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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#761 » by BullyKing » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:34 pm

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I never called him a bust, I said he is less talented than people think yes. I posted Joel Embuust one time joking about a bad play he made, but that's it.


Oh so you didn't mean it. Which is my point. No one should take what you say seriously because its nothing more than emotional overreactions. As soon as Jimmy Butler has a bad game, you'll start talking about him being overrated.


Embiid not being as talented as people think is not an overreaction, just an appreciation of watching many games. He is still a heck of a player, it is just some things he lacks such as reacting fast, having better vision or making good decisions in crunch time and the likes.
I realize he had a blunder of a game, and he is better than what he showed even against those elite teams like Celtics and Raptors.


That's great. But it's still not worth it for people to have to decipher whether what you are saying is your actual opinion or just another heat of the moment hot take.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#762 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Dec 7, 2018 1:23 pm

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Oh so you didn't mean it. Which is my point. No one should take what you say seriously because its nothing more than emotional overreactions. As soon as Jimmy Butler has a bad game, you'll start talking about him being overrated.


Embiid not being as talented as people think is not an overreaction, just an appreciation of watching many games. He is still a heck of a player, it is just some things he lacks such as reacting fast, having better vision or making good decisions in crunch time and the likes.
I realize he had a blunder of a game, and he is better than what he showed even against those elite teams like Celtics and Raptors.


That's great. But it's still not worth it for people to have to decipher whether what you are saying is your actual opinion or just another heat of the moment hot take.


Obviously I am gonna overreact sometimes out of frustration, but so do many posters here, and honestly if it is worth it for some people to decipher what I'm saying is the least of my concerns.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#763 » by kuclas » Fri Dec 7, 2018 1:33 pm

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SixersRelated wrote:He has many problems against bigger guys but as said here it will come with experience. He's working hard and I think he even needs to work harder but in the end he should kill guys like JV and Drummond.

Let's see how he'll play tonight against Drummond. He should be fired up.


He will dominate Drummond, he is in his head and Drummond is a low IQ player, the question is, can he dominate, or at least play good, against Gasol, Baynes, Horford?

Until now he showed that against guys like Gasol, Baynes, Horford and even Valanciunas he sucks. As said, he should become stronger and we all know he's working hard on that. About shot selection - it's all about experience and he should try and fail to become better in shot selection.

All around, he's a great player. I think it's unfair to criticize him like this every time he's having a bad game.


Embiid dominates Horford January 2017 and second January 2018 game. The key is making Horford defend embiid for 30 minutes a game. Horford can’t do it for 30 minutes. He can do it for 10-15 minutes. Brad Stevens has figured that out now.

Just got watch how much Horford defends embiid the playoffs and the other games.

Embiid has problems against other 7 footers. Even old Tyson chandler game embiid problems in Phoenix last December. Gasol, golbert etc. length and strength bothers embiid.

Drummond doesn’t have length and he isn’t as strong as Baynes

Embiid mid range game 10-12 foot shot was smooth last season. But this year. He’s not taking them often for some reason. That’s actually a better shot for him than 3 pointers. He doesn’t waste a lot of energy either and higher percentage shot.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#764 » by thejuice17 » Fri Dec 7, 2018 2:22 pm

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SixersRelated wrote:He has many problems against bigger guys but as said here it will come with experience. He's working hard and I think he even needs to work harder but in the end he should kill guys like JV and Drummond.

Let's see how he'll play tonight against Drummond. He should be fired up.


He will dominate Drummond, he is in his head and Drummond is a low IQ player, the question is, can he dominate, or at least play good, against Gasol, Baynes, Horford?

Until now he showed that against guys like Gasol, Baynes, Horford and even Valanciunas he sucks. As said, he should become stronger and we all know he's working hard on that. About shot selection - it's all about experience and he should try and fail to become better in shot selection.

All around, he's a great player. I think it's unfair to criticize him like this every time he's having a bad game.
his shot sellection is as worst as his idol kobe bryant

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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#765 » by thejuice17 » Fri Dec 7, 2018 2:25 pm

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It's fair to criticize him if your criticizisms are fair. You were not saying he was having a bad game or playing sloppy. You were calling him a not that talented bust. You can't really expect anyone to talk any of your opinions seriously if you believe that.


