Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

phillynative · Post #781 » by **phillynative** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 10:24 am

Maybe Embiid should of gotten his surgery. Sat out. Bens not coming back and Tobi is not ideal. Let the young guys play, develop and stat pad , get a high pick. Attach Maxey or the high pick to Simmons to get a legit star.

Samson · Post #782 » by **Samson** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 10:48 am

DCasey91 wrote:Harris and a 1st for Irving
Simmons for Murray, Young, Vassell, 1st top 5 protected

**** Westbrick

Easy.

Murray
Irving
Vassell
Niang
Embiid

Curry
Maxey
Thybulle
Young
Drummond

Seems pretty good

What is it going to take around here to get you to give up the Irving BS?

I am honestly serious. You're almost as bad as the other guy.

76ciology · Post #783 » by **76ciology** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 12:47 pm

Rastas wrote:
76ciology wrote:With the way things are going, we better hope we land with a top 3 pick. Jabari, Paolo or Chet would be great fit on our team.

If that’s your mindset, I dont think you’ll be stressed with all the BS returns for BS.

Doubt Sixers could land in the bottom 5 to get a Top pick.

Jahlil Okafor is a free agent

76ciology · Post #784 » by **76ciology** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 12:47 pm

phillynative wrote:Maybe Embiid should of gotten his surgery. Sat out. Bens not coming back and Tobi is not ideal. Let the young guys play, develop and stat pad , get a high pick. Attach Maxey or the high pick to Simmons to get a legit star.

Slowly turning into 2019-2020 or 2020-2021 GSW season for us.

Kobblehead · Post #785 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 1:26 pm

I only see Jarbari Smith as a great fit with us.

Banchero would just be a better defensive Tobias (all the same flaws offensively). Holmgren would make our lineup even weirder because we'd have to play him at PF and slide Harris down to the SF spot where he's even more awkward defensively.

the_process · Post #786 » by **the_process** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 2:20 pm

Mik317 wrote:team isn't going to fix all of its problem in one season nor are they going to trade both Ben and Tobias (and the latter not at all lol)

Only if Morey is washed as a GM.

Which is entirely possible by the data we have to go by so far.

That's what they need to do and it's fairly obvious.

mjkvol · Post #787 » by **mjkvol** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 2:35 pm

the_process wrote:
Mik317 wrote:team isn't going to fix all of its problem in one season nor are they going to trade both Ben and Tobias (and the latter not at all lol)

Only if Morey is washed as a GM.

Which is entirely possible by the data we have to go by so far.

That's what they need to do and it's fairly obvious.

Is it possible that Morey has gone to ownership with the idea of blowing up the season and moving not only Harris and Simmons but also any others that will bring back youth and picks but has been rejected because ownership has no stomach for another tank, even a one season job? If that's the case, his hands are tied and his options severely limited.

the_process · Post #788 » by **the_process** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 3:08 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
Mik317 wrote:team isn't going to fix all of its problem in one season nor are they going to trade both Ben and Tobias (and the latter not at all lol)

Only if Morey is washed as a GM.

Which is entirely possible by the data we have to go by so far.

That's what they need to do and it's fairly obvious.

Is it possible that Morey has gone to ownership with the idea of blowing up the season and moving not only Harris and Simmons but also any others that will bring back youth and picks but has been rejected because ownership has no stomach for another tank, even a one season job? If that's the case, his hands are tied and his options severely limited.

I was gonna write something the other day about how the owners still need to sell and GTFO, but thought it too reactionary.

76ciology · Post #789 » by **76ciology** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 3:24 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I only see Jarbari Smith as a great fit with us.

Banchero would just be a better defensive Tobias (all the same flaws offensively). Holmgren would make our lineup even weirder because we'd have to play him at PF and slide Harris down to the SF spot where he's even more awkward defensively.

Get me one of them, then we’ll talk. LOL

phillynative · Post #790 » by **phillynative** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 4:05 pm

the_process wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
Only if Morey is washed as a GM.

Which is entirely possible by the data we have to go by so far.

That's what they need to do and it's fairly obvious.

