The Coaching Thread/SF76 Update: Page 54

[PhillyFan]

2-dimensional players, two-dimensional. Thad has shown us a two-dimensional game.And I don't think Lou's that half bad on the defensive end. Iguodala on the other hand is far from a two-dimensional player. He's borderline average. Turner's looking nice though.

I see what's going on here. He's like one of those phony characters that is supposed to fool you into actually thinking he believes what he says. Like the Stephen Colbert of Sixers fans.

yeah, so don't bother quoting him in the future when you post...we all went through a period of trying to convince this guy to check his facts before stating them. But he believes whatever he sees, and ignores whatever you have to say to him.

The solution, put him on ignore list like I did and it will bring you peace!

It is fun to make fun of him once in a while though

[sixerfan1976]

Collins was close to a job a few years ago...and was offered it and bailed at the last minute...cant remember what the situation was....but thats the kind of example why you wouldnt want to say he is the frontrunner to the media because if that doesnt work out..then Mitchell feels like 2nd fiddle(which is what he probably is) but you want to make sure you word things carefully.

I think if Avery would say i want this job..forget the other ones...he would hop up into the top 2. But he definitely wants NO over us for sure(cant blame him..hometown).

I dont think we will wait around......for that situation to resolve.

[Kobblehead]

yeah, so don't bother quoting him in the future when you post...we all went through a period of trying to convince this guy to check his facts before stating them. But he believes whatever he sees, and ignores whatever you have to say to him.

The solution, put him on ignore list like I did and it will bring you peace!

It is fun to make fun of him once in a while though

I don't even know why he posts. Nobody respects him or values his opinion. I blocked him, but people always quote him so I still catch glimpses of his pathetic posts.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Eskin said the Sixers have an offer on the table for Collins and right now Collins' agent wants too much, but they think they can work it out.

Howard says Avery Johnson is next, and the Sixers heard things about Mitchell that scared them off, so he's more of a distant 3rd.

[sixerfan1976]

I know who The King's contact is....and he is legit...so this probably has some merit.

I have been told Avery is not likely..and Mitchell was still there in the running so if you combine what i heard and what he heard..the only guy left standing is Collins..which means we probably gotta pay the man what he wants or close to it.

Sounds like no 2nd interviews....this is gonna get done by the weekend most likely.

Collins by the way..is a HUGE fan of Turner as well. He thinks the guy will have a better career than Wall.

[corwin]

pretty good chance that he becomes hte best player on the team within the next few years. He is very good

Saw that management is considering trading some of the young guys including Thad. Does that mean that they feel that Iguodala will be able to adjust to not being the primary offensive option on the team?

[LongLiveHinkie]

I know who The King's contact is....and he is legit...so this probably has some merit.

I have been told Avery is not likely..and Mitchell was still there in the running so if you combine what i heard and what he heard..the only guy left standing is Collins..which means we probably gotta pay the man what he wants or close to it.

Sounds like no 2nd interviews....this is gonna get done by the weekend most likely.

Collins by the way..is a HUGE fan of Turner as well. He thinks the guy will have a better career than Wall.

One time when I was at a Sixers game I had courtside seats and I saw Eskin talking to some guy mingling in a crowd trying to stay kind of hidden. I took a picture of them. Not sure if that is his source or who it even was.

[sixerfan1976]

They feel that Iguodala at the 3 with Turner at the 2 will work well.

They feel that the starters wont have a ton of 3 pt shooting but Meeks and KApono and even Lou can do that off the bench.

Turner isnt a 3 pt shooter but he is very good 16-18 ft from the basket. we will be alright there......

I was one of the big pessimist last year at times..you all saw that.....Turner isnt the savior..but he is a BIG step in the right direction..SG was such the hole for this team. I am excited again in this team and this bit of luck last night was truly huge! Now SG has been resolved just like that without having to give up anything via trade.

They know they gotta get consistent play out of the 4/5 position in the short term and the long term....they strongly feel with turner, a new coach and some tweaks TBD...they can get back into the 4/5 seed area next year..then when dalembert/kapono/green expire..some more flexibility may enable them to add another piece.

