2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

Eyeamok · Post #81 » by **Eyeamok** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:54 pm

This was posted on the Celtics board too funny.

ViperGTS wrote:I posted this on the other thread but here is Danny (the fan) and Philly, the Iceman.

Read on Twitter
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76thBearCub · Post #82 » by **76thBearCub** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:52 pm

Somebody alert me on the math and what I should be rooting for with this weird LAL stipulation and with the Kings pick tied to it.

mithrandir17 · Post #83 » by **mithrandir17** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:36 am

76thBearCub wrote:Somebody alert me on the math and what I should be rooting for with this weird LAL stipulation and with the Kings pick tied to it.

You should root for the lakers to win atleast 30 games, which is probably good enough to be a 6th pick in the lottery or root for the lakers to win the 1st pick in the draft lottery. If Boston doesn't get the lakers pick, then sacramento should win every game possible in 2018-19 season so that their pick is as low as possible.

Chris76 · Post #84 » by **Chris76** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:03 pm

mithrandir17 wrote:
76thBearCub wrote:Somebody alert me on the math and what I should be rooting for with this weird LAL stipulation and with the Kings pick tied to it.

You should root for the lakers to win atleast 30 games, which is probably good enough to be a 6th pick in the lottery or root for the lakers to win the 1st pick in the draft lottery. If Boston doesn't get the lakers pick, then sacramento should win every game possible in 2018-19 season so that their pick is as low as possible.

Good description of possibilities. Another outcome is the Lakers make progress and the Sixers get a mid lotto pick 8 to 12, then Boston gets the Sac 2019 pick. Not the best outcome, but Fultz fits so well with our core, it really doesn't matter. Fultz can be a 6'4 Allen Iverson with a 6'10 wingspan. A better defender than AI with a great shot from 3. The train is moving now!

broseph13 · Post #85 » by **broseph13** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:15 pm

I'm hoping this team gives up the 2018 LA pick and retains the 2019 Sac pick. Personally, I'm not that impressed by any of the guys who are likely to go top 5 next year (although I do like Colin Sexton a lot but he probably won't be a top 5 pick) and would much rather make a strong attempt to land Zion Williamson in 2019.

shawn_hemp · Post #86 » by **shawn_hemp** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:38 pm

I'd rather the Celtics get the Lakers pick at 5 and we keep the Kings pick

ckchen · Post #87 » by **ckchen** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:14 pm

All of this talk about what to root for and wanting to keep the Kings pick is pretty ridiculous - that's two seasons away, literally anything can happen to that pick and even discussing it right now is completely meaningless and without context. What if Papagiannis suddenly breaks out Jokic-style and the Kings massively improve somehow and they draft Jayson Tatum and he turns out to be the best rookie ever. What if at the end of 2018, the 2019 draft is the deemed the weakest draft ever and that anyone in the top 10 players from 2018 would all be drafted #1 in that draft? I'm not saying any of this is probable, but saying that RIGHT now you'd rather have the Kings pick over the Lakers is basically meaningless.

You have to see how ridiculous it is. You all might as well be saying "Well, I'll be rooting for Lakers to go 0-82, win the #1 pick in the lottery so we keep it and the next year the Kings go 82-0 so the Celtics get the #30 pick."

BigSleep333 · Post #88 » by **BigSleep333** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:24 pm

ckchen wrote:All of this talk about what to root for and wanting to keep the Kings pick is pretty ridiculous - that's two seasons away, literally anything can happen to that pick and even discussing it right now is completely meaningless and without context. What if Papagiannis suddenly breaks out Jokic-style and the Kings massively improve somehow and they draft Jayson Tatum and he turns out to be the best rookie ever. What if at the end of 2018, the 2019 draft is the deemed the weakest draft ever and that anyone in the top 10 players from 2018 would all be drafted #1 in that draft? I'm not saying any of this is probable, but saying that RIGHT now you'd rather have the Kings pick over the Lakers is basically meaningless.

You have to see how ridiculous it is. You all might as well be saying "Well, I'll be rooting for Lakers to go 0-82, win the #1 pick in the lottery so we keep it and the next year the Kings go 82-0 so the Celtics get the #30 pick."

what if pigs can fly

Wilfried · Post #89 » by **Wilfried** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:25 pm

shawn_hemp wrote:I'd rather the Celtics get the Lakers pick at 5 and we keep the Kings pick

That would be the ideal scenario.

ckchen · Post #90 » by **ckchen** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:33 pm

BigSleep333 wrote:
ckchen wrote:All of this talk about what to root for and wanting to keep the Kings pick is pretty ridiculous - that's two seasons away, literally anything can happen to that pick and even discussing it right now is completely meaningless and without context. What if Papagiannis suddenly breaks out Jokic-style and the Kings massively improve somehow and they draft Jayson Tatum and he turns out to be the best rookie ever. What if at the end of 2018, the 2019 draft is the deemed the weakest draft ever and that anyone in the top 10 players from 2018 would all be drafted #1 in that draft? I'm not saying any of this is probable, but saying that RIGHT now you'd rather have the Kings pick over the Lakers is basically meaningless.