I never called him a bust, I said he is less talented than people think yes. I posted Joel Embuust one time joking about a bad play he made, but that's it.


Oh so you didn't mean it. Which is my point. No one should take what you say seriously because its nothing more than emotional overreactions. As soon as Jimmy Butler has a bad game, you'll start talking about him being overrated.
when will embiid playing a good game against hofford,baynes and Marc instead of Billy Drummond

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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#766 » by BullyKing » Fri Dec 7, 2018 2:51 pm

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BullyKing wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
I never called him a bust, I said he is less talented than people think yes. I posted Joel Embuust one time joking about a bad play he made, but that's it.


Oh so you didn't mean it. Which is my point. No one should take what you say seriously because its nothing more than emotional overreactions. As soon as Jimmy Butler has a bad game, you'll start talking about him being overrated.
when will embiid playing a good game against hofford,baynes and Marc instead of Billy Drummond

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When will I be able to comprehend any of your posts
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#767 » by BullyKing » Fri Dec 7, 2018 3:50 pm

No Embiid tonight according to Pompey. So all of you guys screaming last game "to get Embiid out of there" will have your wish of 48 minutes of Muscala and Amir.

Edit: For the record, I think this is a very smart move by Brown. Two days since the last and then we don't play again until Monday so this is a good way to get him some nice rest with only missing one game.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#768 » by Arsenal » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:07 pm

BullyKing wrote:No Embiid tonight according to Pompey. So all of you guys screaming last game "to get Embiid out of there" will have your wish of 48 minutes of Muscala and Amir.

Edit: For the record, I think this is a very smart move by Brown. Two days since the last and then we don't play again until Monday so this is a good way to get him some nice rest with only missing one game.


Should have held him out already on one or more of our back to backs, but oh well. Better late than never. It's obvious he wasn't right against Toronto.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#769 » by Chris76 » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:23 pm

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BullyKing wrote:No Embiid tonight according to Pompey. So all of you guys screaming last game "to get Embiid out of there" will have your wish of 48 minutes of Muscala and Amir.

Edit: For the record, I think this is a very smart move by Brown. Two days since the last and then we don't play again until Monday so this is a good way to get him some nice rest with only missing one game.


Should have held him out already on one or more of our back to backs, but oh well. Better late than never. It's obvious he wasn't right against Toronto.


Embiid did go down hard on his hip. He got up slow and showed some signs of concern, hip or back?
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Post#770 » by nrok10307 » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:33 pm

Embiid is going for too many chase down blocks and acrobatic drives from the 3pt line. If he keeps playing this reckless, he is going to get seriously hurt... just a matter of time. He had at least 4 moments against the Raptors - like WTF is he doing flailing around like that in a meaningless regular season game?

Would love to have him watch videos of Tim Duncan from 2008 and beyond - once Duncan hit 32 he changed his game significantly that prolonged his career another 7 years and prevented major injuries.

If Embiid goes down with a major injury, this team is done.
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Post#771 » by youngcrev » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:40 pm

BullyKing wrote:No Embiid tonight according to Pompey. So all of you guys screaming last game "to get Embiid out of there" will have your wish of 48 minutes of Muscala and Amir.

Edit: For the record, I think this is a very smart move by Brown. Two days since the last and then we don't play again until Monday so this is a good way to get him some nice rest with only missing one game.


Jo can't be happy about that, particularly since it's Drummond
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Post#772 » by XDevilBoiX » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:42 pm

BullyKing wrote:No Embiid tonight according to Pompey. So all of you guys screaming last game "to get Embiid out of there" will have your wish of 48 minutes of Muscala and Amir.

Edit: For the record, I think this is a very smart move by Brown. Two days since the last and then we don't play again until Monday so this is a good way to get him some nice rest with only missing one game.