[The Guilty Party]

SF... should we expect to hear that Collins has been hired by the end of this week?

[sixerfan1976]

TGP,
One would think so if they get on the same page with money. Collins has bailed on situations before.......for that matter..so has Avery.....although in this case...they still dont believe Avery wants to be here.

Lets put it this way..if collins doesnt work out....its gonna be a mess and they may even have to go back and interview some guys.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

I look around the league and I find that there's a huge drop off in talent. There aren't many starting 4's or 5's. You figure Ben Gordan(Det) is at least available. We don't need Turner, as badly as we need Cousins.

[sixerfan1976]

In the East ..can you get by at the 4/5 with Brand/Dalembert/Speights/Smith and probably one other pickup via trade or free agency?

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Not unless Speights learns to box out and rebound and be a legit big man. Speights was horrible underneath the basket defensively. It felt like there wasn't even another big man on the floor. He was just so terrible.

You reported earlier that Speights> Thad in management's mind. It's about the opposite here amongst us. I feel very very strongly against Speights. A former poster Kevin12 was right, on a very good day Speights can get 20+ MPG. Other then that, it's difficult.


Then there's Jason Smith, I felt he was our 2nd best big last year and in reality, he's a 3rd/4th big. That's a problem.

Then there's our salary cap situation and I don't think we can even use the MLE.

Brand had rebounding difficulties as well, will he pick it up or is this the decline?

[The Guilty Party]

TGP,
One would think so if they get on the same page with money. Collins has bailed on situations before.......for that matter..so has Avery.....although in this case...they still dont believe Avery wants to be here.

Lets put it this way..if collins doesnt work out....its gonna be a mess and they may even have to go back and interview some guys.

So you're saying that there still is hope for Laimbeer? Don't shut the door on me, bro!

[sixerfan1976]

Jasner is reporting we have entered exclusive negotiations with Collins. He is our choice if the money works out. As far as timing.....Stefanski is in Chicago for workouts starting tomorrow....so not sure there would be a presser this week if something gets worked out.

This could fall apart of course.....DC could pull a 360 and say thanks but I want to continue doing TV coverage.

But I dont think Laimbeer will happen either way..sorry.

[The Guilty Party]

That's alright... the Turner thing has eased the pain of not having Laimbeer.
*****

Also, I know we're past the childish days of people questioning you (SF76) but I did hear Stefanski on 97.5 today talking about the coaching candidates and the three names he mentioned were Collins, Johnson, and Mitchell. I just wanted to point out that you absolutely nailed this a week ago.

Thanks for all of the reports and I hope you keep them coming through the summer.

[sixerfan1976]

thanks...he likes mitchell but i havent heard what the reason is eskin is reporting he dropped on their radar. Avery has always been unlikely....from the start.

The turner thing is absolutely huge for this franchise...and I am not trying to overstate it..I am not in marketing for the sixers:) Its absolutely a boost to put this franchise in the right direction...but they have alot more work to do.

[Gsraider]

SF, you are now posting in multiple threads, so if I missed this, I apologize in advance. Did your buddy pretty much say that Turner was our guy at #2, assuming Wall is taken first or did he know if the team also had an interest in Favors or Cousins at #2 instead?

[tk76]

The turner thing is absolutely huge for this franchise...and I am not trying to overstate it..I am not in marketing for the sixers:) Its absolutely a boost to put this franchise in the right direction...but they have alot more work to do.

Collins is certainly a better fit for the Sixers + Turner than he was before they won the #2 pick. I have less concern that Collins/ES will bring in band-aid vets now that they can draft a guy who will be an impact player from day one.

Also Turner fits the Collins lead role perfectly (Think Hill in Detroit.) Certainly better than trying to force Iguodala into that role.

[The Guilty Party]

It'll be interesting if Collins makes mention to the Sixers landing the 2nd pick in the lottery during the broadcast tonight.