Draft Day Shenanigans (IV)

[the_process]

Fleming or Markovic tomorrow.

[stormi]

Daryl Morey get me Adou Thiero (or Fleming or Penda) at #35 and my life belongs to you.

[Damienfan]

To pass on that pick, which I am now hanging Daryl with, to take VJ is ineptitude. That pick could easily be top 10 next year in what's touted as a better draft.

Next years draft is always better. This years draft was supposed to be a grand slam and as per, the glitter wore off as we approached closer.

2026 has three alluring prospects at the top, but it's no certainty at anything, especially this far out. None of them look the caliber Flagg displayed in his D-1.

And then there's the value of a bird in hand. People really need to come to terms with the reality that VJ is an elite prospect, and there's substantially more to lose to trade out for a mystery box down the line.

I don't see VJ as an elite prospect.

VJ=High floor and high ceiling. What's not to love?

[Kobblehead]

WTF, that's so lame that the draft is not going to be completed tonight.

[M2J]

Next years draft is always better. This years draft was supposed to be a grand slam and as per, the glitter wore off as we approached closer.

2026 has three alluring prospects at the top, but it's no certainty at anything, especially this far out. None of them look the caliber Flagg displayed in his D-1.

And then there's the value of a bird in hand. People really need to come to terms with the reality that VJ is an elite prospect, and there's substantially more to lose to trade out for a mystery box down the line.

I don't see VJ as an elite prospect.

I do and I almost assuredly guarantee Daryl Morey does as well considering who he took him over and how he's spoken about him before and after selecting him.

Checks nearly every box.

The hypothetical is that Philly could've still gotten a good prospect at 7 and that pick next season for new Orleans to move up and get whomever they wanted. I can squint and see an elite prospect in VJ purely due to size and athleticism, but it's hard to say he's a all star without a ton of surprising improvement and work. Almost Maxey like surprise. You could've gotten a point in 6'4 Fears or another high floor prospect at 7 and actually gotten a lottery pick in the 2027 draft. Even if it's the worst of Blazers or pelicans... That's a lottery pick

I can believe Morey squinted too, but he certainly tried to move off that pick after that visit with VJ.

[stormi]

I don't see VJ as an elite prospect.

I do and I almost assuredly guarantee Daryl Morey does as well considering who he took him over and how he's spoken about him before and after selecting him.

Checks nearly every box.

The hypothetical is that Philly could've still gotten a good prospect at 7 and that pick next season for new Orleans to move up and get whomever they wanted. I can squint and see an elite prospect in VJ purely due to size and athleticism, but it's hard to say he's a all star without a ton of surprising improvement and work. Almost Maxey like surprise. You could've gotten a point in 6'4 Fears or another high floor prospect at 7 and actually gotten a lottery pick in the 2027 draft. Even if it's the worst of Blazers or pelicans... That's a lottery pick

I can believe Morey squinted too, but he certainly tried to move off that pick after that visit with VJ.

VJ is significantly better than flawed creators like Tre Johnson or Ace Bailey, let alone that next tier below in Fears or Demin that got selected within the range of the NOP pick.

Unless they offered a collection of unprotected FRPs along with #7 to move up to three, it was just never worth moving off the chance to select a prospect of Edgecombe's caliber.

[76ciology]

WTF, that's so lame that the draft is not going to be completed tonight.

F’n Bron ruined it for Bronny

[NYSixersFan]

Too many guards that need minutes and not enough quality size and shooting. I see McCain getting traded for a Forward.

Some good options at #35. I would take Fleming, Raynaud or Kalkenbrenner. If we had a good shooting team, I'd definitely consider Thiero.

[Mik317]

WTF, that's so lame that the draft is not going to be completed tonight.

F’n Bron ruined it for Bronny

think its moreso that GMs wanted some extra time to talk to agents and other teams because the second round is where guys really start to attempt to control where they go if they even get drafted at all sometimes.

[sixers hoops]

Maybe Daryl just really believes in VJ?

To pass on that pick, which I am now hanging Daryl with, to take VJ is ineptitude. That pick could easily be top 10 next year in what's touted as a better draft.

Next years draft is always better. This years draft was supposed to be a grand slam and as per, the glitter wore off as we approached closer.

2026 has three alluring prospects at the top, but it's no certainty at anything, especially this far out. None of them look the caliber Flagg displayed in his D-1.

And then there's the value of a bird in hand. People really need to come to terms with the reality that VJ is an elite prospect, and there's substantially more to lose to trade out for a mystery box down the line.

I think when the online scouts have a guy that they pump up, he is on the fans “personal” mock, and it is hard to reconcile when your team passes on that guy. The Flyers are going to enrage their fanbase on Friday when they pass on James Hagens, who spent the better part of two years as the projected top pick.

These teams trust their scouts who watch these guys in person a lot, assess every minute of game tape, investigate their background by interviewing coaches and athletic directors, attend the scouting combine, know the organizational strategic plan moving forward, and have experience in scouting. The Sixers value their scouts’ assessments more than any online scout or the posters on realgm. And frankly, Morey’s scouting team with the Sixers has been pretty good.

I think anybody who believes Morey thought Ace was a star, but he settled on VJ because he was scared to draft Ace, couldn’t find a good trade, or wasn’t allowed to accept a good trade, has to take some deep breaths and realize the Sixers took the guy they had highly rated. You can disagree with Morey, and you may be right. Nevertheless, the Sixers clearly wanted VJ.

