Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

Madd Squabbles · Post #81 » by **Madd Squabbles** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:47 am

76ciology wrote:We can just wait it out where teams will be more desperate to make it to the playoffs while we get a clearer picture on picks we may end up with.

Playing against the Bucks showed us how we need lengthy 4 who can shoot, so I also dont mind if we end up with Jerami Grant, Porzingis or Boucher and maybe a pick or another scorer.

I would actually do Grant for Simmons in a heartbeat!

stormi · Post #82 » by **stormi** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:38 am

I'd do Grant for Harris.

Grant, Harris and Embiid though is disgusting to imagine. We've already lived through the 2019-2020 Sixers.

DCasey91 · Post #83 » by **DCasey91** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:50 am

Mr Chim wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:It’s happening the 3 way deal! Yes I do have a crystal ball muahahahaha!

Alternatively there’s one Kawhi Leonard opening on December, hmmm for a Mercenary he has an all time ceiling and can legit bring us to the promise land.

I mean for a full arc story that would be incredible, would be hard to stomach though. Yeah that’s probably fantasy.

The Kwisatz Haderach

“Hope clouds observation.”

What an experience!

Tomjas · Post #84 » by **Tomjas** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:55 am

Detroit don’t have a 2022 first round pick

They should be desperate for the equivalent

stormi · Post #85 » by **stormi** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:02 am

Tomjas wrote:Detroit don’t have a 2022 first round pick

They should be desperate for the equivalent

Their pick is essentially lottery protected. They're keeping that.

Tomjas · Post #86 » by **Tomjas** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:07 am

stormi wrote:
Tomjas wrote:Detroit don’t have a 2022 first round pick

They should be desperate for the equivalent

Their pick is essentially lottery protected. They're keeping that.

Okay then full tank

76ciology · Post #87 » by **76ciology** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:31 am

Would you do..

Ben Simmons and Shake Milton for Porzingis and Brunson?

Ben seems like a good fit with THJ and Doncic.

Porzingis could provide us that defense Paul Reed showed against Giannis while being able to stretch the floor while Brunson is an upgrade over Milton

Iverson Armband · Post #88 » by **Iverson Armband** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:25 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Guys if Wall and Westbrook can be moved then yes both Harris and Ben can too. People have agendas and emotions in high enough positions. Then mistakes happen.

Wolves GM
Pelicans GM
Blazers GM
Kings GM

All in warmer waters than our one. Our one went to the bargain basement aisle and got diamonds lol.

Funny how patience is a virtue. All of us said it would be like this. Let the fishes circles and frenzy themselves out.

We get a good deal. Thank them, keep quiet and move onto the next potential good deal. Trading 101.

For Ben its just a market waiting game now. Whoever mentioned the December opening is a smart cookie.

I bet ya the value is the same as it was pre draft.

But I see both as being addition by subtraction as long as the players coming back fit and that’s pretty self explanatory on the types that thrive here.

Those 10 games I mentioned earlier are bringing up some nice results for us. Kings just lost to the tank/not tanking? Sam Presti plays 2k team. (Won 4 in a row now)

Bro, Wall and Westbrook were traded for each other. Bum for bum.

They weren’t traded for stars which is what Morey is asking for. No one is saying Ben can’t be traded at all, but there’s a huge difference in asking price here.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #89 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:23 pm

76ciology wrote:Would you do..

Ben Simmons and Shake Milton for Porzingis and Brunson?

Ben seems like a good fit with THJ and Doncic.

Porzingis could provide us that defense Paul Reed showed against Giannis while being able to stretch the floor while Brunson is an upgrade over Milton

Yes, I would do that. KP's role would be a major question mark long term, but short term he'd be great coming off the bench with us chasing a ring. Brunson would be the real prize here, but yes! Sign me up. How much remains on KPs contract?

Kobblehead · Post #90 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:34 pm

76ciology wrote:Would you do..

Ben Simmons and Shake Milton for Porzingis and Brunson?

Ben seems like a good fit with THJ and Doncic.

