Around the League Discussion - 2018-2019 (Playoffs)

[BullyKing]

The chart shows what we all knew:
-Embiid is an underrated defender.
-Simmons is an overrated defender, as we all knew.
-Jah is underrated defender and is not as bad of a player as people thought.

Simmons is the highest rated point guard on the list and is in line with touted wing defenders like Danny Green and Klay Thompson.

Overrated in comparison to the other metrics and compared to what his fanboys claim as an elite defender. He is a good defender, needs to keep working to be elite.

When people call you a troll and beg the mods to ban you, this is why.

Ben Simmons and his defense/hustle isn't getting enough recognition.

He can focus on defense because he is a garbage man on offense, almost only rebounds and putbacks. Man to man defense is very impressive though.

Simmons is basically playing DPOY defense but unfrtunately is a liability on offense.

Simmons defense on Kawhi looks very good.

Simmons is playing superb defense on D'Bustelo

Fox? The guy that got lit up by Russell last night?

Simmons is one of the best defensive players in the league around his age. Especially if you remove role players.

He has been quite inconsistent at times too. So sure for his age he shows potential. He also shows a lack of effort more often than I'd like.

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You might be confusing his college version to his actual version, because it is true that he was lazy at times in college, but this season it is a different story, he has been fantastic on defense, I never really expected him to become the monster defender he is now based on what I saw of him in college.

Easily the best in the league, we will soon get to that level, Simmons is our anchor and soon to be DPOY.

Ben Simmons is an elite defender, he just changes the game on that end, advanced defensive stats are known to be very inaccurate.

[phiphan]

Simmons is the highest rated point guard on the list and is in line with touted wing defenders like Danny Green and Klay Thompson.

Overrated in comparison to the other metrics and compared to what his fanboys claim as an elite defender. He is a good defender, needs to keep working to be elite.

When people call you a troll and beg the mods to ban you, this is why.

Ben Simmons and his defense/hustle isn't getting enough recognition.

He can focus on defense because he is a garbage man on offense, almost only rebounds and putbacks. Man to man defense is very impressive though.

Simmons is basically playing DPOY defense but unfrtunately is a liability on offense.

Simmons defense on Kawhi looks very good.

Simmons is playing superb defense on D'Bustelo

He has been quite inconsistent at times too. So sure for his age he shows potential. He also shows a lack of effort more often than I'd like.

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You might be confusing his college version to his actual version, because it is true that he was lazy at times in college, but this season it is a different story, he has been fantastic on defense, I never really expected him to become the monster defender he is now based on what I saw of him in college.

Easily the best in the league, we will soon get to that level, Simmons is our anchor and soon to be DPOY.

Ben Simmons is an elite defender, he just changes the game on that end, advanced defensive stats are known to be very inaccurate.

This man just did a murder

[Bum Adebayo]

As I already mentioned in the past, it is important to differentiate between RS Simmons and playoffs Simmons, I always do. I thought he did a great job on Russell and at first on Kawhi, but team defense and overall wasn't that great in playoffs.

[BullyKing]

As I already mentioned in the past, it is important to differentiate between RS Simmons and playoffs Simmons, I always do. I thought he did a great job on Russell and at first on Kawhi, but team defense and overall wasn't that great in playoffs.

Most of those posts were from the playoffs. Just keep changing the narrative my man.

[ProcessDoctor]

The new 538 DRAYMOND metric is pretty interesting.

Outside of Andre Roberson, it has Josh Richardson as the best perimeter defender in the league.

It also accurately rates Avery Bradley as a very net negative defensively.

[USWAY]

As I already mentioned in the past, it is important to differentiate between RS Simmons and playoffs Simmons, I always do. I thought he did a great job on Russell and at first on Kawhi, but team defense and overall wasn't that great in playoffs.

Most of those posts were from the playoffs. Just keep changing the narrative my man.

What a strange dude.

[76ciology]

The new 538 DRAYMOND metric is pretty interesting.

Outside of Andre Roberson, it has Josh Richardson as the best perimeter defender in the league.

It also accurately rates Avery Bradley as a very net negative defensively.

How about Jahlil Okafor?