However, Howie takes everybody the online scouts like, and it works out for him.

[mjkvol]

Noah Penda
Adou Thiero
Ryan Kalkbrenner
Rasheer Fleming
Jamir Watkins
Johni Broome
Maxine Raynaud
Tyrese Proctor
Eric Dixon
Kam Jones

And don't forget my boy Chaz.

[sixers hoops]

WTF, that's so lame that the draft is not going to be completed tonight.

F’n Bron ruined it for Bronny

think its moreso that GMs wanted some extra time to talk to agents and other teams because the second round is where guys really start to attempt to control where they go if they even get drafted at all sometimes.

Exactly. The teams want to reset. It makes sense for them.

[Embiid-MVP]

To pass on that pick, which I am now hanging Daryl with, to take VJ is ineptitude. That pick could easily be top 10 next year in what's touted as a better draft.

Pelicans and Blazers (best of) is certainly going to be the pick of one of the worst 8 records in the league

I'm actually hoping for confirmation of the story that ownership killed a trade down

I read somewhere that ownership told him flat out do not trade down. Read this like a hour before the draft.

[sixers hoops]

Didn't even know Penn State had a guy in this draft

Read he is big and can shoot. Some had him round 1. I’ll take him.

[mjkvol]

I do and I almost assuredly guarantee Daryl Morey does as well considering who he took him over and how he's spoken about him before and after selecting him.

Checks nearly every box.

The hypothetical is that Philly could've still gotten a good prospect at 7 and that pick next season for new Orleans to move up and get whomever they wanted. I can squint and see an elite prospect in VJ purely due to size and athleticism, but it's hard to say he's a all star without a ton of surprising improvement and work. Almost Maxey like surprise. You could've gotten a point in 6'4 Fears or another high floor prospect at 7 and actually gotten a lottery pick in the 2027 draft. Even if it's the worst of Blazers or pelicans... That's a lottery pick

I can believe Morey squinted too, but he certainly tried to move off that pick after that visit with VJ.

VJ is significantly better than flawed creators like Tre Johnson or Ace Bailey, let alone that next tier below in Fears or Demin that got selected within the range of the NOP pick.

Unless they offered a collection of unprotected FRPs along with #7 to move up to three, it was just never worth moving off the chance to select a prospect of Edgecombe's caliber.

Totally agree. I was hyped for a trade for extra picks, but the only players I would have wanted in a trade down were Kon or Kasparas, and given that wasn't going to happen I think we got the best player available, and clearly Morey feels the same way.

[LeonJordanJr24]

PG and Mccain for Jaylen Brown

Maxey / ------
Grimes/ Edgecomb
Brown
---------
Embiid / ---

[M2J]

Pelicans and Blazers (best of) is certainly going to be the pick of one of the worst 8 records in the league

I'm actually hoping for confirmation of the story that ownership killed a trade down

I read somewhere that ownership told him flat out do not trade down. Read this like a hour before the draft.

It's floating out there before the draft, but no one is truly reporting it

I heard it from bodner on PHLy who basically said he loosely heard it but didn't confirm it. But not long after that about an hour before the draft it was reported that the Sixers were going to stay at 3.

[76ciology]

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Kalkbrenner please

[sixers hoops]

Pelicans and Blazers (best of) is certainly going to be the pick of one of the worst 8 records in the league

I'm actually hoping for confirmation of the story that ownership killed a trade down

I read somewhere that ownership told him flat out do not trade down. Read this like a hour before the draft.

It was a CBS report that Bodner referenced. However, if you follow the Sixers organization closely, you know that report makes no sense. Reporters throw a lot of crap out there to try exchange favors with their sources because they know some fans will latch onto anything.

If you choose to believe that report, then were all the reports of them possibly trading down lies? Or did Josh Harris issue this demand one hour before the draft?

After five years of Morey running the Sixers front office like the Wild West, Harris draws the line at trading down on a draft pick lol. Morey gets caught tampering, lost draft picks for not disclosing injuries, fined multiple times for not reporting injuries as per league rules, Ben holdout, Harden holdout, sign a 35 year old to a $200+ million contract, sign an injured player to a four year extension over a year before his contract expires… but Harris finally steps in to tell him he can’t trade down.

[M2J]

I'm actually hoping for confirmation of the story that ownership killed a trade down

I read somewhere that ownership told him flat out do not trade down. Read this like a hour before the draft.

It was a CBS report that Bodner referenced. However, if you follow the Sixers organization closely, you know that report makes no sense. Reporters throw a lot of crap out there to try exchange favors with their sources because they know some fans will latch onto anything.

If you choose to believe that report, then were all the reports of them possibly trading down lies? Or did Josh Harris issue this demand one hour before the draft?

After five years of Morey running the Sixers front office like the Wild West, Harris draws the line at trading down on a draft pick lol. Morey gets caught tampering, lost draft picks for not disclosing injuries, fined multiple times for not reporting injuries as per league rules, Ben holdout, Harden holdout, sign a 35 year old to a $200+ million contract, sign an injured player to a four year extension over a year before his contract expires… but Harris finally steps in to tell him he can’t trade down.

Fact that VJ was the selection makes your point even more. Who would step in for that?