Porzingis could provide us that defense Paul Reed showed against Giannis while being able to stretch the floor while Brunson is an upgrade over Milton

Personally, I would not.

Prozingis is perpetually unhappy and his role in Philly would be shakey at best. An almost guarantee that he's starts complaining and sulking here.

I prefer Milton over Brunson. Shake has superior size, of course, and he's a more willing shooter.

Post #91 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:12 pm

No on Porzingis

the_process · Post #92 » by **the_process** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:02 pm

Send Drummond to CHA for a 2nd.

Then:

Simmons, Milton, Springer, and Kuzma to DET
Bertans, Olynyk, Grant, Hayes, and Jackson to PHI
Harris to WSH

the_process · Post #93 » by **the_process** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:03 pm

If you want to take a chance on Porzingis, you trade Tobias for him, not Simmons.

the_process · Post #94 » by **the_process** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:08 pm

Tomjas wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Guys if Wall and Westbrook can be moved then yes both Harris and Ben can too. People have agendas and emotions in high enough positions. Then mistakes happen.

Wolves GM
Pelicans GM
Blazers GM
Kings GM

All in warmer waters than our one. Our one went to the bargain basement aisle and got diamonds lol.

Funny how patience is a virtue. All of us said it would be like this. Let the fishes circles and frenzy themselves out.

We get a good deal. Thank them, keep quiet and move onto the next potential good deal. Trading 101.

For Ben its just a market waiting game now. Whoever mentioned the December opening is a smart cookie.

I bet ya the value is the same as it was pre draft.

But I see both as being addition by subtraction as long as the players coming back fit and that’s pretty self explanatory on the types that thrive here.

Those 10 games I mentioned earlier are bringing up some nice results for us. Kings just lost to the tank/not tanking? Sam Presti plays 2k team. (Won 4 in a row now)

Shop away

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/09/players-who-cant-be-traded-until-december-15-5.html

December 15th is important because of filler salaries that can be moved.

Philly's Best · Post #95 » by **Philly's Best** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:17 pm

Yes, mainly Danny Green. Honestly probably our biggest holdup :lol:

stormi · Post #96 » by **stormi** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:08 pm

76ciology wrote:Would you do..

Ben Simmons and Shake Milton for Porzingis and Brunson?

Ben seems like a good fit with THJ and Doncic.

Porzingis could provide us that defense Paul Reed showed against Giannis while being able to stretch the floor while Brunson is an upgrade over Milton

Jalen Brunson is super cold and a clear upgrade over Malik Milton imo imo. Porzingod is such a bipolar enigma though. And he's always getting hurt. Also a god awful defender in space. I think we can do better.

Madd Squabbles · Post #97 » by **Madd Squabbles** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:14 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Just need to hang on a little longer. Sacto, Portland, Minny, and New Orleans are all about to blow.

Pels can not win another game this year. They will never trade for Simmons as long as Zion is still there. Don't know why people keep monitoring the losses in New Orleans. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

syntax · Post #98 » by **syntax** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:46 pm

Should have traded for Dejounte Murray before he came out this season averaging 18,8,8 2stl

kriss73 · Post #99 » by **kriss73** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:29 pm

Madd Squabbles wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Just need to hang on a little longer. Sacto, Portland, Minny, and New Orleans are all about to blow.

Pels can not win another game this year. They will never trade for Simmons as long as Zion is still there. Don't know why people keep monitoring the losses in New Orleans. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Because three-way trades exist.

davesilver · Post #100 » by **davesilver** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:00 pm

KAT to Pelicans
Ingram to Sixers
Simmons, PHI 2022 FRP to Wolves

Ant Dlo Ben > Ant Dlo KAT. I believe KAT's time in Minny is coming to a close and they need to focus on building around Ant.

Maxey DG/Curry Ingram Harris Embiid. Maybe ship Harris/assets for a guy like Grant.

KAT is the perfect 5 to play next to Zion. Can probably win with Zion+KAT, a decent backcourt, and a 3&D guy.