76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[76ciology]

I believe that trading Maxey, though I don't anticipate it happening, will only be considered if it's for someone capable of leading the offense in Embiid's absence. The most likely candidate, in my opinion is Donovan Mitchell.

I really dislike Mitchell as a player.

At college he was great, a defensive point guard with some scoring and limited playmaking.
In his rookie year Quinn Snyder gave him a license to take whatever shot he wanted, the US media were obsessed with having a local star as rookie of the year over Simmons, so he got overhyped and started believing the hype. He turned into a chucker who doesn't play defense.
He shot the Jazz out of 2 playoff series with extremely inefficient shooting, and he has no interest in defense. He has a massive ego and is a net negative on a team. Would not add him to the Sixers for free.

He hasn’t played with anyone better than himself; he’s always been the alpha on his team.

Furthermore, you can see how easy it is to win with him in these regular season games when the Cavs got into some win streaks without Garland and Mobley. All you need is the same Jazz set-up of a lob/rim protector at center, a stretch 4, and 3&D players at the 2 and 3 positions.

Mitchell averages +6.3 EPM, +5.4 RAPM, and +7 DPM, which ranks him 6th to 8th in all three advanced stats.

[elchengue20]

I believe that trading Maxey, though I don't anticipate it happening, will only be considered if it's for someone capable of leading the offense in Embiid's absence. The most likely candidate, in my opinion is Donovan Mitchell.

I really dislike Mitchell as a player.

At college he was great, a defensive point guard with some scoring and limited playmaking.
In his rookie year Quinn Snyder gave him a license to take whatever shot he wanted, the US media were obsessed with having a local star as rookie of the year over Simmons, so he got overhyped and started believing the hype. He turned into a chucker who doesn't play defense.
He shot the Jazz out of 2 playoff series with extremely inefficient shooting, and he has no interest in defense. He has a massive ego and is a net negative on a team. Would not add him to the Sixers for free.

Lol you really hate him.

He's a legit Star. Low tier tho but definetively he's good. Cavs are 15-1 in their last 16 games with him leading the carge and without Mobley/Garland for the most part.

I don't see him as a major upgrade over Maxey and they can't play together. I only consider him because his timelime is closer to Embiid's, but i woudnt give up Maxey + significant assets.

[76ciology]

Every year, the issue with this team is how it functions in the absence of Embiid. Initially, we attempted to address this by acquiring a suitable backup center, starting with Greg Monroe and reaching a peak with Al Horford. However, these efforts were unsuccessful.

It then became apparent that the closest resemblance to a good team without Embiid is when we have players like Jimmy Butler or James Harden as our next best player after Embiid. These types of players can effectively run the offense and lead the team, sometimes even prompting Embiid to defer to them. After Harden’s departure, with limited assets, the new CBA and with limited window left, I do think addressing the problem this way is over.

Now that we are on the verge of awarding Maxey a max contract and positioning him as our next best player to Embiid, maybe we should address the problem by modeling our team structure after that of the Celtics. Maxey will assume the role of "Jaylen Brown," the next best player but not necessarily capable of leading a team, surrounded by three players as proficient as or capable of emulating the roles of Derrick White, Porzingis, and Al Horford.

In my opinion, the most cost-effective approach would be to retain Tobi and renegotiate his contract to be team-friendly, then acquire the other two players via trade or free agency.

The other two players could be Caruso, Jerami Grant, Jonathan Isaac, Isaiah Hartenstein, Miles Bridges or Jalen Smith. This setup would have your top 5 talents for the next season resembling:

Tatum - Embiid
Jaylen Brown - Maxey
Porzingis - Jerami Grant?
Derrick White - Alex Caruso?
Al Horford - Tobias Harris

This type of roster allows you to have the edge over the Celtics if Embiid is healthy, get you a top 4 seed and has the depth to maybe steal 1-2 games against top teams in the playoffs.

I just dont know if we’d have the assets to trade for two of them. Realistically, we re-sign Tobi, trade for one (Caruso?) then sign one via FA (Miles Bridges?).

Tatum - Embiid
Jaylen Brown - Maxey
Porzingis - Miles Bridges?
Derrick White - Caruso?
Al Horford - Tobias Harris

I agree with the strategy of adding really good starting players, but not necessarily stars. However, if we go that route you have to make sure that those players fit really well such that the whole is better than the sum of the parts. That means 3&D players with at least one being capable of initiating some offense when Maxey is out, or to allow him to run off screens.

Miles Bridges makes sense from a basketball perspective (I wouldn't trade for him for different reasons), but Grant, Harris and Caruso do not offer enough defense, shooting and playmaking. I think that line-up would look really clunky, especially during the minutes that Embiid sits and you replace him with a back-up.