This was coming sooner or later, he’s been playing too much. Every time the other team makes a run, Embiid gets put back into the game no matter how long his rest was. We need a defensive backup C soon, I don’t care if he can shoot or not, just someone who can prevent easy baskets and able to rebound.
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Post#773 » by kuclas » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:46 pm

Shaquille O’Neil primarily played between 54-70 games even during his peak years. We need embiid rested.

So embiid missing 10-12 games will be good for his long term health. Going 5-5 or 4-6 or 3-7 won’t really matter long term. Bonus if they go 6-4 or even 7-3.
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Post#774 » by XtremeDunkz » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:48 pm

ESPN ain't gonna be happy.

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Post#775 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 7, 2018 6:02 pm

kuclas wrote:Shaquille O’Neil primarily played between 54-70 games even during his peak years. We need embiid rested.

So embiid missing 10-12 games will be good for his long term health. Going 5-5 or 4-6 or 3-7 won’t really matter long term. Bonus if they go 6-4 or even 7-3.


That’s also the benefit of constructing a superteam. Makes them looks good every game by playing with less pressure while improves the longevity of their career. Look at GSW.
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Post#776 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 7, 2018 6:18 pm

Maybe my issue with Biid resting was he could have been rested earlier when we faced trash nba teams. But i cant blame them for playing him because we were developing our chemistry with butler and it was productive IMO.

Who knows this might turn out for the best, with Raps and Pistons not knowing what kind of a beast we have with a healthy biid and new addition of Butler
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Post#777 » by Sixerscan » Fri Dec 7, 2018 6:20 pm

76ciology wrote:Maybe my issue with Biid resting was he could have been rested earlier when we faced trash nba teams. But i cant blame them for playing him because we were developing our chemistry with butler and it was productive IMO.

Who knows this might turn out for the best, with Raps and Pistons not knowing what kind of a beast we have with a healthy biid and new addition of Butler


I assume part of this is that he wasn't receptive to sitting out games before, and now that he had a terrible game in a big time matchup because of it he is more willing to listen to reason rather than wanting to prove he's not injury prone.

I forget whether it was after the Knicks or Wizards game but he said something to the effect of "I'm glad we blew them out so this way I don't have to sit out a game"

Hopefully this is just part of his maturity. Next time he doesn't want to sit out against the Hawks or something Brown can just go "remember the Toronto game!"
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#778 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 7, 2018 6:26 pm

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76ciology wrote:Maybe my issue with Biid resting was he could have been rested earlier when we faced trash nba teams. But i cant blame them for playing him because we were developing our chemistry with butler and it was productive IMO.

Who knows this might turn out for the best, with Raps and Pistons not knowing what kind of a beast we have with a healthy biid and new addition of Butler


I assume part of this is that he wasn't receptive to sitting out games before, and now that he had a terrible game in a big time matchup because of it he is more willing to listen to reason rather than wanting to prove he's not injury prone.

I forget whether it was after the Knicks or Wizards game but he said something to the effect of "I'm glad we blew them out so this way I don't have to sit out a game"

Hopefully this is just part of his maturity. Next time he doesn't want to sit out against the Hawks or something Brown can just go "remember the Toronto game!"


Yup. knowing biid’s past history, i’d say your guess is most likely to be accurate
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Post#779 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 7, 2018 6:35 pm

AMir didnt play the game against the Raps, while Raps had JV playing off the bench.

Maybe the team already decided Biid to take a rest after the Raps game. Biid knew it and he got angry with that decision (like before), so he sabotaged that Raps game.
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Post#780 » by nrok10307 » Fri Dec 7, 2018 7:34 pm

BullyKing wrote:No Embiid tonight according to Pompey. So all of you guys screaming last game "to get Embiid out of there" will have your wish of 48 minutes of Muscala and Amir.

Edit: For the record, I think this is a very smart move by Brown. Two days since the last and then we don't play again until Monday so this is a good way to get him some nice rest with only missing one game.


It's odd that it's an all or nothing approach. Why can't he just play on a restricted minutes limit? Or why not just play the first half only?

Either he's going to play 35 minutes a game or we're going to rest him - seems extreme.

And they've had plenty of rest - Embiid had two days off between the Grizz and the Raptors; the next game is two days off when they play Pistons on Monday.

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