You have to see how ridiculous it is. You all might as well be saying "Well, I'll be rooting for Lakers to go 0-82, win the #1 pick in the lottery so we keep it and the next year the Kings go 82-0 so the Celtics get the #30 pick."

what if pigs can fly

Very true, again, I'm clearly not saying any of that will happen, I'm just trying to illustrate how silly it is for someone to be rooting for something where the resulting outcome is literally two seasons away and there's absolutely no context for it. I could argue that the King's record wasn't nearly as terrible as everyone predicted after they traded away Cousins, and it's not within the realm of impossibility that their current roster of players improve and they just happen to draft well this year. There are so many unknowns about that pick, that draft, etc. that I think it's pretty pointless to be talking about it like it's definitely going to be better than whatever the Laker's pick turns out to be next year.

BigSleep333 · Post #91 » by **BigSleep333** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:46 pm

you have to understand, this is an sports forum where people like to discuss every single nuance on anything

it doesnt influence a bit how it works out, but some just like to go through all scenarios..

everything has a possibility. possibility of papagiannis breaking out is 0,1 %. the possibility that the lakers and kings are bad the next years is pretty high, so i think its plausible to keep an eye on those teams, no matter it has zero effect on the outcome of it

smittybanton · Post #92 » by **smittybanton** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:52 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski: For now, LA resisting salary dumps on Mozgov or Deng needed to clear future space. Teams trying to snag pick/young player to absorb deals. – via Twitter WojVerticalNBA

There's a dearth of centers out there in free agency. Cristiano Felicio is going to get paid. Nerlens is getting a rookie max offer. The Lakers should wait to see who misses out and try to ship Mozgov there for free or at minimal cost. Phoenix is a possible destination, if the market for Alex Len is hotter than expected.

smittybanton · Post #93 » by **smittybanton** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:54 pm

Chad Ford: Sounds like Lakers are dangling D’Angelo Russell in effort to get another Top 12 pick. Luke Kennard & Zach Collins appear to be targets – via Twitter chadfordinsider

Wilfried · Post #94 » by **Wilfried** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:04 pm

It's Chad Ford folks

Eyeamok · Post #95 » by **Eyeamok** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:07 pm

ckchen wrote:All of this talk about what to root for and wanting to keep the Kings pick is pretty ridiculous - that's two seasons away, literally anything can happen to that pick and even discussing it right now is completely meaningless and without context. What if Papagiannis suddenly breaks out Jokic-style and the Kings massively improve somehow and they draft Jayson Tatum and he turns out to be the best rookie ever. What if at the end of 2018, the 2019 draft is the deemed the weakest draft ever and that anyone in the top 10 players from 2018 would all be drafted #1 in that draft? I'm not saying any of this is probable, but saying that RIGHT now you'd rather have the Kings pick over the Lakers is basically meaningless.

You have to see how ridiculous it is. You all might as well be saying "Well, I'll be rooting for Lakers to go 0-82, win the #1 pick in the lottery so we keep it and the next year the Kings go 82-0 so the Celtics get the #30 pick."

Why you got to be a dream buster buddy? I just want to talk basketball and possibilities. Is that so wrong? It's the summer time and we know who we are drafting this week. I want to project like Hinkie did....let me live?

smittybanton · Post #96 » by **smittybanton** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:19 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246361/Lakers-Trade-DAngelo-Russell-Timofey-Mozgov-To-Nets-For-Brook-Lopez-No-27

plead.5th · Post #97 » by **plead.5th** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:40 pm

So the ideal scenario isn't LAL and Sac both winning the Lottery the next 2 years?

Negrodamus · Post #98 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:46 pm

smittybanton wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246361/Lakers-Trade-DAngelo-Russell-Timofey-Mozgov-To-Nets-For-Brook-Lopez-No-27

Wow. That's crazy. To be fair, Mozgov is on a ridiculous contract.

I wonder how their going to get George now.

cksdayoff · Post #99 » by **cksdayoff** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:49 pm

HOLY SHTTT

We could have gotten DLo for cheap

LongLiveHinkie · Post #100 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:52 pm

It's becoming more and more likely that the Kings pick will be the one going to Boston. Lopez is better short-term for the Lakers and if they get George this summer then they won't be a playoff team but they'll win in the upper 30's.