They're all average defenders at worst (all are capable of being good defenders when asked) and average shooters at worst (Caruso is even a surprising 40% shooter). They can all shoot, pass, make plays, and attack closeouts.

[Decipher]

I'll get roasted for this one - but I think the Sixers should consider it;

Note - this is only If the team thinks Embiid can come back healthy for the Playoffs.

Embiid is possibly the greatest Sixer of all time when healthy, and considering the talent that has passed through the doors I don't say that lightly. Not winning a championship with him would be the biggest waste of talent in NBA history.

His career could be over at any minute, so the Sixers should roll the dice and try and win now.

I believe Maxey is very overrated - I've given my reasons in other threads. I may be wrong in the future, but right now his value is as high as it ever will be.

Sixers need a true point guard to control the offense and shape the opposition's defense to Sixers advantage. I've never liked him, but when healthy Chris Paul is as good as it gets.

Sixers need a two-way wing, they also need a backup center. The Nets pair of Bridges and Claxton would be fantastic. Claxton can play a lot of center minutes and Embiid can play 25 minutes per game. Bridges can pick up the scoring slack and be the defensive wing that's missing.

So here is my three-team trade

Sixers Get

Chris Paul
Mikal Bridges
Nic Claxton

Nets get

Tyrese Maxey
Paul Reed
Marcus Morris

GSW Get
Covington
Batum
Kormaz
Two second-round picks - or Sixers wait for a buyout.

A starting line up

Embiid/Claxton
Harris/Bridges
Bridges/Oubre
Oubre/Melton/Springer
Paul/Beverly

Still weak at shooting guard, but if healthy that team has a better chance than relying on Maxey to win a seven-game series.

I am a Nets fan

We have allegedly rejected all our picks plus Green for Mikal alone so no chance that our management takes your offer

[TheBallsDeeper]

I'll get roasted for this one - but I think the Sixers should consider it;

Note - this is only If the team thinks Embiid can come back healthy for the Playoffs.

Embiid is possibly the greatest Sixer of all time when healthy, and considering the talent that has passed through the doors I don't say that lightly. Not winning a championship with him would be the biggest waste of talent in NBA history.

His career could be over at any minute, so the Sixers should roll the dice and try and win now.

I believe Maxey is very overrated - I've given my reasons in other threads. I may be wrong in the future, but right now his value is as high as it ever will be.

Sixers need a true point guard to control the offense and shape the opposition's defense to Sixers advantage. I've never liked him, but when healthy Chris Paul is as good as it gets.

Sixers need a two-way wing, they also need a backup center. The Nets pair of Bridges and Claxton would be fantastic. Claxton can play a lot of center minutes and Embiid can play 25 minutes per game. Bridges can pick up the scoring slack and be the defensive wing that's missing.

So here is my three-team trade

Sixers Get

Chris Paul
Mikal Bridges
Nic Claxton

Nets get

Tyrese Maxey
Paul Reed
Marcus Morris

GSW Get
Covington
Batum
Kormaz
Two second-round picks - or Sixers wait for a buyout.

A starting line up

Embiid/Claxton
Harris/Bridges
Bridges/Oubre
Oubre/Melton/Springer
Paul/Beverly

Still weak at shooting guard, but if healthy that team has a better chance than relying on Maxey to win a seven-game series.

I am a Nets fan

We have allegedly rejected all our picks plus Green for Mikal alone so no chance that our management takes your offer

Did that relpy make sense in your head when you wrote it??

Reads like you're having a stroke champ.

[Decipher]

I'll get roasted for this one - but I think the Sixers should consider it;

Note - this is only If the team thinks Embiid can come back healthy for the Playoffs.

Embiid is possibly the greatest Sixer of all time when healthy, and considering the talent that has passed through the doors I don't say that lightly. Not winning a championship with him would be the biggest waste of talent in NBA history.

His career could be over at any minute, so the Sixers should roll the dice and try and win now.

I believe Maxey is very overrated - I've given my reasons in other threads. I may be wrong in the future, but right now his value is as high as it ever will be.

Sixers need a true point guard to control the offense and shape the opposition's defense to Sixers advantage. I've never liked him, but when healthy Chris Paul is as good as it gets.

Sixers need a two-way wing, they also need a backup center. The Nets pair of Bridges and Claxton would be fantastic. Claxton can play a lot of center minutes and Embiid can play 25 minutes per game. Bridges can pick up the scoring slack and be the defensive wing that's missing.

