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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#741 » by Kobblehead » Sat Sep 7, 2024 12:10 pm

76ciology wrote:I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.

Clint Capela seems like an ideal candidate.

He's on an expiring contract and the Hawks have Okongwu locked up for 4 more years.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#742 » by mjkvol » Sat Sep 7, 2024 12:57 pm

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76ciology wrote:I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.

Clint Capela seems like an ideal candidate.

He's on an expiring contract and the Hawks have Okongwu locked up for 4 more years.


Randle for Capela would practically be one of those Silver-arranged Laker deals we've seen in recent years. If the Hawks make that deal, it's time to clean house there, not that it isn't past that already. But that would be a fireable offense for any GM.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#743 » by Sixerscan » Sat Sep 7, 2024 3:12 pm

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76ciology wrote:I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.

Clint Capela seems like an ideal candidate.

He's on an expiring contract and the Hawks have Okongwu locked up for 4 more years.

Capela would be a good fit for them defensively but I feel like that really caps them offensively? It's really hard to advance far with just one real scorer and a bunch of role players, especially when that scorer is a small guard.

That lineup would also have very little passing/ball handling, and Brunson while good is not exactly a Chris Paul/Nash-type of traditional point guard. Part of why Hartenstein was so important for them.

This is part of why I feel, while them getting Bridges is annoying, it's not the worst outcome since they could have easily waited to use those picks plus a premium to get an actual elite 2nd option.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#744 » by 76ciology » Sat Sep 7, 2024 3:48 pm

Knicks fans often enjoy coming up with trade machine scenarios where they acquire centers like Walker Kessler, Jonas Valanciunas, and Robert Williams.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#745 » by the_process » Sun Sep 8, 2024 1:30 pm

76ciology wrote:I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.


The easy answer is Valanciunas. The Wizards signed the guy to trade him, and he shouldn't cost a ton.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#746 » by zaz102 » Sun Sep 8, 2024 3:43 pm

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76ciology wrote:I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.

Clint Capela seems like an ideal candidate.

He's on an expiring contract and the Hawks have Okongwu locked up for 4 more years.

Capela would be a good fit for them defensively but I feel like that really caps them offensively? It's really hard to advance far with just one real scorer and a bunch of role players, especially when that scorer is a small guard.

That lineup would also have very little passing/ball handling, and Brunson while good is not exactly a Chris Paul/Nash-type of traditional point guard. Part of why Hartenstein was so important for them.

This is part of why I feel, while them getting Bridges is annoying, it's not the worst outcome since they could have easily waited to use those picks plus a premium to get an actual elite 2nd option.
Plus, you know it's a two team deal and Randle would not be a good fit on Atlanta.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#747 » by 76ciology » Mon Sep 9, 2024 3:04 am

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76ciology wrote:I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.


The easy answer is Valanciunas. The Wizards signed the guy to trade him, and he shouldn't cost a ton.


He’s also a good fit for Sarr. Sarr would look like a bust without JV.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#748 » by the_process » Mon Sep 9, 2024 12:35 pm

76ciology wrote:
the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:I wonder which center the Knicks might target in a trade. It seems like they could explore a deal involving Randle to bring in a solid center that fits their roster needs.


The easy answer is Valanciunas. The Wizards signed the guy to trade him, and he shouldn't cost a ton.


He’s also a good fit for Sarr. Sarr would look like a bust without JV.


Sarr is going to look like a bust until he gets much, much stronger. Even then it's questionable, but it's gonna be a couple years either way. WSH can be patient. They have to wait out that terrible Poole contract and hope they actually get lucky in the lottery going forward.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#749 » by SixthStreet » Mon Sep 9, 2024 3:33 pm

If I'm the Knicks, I wouldn't trade Randle for a center, unless he becomes disgruntled. I don't think they need another traditional C except for us and no one should make roster makeup considerations based on a team that historically always stumbles. Randle would prove useful for them against the Bucks or Celtics.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#750 » by Murray_17 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:59 am

SixthStreet wrote:If I'm the Knicks, I wouldn't trade Randle for a center, unless he becomes disgruntled. I don't think they need another traditional C except for us and no one should make roster makeup considerations based on a team that historically always stumbles. Randle would prove useful for them against the Bucks or Celtics.



Randle is not a winning player and in the PO teams are probably gonna let him open on the perimeter and double Brunson while packing the paint. That's ideal for a team like the Bucks.

They need to move Randle but outside of the 2026 pick they don't have too much they can offer and that Randle contract is bad
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#751 » by zaz102 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:42 pm

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SixthStreet wrote:If I'm the Knicks, I wouldn't trade Randle for a center, unless he becomes disgruntled. I don't think they need another traditional C except for us and no one should make roster makeup considerations based on a team that historically always stumbles. Randle would prove useful for them against the Bucks or Celtics.



Randle is not a winning player and in the PO teams are probably gonna let him open on the perimeter and double Brunson while packing the paint. That's ideal for a team like the Bucks.

