Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

[the_process]

How about this as the base for a 3-team trade?

76ers get win-now help with Murray and THJ, who fit with Embiid/Tobias time-line very well. Spurs finally get a star. Mavs get a good wing prospect at the cost of putting their team back 1-2 years.

76ers In: Tim Hardaway Jr, Dejounte Murray
- Murray/Maxey, THJ/Curry, Green/Thybulle, Tobias/Niang, Embiid/Drummond

Spurs In: Ben Simmons
- White/Jones, Walker/Forbes, Keldon/McDermott, Simmons/Diop, Poeltl/Eubanks

Mavericks In: Devin Vassell, Thad Young
- Luka/Brunson, Bullock/Ntilikina, Vassell/DFS, Young/Kleber, Porzingis/Powell

They could also add a 4th team... THJ > Heat, Duncan Robinson > 76ers.

Cutting the Mavs right out of that. Deal directly with San Antonio.

[ProcessDoctor]

Unrealistic but fun idea on December 15th...

Simmons/Harris/Shake/Reed for Murray/White/Thad/McDermmot/Vassell


Murray/Maxey/Korkmaz
White/Curry/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Vassell
Thad/Niang/McDermott
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

[76ciology]

Would you trade Ben Simmons and Maxey for Kawhi, if Kawhi agreed to play on our team for the rest of his career?

Kawhi would solve our size and go to guy issues.

[Tomjas]

Would you trade Ben Simmons and Maxey for Kawhi, if Kawhi agreed to play on our team for the rest of his career?

Kawhi would solve our size and go to guy issues.

Suggested it months ago

[Philly2good]

Would you trade Ben Simmons and Maxey for Kawhi, if Kawhi agreed to play on our team for the rest of his career?

Kawhi would solve our size and go to guy issues.

Yes of course...Can't see it happening though

[Kolkmania]

Been telling you guys we need some size right? Watch the Magic game and see how easy for Franz Wagner to score against us. And it’s not just this game.

I also told you that having a big frontcourt with a PF like Siakam or Sabonis isn’t a problem with Embiid. Those two are not shooters but they can shoot. And they run almost the same system and roster structure with us, a center who takes a lot of jumpers and dribble drive offense.

Our size is a bigger problem than our endless search for that alpha creator that may not come at all.

And it’s a good thing because what we need is cheaper, while we can be patient with Maxey’s development as alternate option to Embiid down the stretch.

We're a little thin on the forward spot right now, but how can you say that we need size above all after the Horford debacle? Adding a non-volume shooting forward next to Harris and Embiid is a guaranteed disaster in the PO.

Because the guys I mentioned plays heavy PF or are quicker and have proven to work well playing PF alongside a C (Gasol, Jokic or Turner) on a heavy drive and draw or heavy PnR offense.

If you have Maxey and Seth instead of Ben and Jrich, you also wouldnt have a problem with Biid and Al.

There’s no way you can win when your guards (Ben and Jrich) can’t shoot.

The problem isnt really about Al and Embiid. It’s Al and Embiid paired with the worst shooting backcourt in the history of the league.

Sure, but how do we acquire enough shooting (without being a total liability on the defensive end) if we use our main asset on a forward who thrives in the paint. I am not saying that we miss depth on the forward spot, but we shouldn't allocate the majority of our assets to fix it.

[76ciology]

We're a little thin on the forward spot right now, but how can you say that we need size above all after the Horford debacle? Adding a non-volume shooting forward next to Harris and Embiid is a guaranteed disaster in the PO.

Because the guys I mentioned plays heavy PF or are quicker and have proven to work well playing PF alongside a C (Gasol, Jokic or Turner) on a heavy drive and draw or heavy PnR offense.

If you have Maxey and Seth instead of Ben and Jrich, you also wouldnt have a problem with Biid and Al.

There’s no way you can win when your guards (Ben and Jrich) can’t shoot.

The problem isnt really about Al and Embiid. It’s Al and Embiid paired with the worst shooting backcourt in the history of the league.

Sure, but how do we acquire enough shooting (without being a total liability on the defensive end) if we use our main asset on a forward who thrives in the paint. I am not saying that we miss depth on the forward spot, but we shouldn't allocate the majority of our assets to fix it.

Btw, who are you referring?

Because Im talking about guys like Siakam, Jerami Grant or Sabonis in exchange for Ben. Im not trading Ben for Al Horford. And im quite confident that the guys I mention would make us a much improved defensive team while not hurting our dribble drive offense lead by Maxey and Seth.

And I think Al and Biid frontcourt can work if you have Seth and Maxey at your backcourt. Possibly Tobi or Green or Milton at SF. But I prefer the names of the guys I mentioned (Jerami, Grant or Sabonis)

[Kolkmania]

Because the guys I mentioned plays heavy PF or are quicker and have proven to work well playing PF alongside a C (Gasol, Jokic or Turner) on a heavy drive and draw or heavy PnR offense.

If you have Maxey and Seth instead of Ben and Jrich, you also wouldnt have a problem with Biid and Al.