Is it possible that Morey has gone to ownership with the idea of blowing up the season and moving not only Harris and Simmons but also any others that will bring back youth and picks but has been rejected because ownership has no stomach for another tank, even a one season job? If that's the case, his hands are tied and his options severely limited.

I was gonna write something the other day about how the owners still need to sell and GTFO, but thought it too reactionary.

No its not they are clueless

Zumramania · Post #791 » by **Zumramania** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 7:33 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
Mik317 wrote:team isn't going to fix all of its problem in one season nor are they going to trade both Ben and Tobias (and the latter not at all lol)

Only if Morey is washed as a GM.

Which is entirely possible by the data we have to go by so far.

That's what they need to do and it's fairly obvious.

Is it possible that Morey has gone to ownership with the idea of blowing up the season and moving not only Harris and Simmons but also any others that will bring back youth and picks but has been rejected because ownership has no stomach for another tank, even a one season job? If that's the case, his hands are tied and his options severely limited.

Even if we move all those pieces, we would have to fill the roster and assuming we keep Maxey and Embiid, it would probably not be a tank job. Ben is not playing anyway, Tobias is getting very close to addition by subtraction and if we move some other guys we would give minutes to Isiah Joe and Paul Reed, and this team would probably get to playoffs in my opinion. The only way we can tank in any situation is if Joel misses games.

eyeatoma · Post #792 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:05 pm

Read on Twitter

This would make the wait so worth it. Please let this happen!

KramerDSP · Post #793 » by **KramerDSP** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:15 pm

I would absolutely overpay for Shai. As far as I’m concerned, he’s a basketball genius who has the best chance of replicating Chris Paul’s career.

the_process · Post #794 » by **the_process** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:30 pm

SGA is precisely the type of guy they should be going after. I'd be willing to throw almost everything in for him.

Negrodamus · Post #795 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:47 pm

Obviously I'd like it, but it would be bittersweet since we could have had him for nothing if we didn't make a massive commitment to a PG who forgot how to shoot.

stormi · Post #796 » by **stormi** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 10:04 pm

eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

This would make the wait so worth it. Please let this happen!

WHATTTTT?

PLEASE.

stormi · Post #797 » by **stormi** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 10:05 pm

I'd give Ben and Maxey and possibly a pick for SGA.

That's a franchise pillar for the next decade.

kuclas · Post #798 » by **kuclas** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 11:02 pm

stormi wrote:I'd give Ben and Maxey and possibly a pick for SGA.

That's a franchise pillar for the next decade.

Okc is gonna to tank one more season.

I can see them stock piling more picks shift Simmons to Minnesota for more picks.

Personally I think SGA is a good player he will be a good fit.
But he’s not ever gonna to be a top 15 nba player. But with embiid we just need someone who’s a top 30
Nba player who can be reliable down the stretch as second/first option who can handle the ball.

Post #799 » by **Stanford** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 11:18 pm

LOL, open to trading for. What a scoop.

mjkvol · Post #800 » by **mjkvol** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 11:21 pm

Zumramania wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
Only if Morey is washed as a GM.

Which is entirely possible by the data we have to go by so far.

That's what they need to do and it's fairly obvious.

Is it possible that Morey has gone to ownership with the idea of blowing up the season and moving not only Harris and Simmons but also any others that will bring back youth and picks but has been rejected because ownership has no stomach for another tank, even a one season job? If that's the case, his hands are tied and his options severely limited.

Even if we move all those pieces, we would have to fill the roster and assuming we keep Maxey and Embiid, it would probably not be a tank job. Ben is not playing anyway, Tobias is getting very close to addition by subtraction and if we move some other guys we would give minutes to Isiah Joe and Paul Reed, and this team would probably get to playoffs in my opinion. The only way we can tank in any situation is if Joel misses games.

That's true, and I'd have to believe that any move like that would have to be sold to Joel first, possibly by convincing him that getting the surgery he needs and rehabbing while we see what the younger players can offer and acquiring trade ammo would be the most effective way to title contention.

That's a pipe dream, of course. It would involve Embiid giving up a season of his career at age 28, and would have to include a coaching change if it was a serious reboot. I can't see those things happening, and the way Harris has become a defacto leader, clubhouse spokesman, community asset, and all around 'great guy', it's hard to imagine ownership okaying his being jettisoned.