They need to move Randle but outside of the 2026 pick they don't have too much they can offer and that Randle contract is bad
I consider Randle a Super Tobias. He's better than Tobias but should not be a #1 option on a legitimate contender. At the same time, he's a ball dominant player that isn't super effective in a supporting role. Because of this, I think it makes him not very valuable for other teams. I think they'll have to take a worse player, add significant assets for a similar or better player or just hold on to him until he hits FA.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#752 » by Kobblehead » Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:48 pm

There's isn't much of a role for Julius Randle on this Knicks team.

- Anunoby is their preference at PF. They much prefer the fit and skillset he offers (even though Julius is more talented).
- Randle can't be a fulltime C because he lacks the length and offers no rim protection (both in ability and willingness).

So where does he fit? As a bench player featured on the 2nd unit? Not sure he'd be happy in that role.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#753 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:20 am

Brunson/McBride
Bridges/Divencenzo
Anunoby/Hart
Randle/Anunoby
Robinson/Achiuwa


Seems like the obvious 9-man rotation in New York.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#754 » by Sixerscan » Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:55 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Brunson/McBride
Bridges/Divencenzo
Anunoby/Hart
Randle/Anunoby
Robinson/Achiuwa


Seems like the obvious 9-man rotation in New York.

Going from point guard to center is that drawn horse meme
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Post#755 » by M2J » Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:06 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Brunson/McBride
Bridges/Divencenzo
Anunoby/Hart
Randle/Anunoby
Robinson/Achiuwa


Seems like the obvious 9-man rotation in New York.


Exactly, pretty simple to me. Plus I would have Randle play backup C a lot.... Perhaps finish the games that way as well.

In my opinion the only reason they need to find another backup center is because you can't count on Mitchell Robinson staying healthy for an entire season. Plus thibs is a smart enough defensive coach, that he'll know how to at least shade extra coverage towards Joel Embiid without a real sizable center defending him. He actually struggles more with that then against someone like Isaiah hartenstein who he actually cooked.

This lineup works pretty well against Milwaukee too. They absolutely need Randle due to the need for a secondary playmaker and scorer, I'd trust him in that role more than Bridges who is even more unproven.

This team fits pretty well around Randle and Brunson and Bridges of course, and the three of them together and working well together is the only way they actually are a true championship contender.... I do think that Brunson has to showcase that he is the one that can facilitate for everyone and take over when needed.... In a true Zeke Thomas fashion. We saw this team to some degree with Randle after OG came in.... Looked good.

Hart and Donte should be bench players, no matter how important they were this season. And pretty much anyone should be able to finish games alongside Brunson and probably Bridges depending on their output
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#756 » by elchengue20 » Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:43 am

Randle Is not a role player. He's ball centric and doesn't know to play off others. He's always going to be the 2nd option at least.

He's a fine player if your an average team trying to make the Playoffs but i dont see him being a core piece for a championship team.

He's not really efficient or consistent against solid defenses while also being below average defensively on the other end.

That's why hes always been atrocious come Playoff time. I dont think hes whats NY needs at this stage of their developement as a team. Hope they are stuck with him.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#757 » by elchengue20 » Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:41 am

Knicks don't really concern me.

If Embiid is healthy and bring at least his B+ game, we should beat them.

If he doesn't, they better than us, as any other contender, so it doesn't matter that much. We are already screwed.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#758 » by 76ciology » Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:44 am

elchengue20 wrote:Knicks don't really concern me.

If Embiid is healthy and bring at least his B+ game, we should beat them.

If he doesn't, they better than us, as any other contender, so it doesn't matter that much. We are already screwed.


Which teams would you be concerned about?

I think the Bucks are highly underrated. It feels like the entire league has written them off. They have more than enough firepower on offense, with proven alphas in Giannis and Dame. They have size, versatility, and can play both big and small lineups. The Giannis and Brook Lopez 4-5 combination is still a tough matchup for any team.

Most people seem to be focused on the Celtics, overlooking the Bucks. Many teams have moved away from adding size at the 4-5 positions, and if the Bucks figure things out, a lot of teams won't be equipped to handle them. For example, when I look at our team, I don't think we have a power forward who can physically match up with them. We were fortunate to get Yabusele, but he’s still unproven, especially against Giannis and in the playoffs.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#759 » by zaz102 » Sat Sep 14, 2024 12:11 pm

The team we should worry about the most after Boston is.... our own team. If Embiid and/or PG aren't healthy, they'll struggle with a lot of the East teams.

If healthy, they should be able to hang with any team in the East. Boston is the only team I would put as a tier higher.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#760 » by elchengue20 » Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:21 pm

Of course Boston concerns me way more, they have a stacked team, defending champs plus they had our number for years. If KP is healthy it's very difficult to beat them.

Bucks are under the radar because Giannis has been hurt the last 2 Playoffs. If they are healthy i have them over the Knicks. They will need Khris Middleton coming back to life a little, Giannis healthy and Dame not regressing tho. A series against them should be a very close one in that case.

I agree if we are healthy, ON PAPER, we are the best team after Boston, but i have some issues on the toughness and leadership department with Embiid and PG being our leaders that could make things messy. Hope they prove me wrong.

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