There’s no way you can win when your guards (Ben and Jrich) can’t shoot.

The problem isnt really about Al and Embiid. It’s Al and Embiid paired with the worst shooting backcourt in the history of the league.

Sure, but how do we acquire enough shooting (without being a total liability on the defensive end) if we use our main asset on a forward who thrives in the paint. I am not saying that we miss depth on the forward spot, but we shouldn't allocate the majority of our assets to fix it.

Btw, who are you referring?

Because Im talking about guys like Siakam, Jerami Grant or Sabonis in exchange for Ben. Im not trading Ben for Al Horford. And im quite confident that the guys I mention would make us a much improved defensive team while not hurting our dribble drive offense lead by Maxey and Seth.

I know, but I am quite certain that an offense that is dependent on Maxey (current version, who knows who Maxey in his 5th season) and Curry will never reach anything significant.
We know that an excellent defense, with meh offense, can lead to a great regular season. However, we also know that the offensive struggles will cap our ceiling.

[mjkvol]

Would you trade Ben Simmons and Maxey for Kawhi, if Kawhi agreed to play on our team for the rest of his career?

Kawhi would solve our size and go to guy issues.

I love Maxey, but I do that deal in a nanosecond. Move Harris for a legit stretch big, find a PG between now and next off season,
add as many shooters as you can find, and maybe most of all find a coach that understands the game post-Warriors. That deal opens up a potentially legit championship window for the next three seasons.

[Murray_17]

I need some assurances about Kawhi tbf, guy is broken beyond belief right now and all of that with several seasons doing heavy minute restrictions.

Some of the recents comebacks of people like Durant are eye openers about how the medicine has been able to get some guys back, but Kawhi had two different serious injuries and his game is build around his strength to get to his spots (like Butler),i would want to see how he looks before comitting to a trade that could cripple us definitely.

Also, if Kawhi agree to play for us the rest of his career you already know his injuries got him lol

[Eyeamok]

Would you trade Ben Simmons and Maxey for Kawhi, if Kawhi agreed to play on our team for the rest of his career?

Kawhi would solve our size and go to guy issues.

You know that means that often we we would trotting out a team with no Kawhi and no Embiid. We would always be a 5th or 6th seed at best. The regular season would really not matter then.

[the_process]

Would you trade Ben Simmons and Maxey for Kawhi, if Kawhi agreed to play on our team for the rest of his career?

Kawhi would solve our size and go to guy issues.

I could be talked in or out of that deal.

It would be real tough on a team that already has Embiid.

You probably swing for the fences and hope for the best, though.

[Mik317]

it would be hard to trade Maxey and not get a PG back in return .

[SixthStreet]

It's a fun hypothetical, but Kawhi would never want to play here and will want out as soon as he can. That said if the question assumes he'll play for the Sixers until retirement it's not even a question. You swing for the (injury related) fences and let the chips fall where they do. Klutch clients on the next flight out.

I'm not always team injury risk but Leonard is one of the few that elevates the ceiling to multiple championships level.

[ProcessDoctor]

it would be hard to trade Maxey and not get a PG back in return .

Bro what are you so afraid of? Isaiah Thomas is still a free agent.

[Kobblehead]

it would be hard to trade Maxey and not get a PG back in return .

What PG play are we really losing, though?

Maxey is a phenomenal dribble penetrator. So losing that would suck. But it's not like he's a distributor that runs the offense. His assist percentage is barely higher than Embiid and Harris.

[freshie2]

Does Kawhi have any heart or health left??

[Fencer reregistered]

Celtics fan here. Any chance we could work something out without including Tatum or Brown? For instance, how about a 3-way with the Raps for Siakam?



This is assuming the Raps wouldn't be interested in Simmons cause him and Scottie Barnes would cancel each other out. The same goes for Scottie Barnes and Siakam, which is why plenty of Raps fans are ready to move on from Siakam.

PG: Maxey
SG: Seth
SF: Tobi
PF: Siakam
C: Embiid

6th man: Schroder

No deal - Brown or Tatum are the only players you have that are of interest. It's mighty convenient that your deal is asking the Sixers and Raps to part with their prime trade piece while you get a player who potentially makes you a contender while giving up only your garbage.

Actually, that's a horrible trade for the Celtics. If salaries, attitude and health were all equal, I'd trade Robert Williams for Simmons straight up, but the difference in value would be a lot less than most people probably assume. Factor health and attitude in, still assuming money is equal, and I prefer Williams. So I hate the actual trade suggested.

[76ciology]

Would you trade Ben Simmons and Maxey for Kawhi, if Kawhi agreed to play on our team for the rest of his career?

Kawhi would solve our size and go to guy issues.

Suggested it months ago

Sorry wasnt able to catch it. U included Maxey?

[76ciology]

In that last play against the Celts.

If we had Siakam, Biid would be receiving the ball instead of Tobias then Siakam would be sealing in the paint. Then Danny Green would be running in the corner instead of Niang.

Siakam also would probably have done a better job on defense against Tatum.