2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread

[Iscull]

Guys, don't worry, like the tweet said - he's a 2019 champion!

When VJ was in Elementary School

[Slacktard]

Hey... Do the Sixers now have bird rights on Kyle Lowry for next off-season? lol.

[JimmyPlopper]

It seems to me that Quentin Grimes is the only uncertainty left.

Tyrese Maxey / Jared McCain / Kyle Lowry
Quentin Grimes (???) / VJ Edgecombe / Eric Gordon
Paul George / Justin Edwards / Ricky Council IV
Kelly Oubre Jr. / Trendon Watford / Johni Broome
Joel Embiid / Adem Bona / Andre Drummond

[the_process]

Hey... Do the Sixers now have bird rights on Kyle Lowry for next off-season? lol.

Indeed. Not thinking a Lowry max deal is going to be a very good trade chip, however.

[the_process]

just a lazy unserious franchise

When your so called franchise player is constantly a big mopey question mark...

[phillynative]

It seems to me that Quentin Grimes is the only uncertainty left.

Tyrese Maxey / Jared McCain / Kyle Lowry
Quentin Grimes (???) / VJ Edgecombe / Eric Gordon
Paul George / Justin Edwards / Ricky Council IV
Kelly Oubre Jr. / Trendon Watford / Johni Broome
Joel Embiid / Adem Bona / Andre Drummond

Still too many undersized guards and no starting PF. None of the forwards are great rebounders or rim protectors .

I dont understand why Nurse dont just hire Lowry as an assistant since he can't seem to coach without him.

We still have questionable rim protection.
Not a fan of Broome, as he cannot move well enough to defend. Embiid looked pretty bad last season and Bona is a foul machine

[LeonJordanJr24]

This team needs a big pure point guard and a young athletic Wing/PF that can rebound.


Oubre, Drummond and Eric Gordan gotta go ...

[LeTimmAy]

Looks like we have finally built around embiid and simmons.

[FlyingArrow]

It seems to me that Quentin Grimes is the only uncertainty left.

Tyrese Maxey / Jared McCain / Kyle Lowry
Quentin Grimes (???) / VJ Edgecombe / Eric Gordon
Paul George / Justin Edwards / Ricky Council IV
Kelly Oubre Jr. / Trendon Watford / Johni Broome
Joel Embiid / Adem Bona / Andre Drummond

Unfortunately, reality may look more like this:

Kyle Lowry / Jared McCain / VJ Edgecombe
Tyrese Maxey / Eric Gordon / Quentin Grimes (???)
Paul George / Justin Edwards / Ricky Council IV
Kelly Oubre Jr. / Trendon Watford / Johni Broome
Joel Embiid / Andre Drummond / Adem Bona

[Kobblehead]

I would love to toss minimum contracts at Kessler Edwards and Caleb Houstan. Two 6'8" guys that shot 40% from three last year. It would be nice to have more options in our quest to figure out a worthy F rotation.

[Arsenal]

HE STAY - I predict 3 yrs / $48m with the third year a player option.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/1lurbb4/quentin_grimes/

[Stanford]

Just realized that Kessler Edwards and Walker Kessler are different people.

No wait I'm actually thinking about Corey Kispert

[Covi_Marsh]

HE STAY - I predict 3 yrs / $48m with the third year a player option.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/1lurbb4/quentin_grimes/

Pretty difficult to demand a market that no one is willing to pay and you’re a restricted free agent. Cant get upset and take an TMLE anywhere because we would just match it. Can’t create leverage because no other team has money. He could bet on himself and sign the qualifying offer with hopes he could make more and just leave us next year but he more then likely won’t get the scoring opportunities he was provided this offseason to demand 25 again next season. Agent is eventually going to have to just give in to the market which is most likely the 14 mil MLE. We could give him an extra 2 mil for his troubles.

[ProcessDoctor]

I doubt Morey will enter the season with 15 standard contracts, which is where we'd be with Grimes re-signing.

I think he'll either ship out Drummond to a cap space team or make a consolidation 2-for-1 trade.

Even though I disagree with the cheapness of ownership, there is a huge advantage to having the TMLE for the buyout period if we happen to be in contention.

[FlyingArrow]

Just realized that Kessler Edwards and Walker Kessler are different people.

No wait I'm actually thinking about Corey Kispert

I also didn't realize there were two Kesslers, and I had to look them up to see which was the "new" one to me. Walker Kessler is the center for Utah (and the Kessler that I knew of). He has another year on his rookie contract, and he's been outplaying his draft position (22nd pick). He'll be an RFA next year if he doesn't sign an extension before then.

Kessler Edwards out of Pepperdine is new to me. 6-8 power forward. Second-round pick who has split time on two-way contracts and regular contracts. For a player on a 2-way contract, he got decent playing time last year with Dallas (40 games with 18 starts). At age 25, he should be entering his prime.

I don't have an opinion on Kessler Edwards specifically, but I do think there is a major market inefficiency with players with his profile. That is: players whose skills make them fringe NBA players and who are entering their prime. What often happens is that these players get a "tryout" by getting some playing time right out of college until age 23 or 24. A few of them hit and they stick around for an NBA career. Many others don't, and they are out of the league and either overseas or retired by 25 or 26. For some of them, they just do not develop at all, and they should be dropped entirely. But for others, they are just developing too slowly. The top NBA players peak from 25-29. On the whole, there's no reason to expect the fringe NBA players to be any different - they're also peaking from 25-29, but they aren't in the league by then. Many of them get NBA playing time at 21-24 because of "potential", but then they get nothing at ages 25-29 when they would actually be better than many of the young guns who aren't ready yet and better than many of the established players who are 31+.

Again, I don't know if Kessler Edwards is one of them, but we should be looking more closely at those players. I'd be willing to bet that there is some 25 to 29 year old guard who will spend this year in the G-League or playing overseas, who for this year would be better than both 36-year old Eric Gordon and 20-year old VJ Edgecombe. As soon as next year, VJ will eclipse this anonymous guard, and that guard will never be as good as 29-year old Eric Gordon. But if we could identify those types of players, we could have great (and essentially free) help off the bench for 1 or 2 years. Maybe even a starter at their peak.

[Covi_Marsh]

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[Covi_Marsh]

Unfortunately he makes a bit too much for us to aggregate contracts to get him. Bulls doing Bulls things.

[Kobblehead]

If the Bulls want to just get out of his contract without giving up draft capital, maybe they'll take our expirings and Council. Wishful thinking.

[ProcessDoctor]

On PHLY today, they were talking about the PF position. Basically said there’s a good chance the roster will be as is (+ Grimes) heading into the season. Referenced the past late summer signings in Oubre and Yabusele. Reiterated how comfortable Morey is going into the season with holes on the roster.

The whole episode just made me remember how sick I am of this team starting off slowly every season because of dragged out offseasons holding everything up. I just find it annoying hearing stuff like “the player we valued just wasn’t available” when teams like the Clippers make it work via trade and free agency every summer. They were able to swap Powell for Collins to round out their roster. Somehow, we always pretend to be in a jail cell when it comes to rounding out the roster and fielding a complete team.

/rant

[Negrodamus]

If this is it for our roster, I'm starting Jabari Walker with Embiid. He's probably the best rebounder on the roster and showed he's made strides in his 3pt shooting last year. We just can't get brutalized on the boards anymore.