[Wilfried]

Pelicans seem to have had a pretty nice draft

Alexander-Walker and Jaxson Hayes are showing a lot to like in SL right now

[Negrodamus]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254849/Kevin-Durant-Initially-Objected-To-Sign-And-Trade-Forced-Warriors-To-Include-First-Round-Pick

I'm getting the suspicion that there's a lockout on the horizon after this offseason.

[ProcessDoctor]

Man Presti has an insane treasure chest to work with now.

He’ll get even more when he flips Paul somewhere else.

[76ciology]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254849/Kevin-Durant-Initially-Objected-To-Sign-And-Trade-Forced-Warriors-To-Include-First-Round-Pick

I'm getting the suspicion that there's a lockout on the horizon after this offseason.

The players are running the league. Atleast fanbase will blame ownership less while turnover of players are faster than owners. So like if you’re a lakers fan, you dont live and die with the buss family since lebron is running the show now.

I was listening to woj and he said something that made understand all this. This movement shortens the window of every team. My take is, it increases a player’s chance to move from one city to another and hopefully give chance for everyone to get a good player and be winnable.

So currently the top cities are getting filled. Next wave of FAs will settle on second to next tier cities. So teams like the Pels are prepping for the next FA class.

I hate to say this but we should be open that Biid or Ben may or may not ask to be traded to other teams in the near future. And our team may be a top tier FA destination in the near future.

It’s all good if you ask me. Faster turnover rate of players so fans get to see something new every year. Just have to accept and understand all these

[the_process]

Man Presti has an insane treasure chest to work with now.

He’ll get even more when he flips Paul somewhere else.

He is going to have to pay a little to move CP3. But CP3 and the MIA 2021 1st for James Johnson, Dion Waiters, and Tyler Herro would be a good deal for both sides.

BTW, Presti made another good deal getting all that back for Westbrook. Even if it came with CP3.

[Winejk]

Man Presti has an insane treasure chest to work with now.

He’ll get even more when he flips Paul somewhere else.

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Wow is right. Presti is out-processing the process. However, when Hinkie started all he had to trade was Holiday, Thad, Turner and Hawes. Presti is trading two all stars in their prime. Still OKC has insane amount of picks. Might as well dump Steven Adams and everyone else at this point.

[mithrandir17]

Nerlens Noel should have backed out of his deal. He took a minimum salary cause he thought he was joining a contending team.

[the_process]

Nerlens Noel should have backed out of his deal. He took a minimum salary cause he thought he was joining a contending team.

I thought Noel already backed out on OKC?

[76ciology]

Nerlens Noel should have backed out of his deal. He took a minimum salary cause he thought he was joining a contending team.

Based on his history, it’s most likely that he’s prefer the current squad where he can pad his stats to get his $tat$

Noel is like Boban. He’s a situational player. If he face Jokic, Nurkic, Enbiid or AD in a 7 game series, he’ll get exposed. This also explains why no teams are looking to overpay for him. He’s not a starter for a contender, in this league.

[mithrandir17]

Nerlens Noel should have backed out of his deal. He took a minimum salary cause he thought he was joining a contending team.

Based on his history, it’s most likely that he’s prefer the current squad where he can pad his stats to get his $tat$

Noel is like Boban. He’s a situational player. If he face Jokic, Nurkic, Enbiid or AD in a 7 game series, he’ll get exposed. This also explains why no teams are looking to overpay for him

He won't be able to pad his stats if he is playing behind Adams.

[mithrandir17]

Nerlens Noel should have backed out of his deal. He took a minimum salary cause he thought he was joining a contending team.

I thought Noel already backed out on OKC?

I think they just reworked his deal. Not sure of the details of his new contract but that was before all of these trades happen.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

The new 538 DRAYMOND metric is pretty interesting.

Outside of Andre Roberson, it has Josh Richardson as the best perimeter defender in the league.

It also accurately rates Avery Bradley as a very net negative defensively.

How about Jahlil Okafor?

Oh dude, i'm still out here rooting for Okafor....And Evan Turner. Both broke my heart.

[BullyKing]

I just read a few of the more recent articles about Fultz. They are pretty much word for word the same stuff we read this time last summer. I don't devote my life to running the kid down like someone else and I'm actually rooting for him but man am I happy to not be dealing with it anymore.