So here is my three-team trade

Sixers Get

Chris Paul
Mikal Bridges
Nic Claxton

Nets get

Tyrese Maxey
Paul Reed
Marcus Morris

GSW Get
Covington
Batum
Kormaz
Two second-round picks - or Sixers wait for a buyout.

A starting line up

Embiid/Claxton
Harris/Bridges
Bridges/Oubre
Oubre/Melton/Springer
Paul/Beverly

Still weak at shooting guard, but if healthy that team has a better chance than relying on Maxey to win a seven-game series.

I am a Nets fan

We have allegedly rejected all our picks plus Green for Mikal alone so no chance that our management takes your offer

Did that relpy make sense in your head when you wrote it??

Reads like you're having a stroke champ.

You obviously haven’t looked at the alleged Houston trade, the standings or the rosters

**** ain’t hard champ

[Foshan]

So the deadline is looming... really hoping for something to come out of nowhere and be cool. i wonder if we will even make the move to get out of the tax.

[Bum Adebayo]

Im getting a very uneasy feeling it’s Miles Bridges.

We are trying to win, not play some moral game.

[Arsenal]

Leaving aside the moral issue, the problem with trading for Miles Bridges is we don’t get his Bird Rights in the trade. So we need to re-sign him with pure cap money in the summer, which guts our depth.

[eyeatoma]

Leaving aside the moral issue, the problem with trading for Miles Bridges is we don’t get his Bird Rights in the trade. So we need to re-sign him with pure cap money in the summer, which guts our depth.

Didn't realize that. Probably a no go then.

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[Arsenal]

If we don’t pull the trigger on a meaningful trade, then it’s time to get KPJ to come on down! He could be the consolation prize for a busted deadline.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I am a Nets fan

We have allegedly rejected all our picks plus Green for Mikal alone so no chance that our management takes your offer

Did that relpy make sense in your head when you wrote it??

Reads like you're having a stroke champ.

You obviously haven’t looked at the alleged Houston trade, the standings or the rosters

**** ain’t hard champ

What was the alleged trade? Are you saying these talks allegedly occurred or a trade did? Who was traded?

[mksp]

Miles Bridges shouldn't be in the league and the Sixers would be destroyed in the press if they traded for him. I wouldn't watch another game. Would be such a stupid thing to do.

[eyeatoma]

Miles Bridges shouldn't be in the league and the Sixers would be destroyed in the press if they traded for him. I wouldn't watch another game. Would be such a stupid thing to do.

The NBA is full of criminals. Jason Kidd is a wife beater. Chauncey Bill is a rapist. Hell even Kobe alleged raped someone. I hate it just as much as you but what if a contender gets him?

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[Kolkmania]

If we don’t pull the trigger on a meaningful trade, then it’s time to get KPJ to come on down! He could be the consolation prize for a busted deadline.

Potential Lowry and Hayward buy-outs are also viable options for boosting our rotation this year.

[Rastas]

Miles Bridges shouldn't be in the league and the Sixers would be destroyed in the press if they traded for him. I wouldn't watch another game. Would be such a stupid thing to do.

Not to disrespect your opinion or anything but I personally don't mind him playing and earning in the NBA.
Firstly the more he earns - the more goes towards his ex and kids.
Then there is the fact he is a pretty good impact player.

But mainly I look at this situation as a chance for his ex and kids to rebuild a decent life.

[76ciology]

Miles Bridges shouldn't be in the league and the Sixers would be destroyed in the press if they traded for him. I wouldn't watch another game. Would be such a stupid thing to do.

The NBA is full of criminals. Jason Kidd is a wife beater. Chauncey Bill is a rapist. Hell even Kobe alleged raped someone. I hate it just as much as you but what if a contender gets him?

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Yeah. Also.. google Allen Iverson’s legal issues

[eyeatoma]

If the plan is for Jo return this season we owe it to him to give him the best support possible with the trade deadline. None of this limp dick ****, that has been speculated. Go all out. Go big or go home.

[76ciology]

Miles Bridges shouldn't be in the league and the Sixers would be destroyed in the press if they traded for him. I wouldn't watch another game. Would be such a stupid thing to do.

Not to disrespect your opinion or anything but I personally don't mind him playing and earning in the NBA.
Firstly the more he earns - the more goes towards his ex and kids.
Then there is the fact he is a pretty good impact player.

But mainly I look at this situation as a chance for his ex and kids to rebuild a decent life.

That is what i told my wife when she asked me why i went to the strip club.

[76ciology]

If the plan is for Jo return this season we owe it to him to give him the best support possible with the trade deadline. None of this limp dick ****, that has been speculated. Go all out. Go big or go home.

Looks like you wont be able to sleep tonight brother