Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0

[mjkvol]

The Sixers:

-Dealt with the Simmons nonsense all year like you said. Not only in the locker room and dealing with that, but didn't have one of their best players for like 70% of the season.

-Had a COVID breakout where Embiid missed several games, where the Sixers then plummeted in the standings.

-Finished a mere 2 games out of first place with all of that.

-Took the #1 seed to 6 games, 2 of which their best player didn't play, the other 4 they split and Embiid couldn't shoot, pass, dribble, grip the ball, or be physical down low because if he got hit in the face with a hard blow he could severely damage his eye permanently. The 2 playoff games they did have with a healthy Embiid, they absolutely crushed the Raptors--a team that gave them fits all season.

And somehow people are more down on the Sixers now than they were this time a year ago. I simply don't get it. Like I said a few days ago, it's this whoa is me attitude Sixers fans have developed after years of losing. There are no current super teams, Embiid continues to get better, Maxey continues to get better. We'll see how Harden performs with a full offseason to actually train and you hope his hamstring was an issue and he'll look more explosive next season. Cross your fingers Windhorst was right when he said Morey has some plan to land a star. If not, at the very least you hope he fills out the bench. Sixers fans have all the reason in the world to be optimistic.

I don't think everyone is as down on the Sixers as you're making it seem like. There are some that have legitimate concerns given Harden's age and Embiid's injury history, but I'm not sure anyone here (aside from a few who have agendas) will be pessimistic if Morey gets done what he needs to this summer by tightening the bench, jettisoning the dead weight, and adding some athleticism and versatility to the rotation. And of course if Harden comes to camp in shape and injury free.

Spike Eskin on the Ricky said last night that this is the lowest feeling he's had during the process era since Hinkie was fired.

And I've heard and seen several people say they feel at their lowest.

Of course there are concerns though, every team has concerns.

The next time I listen to Spike Eskin or 'the Ricky', whatever that is, will be the first. Are these voices of authority, that anything they say means a damn thing? Do you honestly care what any media hack believes? Next you'll be quoting Steven Smith.

We have a good cross section of fans here that follow the team closely (who have just as much if not more knowledge than any of the media "experts", who are essentially fans with a microphone), and I see a lot of positive viewpoints on the Sixers, with the obvious concerns we've discussed ad nauseum.

[FireMorey]

I don't think everyone is as down on the Sixers as you're making it seem like. There are some that have legitimate concerns given Harden's age and Embiid's injury history, but I'm not sure anyone here (aside from a few who have agendas) will be pessimistic if Morey gets done what he needs to this summer by tightening the bench, jettisoning the dead weight, and adding some athleticism and versatility to the rotation. And of course if Harden comes to camp in shape and injury free.

Spike Eskin on the Ricky said last night that this is the lowest feeling he's had during the process era since Hinkie was fired.

And I've heard and seen several people say they feel at their lowest.

Of course there are concerns though, every team has concerns.

The next time I listen to Spike Eskin or 'the Ricky', whatever that is, will be the first. Are these voices of authority, that anything they say means a damn thing? Do you honestly care what any media hack believes? Next you'll be quoting Steven Smith.

We have a good cross section of fans here that follow the team closely (who have just as much if not more knowledge than any of the media "experts", who are essentially fans with a microphone), and I see a lot of positive viewpoints on the Sixers, with the obvious concerns we've discussed ad nauseum.

There isn't a such thing as an authority on sports, all it is, is opinions.

I'm sharing that I've heard some people say they right now are more down on the Sixers than they've been in a while since you suggested me stating that may not necessarily be true. My general feeling is more people right now are apathetic or down on the Sixers than people were last year at this time. Main reason is people are 100% convinced Harden is shot, and last year people still had the hope the Sixers would flip Simmons for a star.

[Iverson Armband]

I don't think everyone is as down on the Sixers as you're making it seem like. There are some that have legitimate concerns given Harden's age and Embiid's injury history, but I'm not sure anyone here (aside from a few who have agendas) will be pessimistic if Morey gets done what he needs to this summer by tightening the bench, jettisoning the dead weight, and adding some athleticism and versatility to the rotation. And of course if Harden comes to camp in shape and injury free.

Spike Eskin on the Ricky said last night that this is the lowest feeling he's had during the process era since Hinkie was fired.

And I've heard and seen several people say they feel at their lowest.

Of course there are concerns though, every team has concerns.

The next time I listen to Spike Eskin or 'the Ricky', whatever that is, will be the first. Are these voices of authority, that anything they say means a damn thing? Do you honestly care what any media hack believes? Next you'll be quoting Steven Smith.

We have a good cross section of fans here that follow the team closely (who have just as much if not more knowledge than any of the media "experts", who are essentially fans with a microphone), and I see a lot of positive viewpoints on the Sixers, with the obvious concerns we've discussed ad nauseum.

