inch, he is also 180, he does have bad length but he is a good team defender

When I watch Terry, his body does seem weirdly long. Are we sure his length is bad? He seems like he has really long arms and legs. Like, he has the torso and head of a guy who would be 5'10", but the legs and arms of a dude who is 6'5".

yes, his length is bad, 6'2.5 wingspan

may be below 180 actually, but he has gained some, dunno somewhere between 170-175 I'd say

Kobblehead · Post #750 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:11 pm

Fischella wrote:Hampton is a terrible defender as of today and way worse than Lewis man

Other than lapses in concentration from time to time, I don't see anything wrong with his defense. His feet and hands are lightning quick and his reaction time is incredibly twitchy. I have zero doubts about him defensively.

He's not as elite as Killian Hayes, defensively, but he's definitely sound enough to be a plug and play NBA defender, in my eyes.

No-Man · Post #751 » by **No-Man** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:15 pm

lapses of concentration, shying away from contact, completely not understanding team defense and making the wrong rotations often times, bad D IQ, a weird bad frame/balance also so not sure if he can ever get there physically

He is quick, wouldn't call him incredibly twitchy, he is def getting roasted on D if he plays as a rookie, like no question

Kobblehead · Post #752 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:16 pm

Why do scouts view Hampton as needing a ton of work and falling in the draft but have LaMelo Ball in the conversation to go #1 overall? Doesn't make any sense. LaMelo is a far inferior athlete, a worse defender, a worse shooter, scores way more inefficiently and is way less likely to contribute to winning on his drafting team.

Kobblehead · Post #753 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:21 pm

Happy David Walters (Hampton's agent) represents a bunch of Boston Celtics. Danny Ainge is smart enough to realize he's a two-way star in the making. I'm going to be livid if the Celtics end up with Hampton and we're stuck with a tiny 160 pounder who can't defend.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #754 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:27 pm

If we pass on RJ Hampton at 21, I'm going to explode with anger. He's way too talented in my opinion to slip that far, but if he's there when we pick, then he absolutely needs to be the guy.

Kobblehead · Post #755 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:47 pm

I don't know what draft scouts are thinking. I think Hampton should go #2 behind Killian Hayes. If you took the twitchiness of Zach Lavine and combined the defense of Shai Alexander, you'd have R.J. Hampton.

Watch on YouTube

Him falling to #21 is outright craziness, in my eyes. Clearly among the best prospects in this year's draft.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #756 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:52 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I don't know what draft scouts are thinking. I think Hampton should go #2 behind Killian Hayes. If you took the twitchiness of Zach Lavine and combined the defense of Shai Alexander, you'd have R.J. Hampton.

Watch on YouTube

Him falling to #21 is outright craziness, in my eyes. Clearly among the best prospects in this year's draft.

He's got some Monta Ellis to his game too, but he's 6'5. The Lavine comparison is a good one too. He's a steal past the 10th pick. He's an absolute gem at 21 if he's there. I seriously doubt he will be though. His stock will rise in the next two months.

Kobblehead · Post #757 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:00 pm

Landing Hampton at #21 would be a franchise-saving draft selection for us. It would vault us right back into the title picture for the foreseeable future.

People laughed at the 2018 and 2020 Sixers, but they actually took the 2019 group serious because we had a two-way player on the wing that could score off the dribble (Jimmy Butler). Hampton would make us a team to be taken serious all over again.

Negrodamus · Post #758 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:05 pm

There's just no way we'd take him unless we have some wholesale changes to our FO. I think Zhaire was the exception because I feel this group is only going to draft older prospects in the first. I just don't see them taking a chance on a 19 year old ball dominant player at this point.

Kobblehead · Post #759 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:23 pm

Brett Brown has had a huge say in personnel since Bryan Colangelo left. He could be gone in a week. I would hope all previous approaches to the draft would be thrown out the window.

76ciology · Post #760 » by **76ciology** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:17 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Why do scouts view Hampton as needing a ton of work and falling in the draft but have LaMelo Ball in the conversation to go #1 overall? Doesn't make any sense. LaMelo is a far inferior athlete, a worse defender, a worse shooter, scores way more inefficiently and is way less likely to contribute to winning on his drafting team.

I could be wrong.

Because he is projected to be a scorer, so LaMelo can hide with being an assists guy as a PG. Hampton can’t hide if he can’t score.

Then when they met, LaMelo scored like 25 in one game and he had like 10 or 12pts.

I have Hampton over LaMelo also. But he has a lot of work. His shooting and his ISO skills need years of NBA training.