Apparently, if you think a healthy Sixers squad (Embiid-who’s never healthy) wouldn’t have made the finals, you’re down on the Sixers. It’s just an extremely blind homer way to look at things and not giving other teams/players the appropriate amount of credit.

Any reasonably objective fan would say as constructed, the Sixers are in the range of a 6-8 team in the league, with the ability to jump in to the top 4 with 1-2 shrewd moves from Morey. Any declaration above that is just wishful thinking and talking to talk.

[76ciology]

If I’m the Jazz, I’d trade Gobert for Jerami Grant and the 5th pick.

Get me Sharpe or Keegan with Jerami Grant. Then sign Drummond at C.

[Iverson Armband]

If I’m the Jazz, I’d trade Gobert for Jerami Grant and the 5th pick.

Get me Sharpe or Keegan with Jerami Grant. Then sign Drummond at C.

Why is Detroit doing that though?

[76ciology]

If I’m the Jazz, I’d trade Gobert for Jerami Grant and the 5th pick.

Get me Sharpe or Keegan with Jerami Grant. Then sign Drummond at C.

Why is Detroit doing that though?

Because they’re detroit. They just want to make the playoffs and roll the dice.

We saw a lot of team just roll the dice after they land a stud rather than go through years of rebuild, and it worked nicely.. bucks with giannis, mavs with Doncic or Celts with Their non-rebuild years.

Pistons also have this “defensive minded” identity that Gobert is almost the perfect image for this

Im not saying this is what they SHOULD do. It’s just one of the options that they could do.

[Arsenal]

I think you’ll be surprised how little Gobert fetches in trade. It won’t be that much. He proven to be exploitable in the playoffs.

[76ciology]

I think you’ll be surprised how little Gobert fetches in trade. It won’t be that much. He proven to be exploitable in the playoffs.

Totally agree with this. And that’s why Jazz should unload him before his value totally collapse into John Wall/Westbrook status.

[76ciology]

Marcus Smart over Ben Simmons.

Plays 2 way. Gives you the defense you need. Never a liability on the floor.

Talent isnt everything.

Talent in context of how playoffs is played and the nature of team construction, is everything

[Iverson Armband]

If I’m the Jazz, I’d trade Gobert for Jerami Grant and the 5th pick.

Get me Sharpe or Keegan with Jerami Grant. Then sign Drummond at C.

Why is Detroit doing that though?

Because they’re detroit. They just want to make the playoffs and roll the dice.

We saw a lot of team just roll the dice after they land a stud rather than go through years of rebuild, and it worked nicely.. bucks with giannis, mavs with Doncic or Celts with Their non-rebuild years.

Pistons also have this “defensive minded” identity that Gobert is almost the perfect image for this

Im not saying this is what they SHOULD do. It’s just one of the options that they could do.

Fair enough, package is a little rich IMO. But I could see Detroit doing it for Grant + a future lottery protected first next year or something like that. Not the 5 overall pick this year.

[76ciology]

You’re seeing the value of drafting Kuminga and Wiseman. Think how good this warriors will be if they can upgrade Green and Looney.

[stormi]

Surrounding star players by defensively sound roleplayers that can rebound and chuck 3's is the formula.

Harden, Maxey, Embiid is the core. Insulate them with Boucher, Springer, Wendell Moore, Reed, Bassey, Bullock, KCP.

No more fake scorer types.

[ProcessDoctor]

The Steph game. Man that was sweet.

[mjkvol]

The Steph game. Man that was sweet.

Greatest player of the current era, one of the greatest all time. Completely changed the game, and still defines the way it's played today.

[Embiid P]

Glad the C's fans will be quiet for at least the next few days.

[76thBearCub]

Wizard

[76ciology]

Predictable huh?

Tatum attacks Curry or Curry attacks white. Collapse the defense. Kick it out to shooter or do the extra pass then kick it out to shooter.

And if your alpha is not matching up with your opponent’s alpha, you play small and tries to make up for it. While if your alpha is scoring better than your opponent’s alpha, you can play big and have the edge on defense and extra possessions.

[76ciology]

The Steph game. Man that was sweet.

Greatest player of the current era, one of the greatest all time. Completely changed the game, and still defines the way it's played today.

Exactly.

[76ciology]

Surrounding star players by defensively sound roleplayers that can rebound and chuck 3's is the formula.

Harden, Maxey, Embiid is the core. Insulate them with Boucher, Springer, Wendell Moore, Reed, Bassey, Bullock, KCP.

No more fake scorer types.

Agree. But kick out springer, i dont like him hahaha

[Embiid P]

I thought the game didn't have to be as close as it was. GS settled for way too many quick 3s in transition when they could have had an easy path to the basket.