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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#81 » by JordanMars » Tue Jan 7, 2025 3:34 am

3 Way Trade:

PG to GSW

Jimmy to Philly

Wiggins, Kuminga, salary filler, Picks to miami
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#82 » by M2J » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:14 am

Honestly, I'm not even mad at George. I wasn't even expecting him to have to play this hard on defense. That's what Caleb and Kelly are for and they're doing their job too. Truth be told The offense running through George looks completely lost and his best bet is to really figure out a two-man game with Maxey to free up driving lanes for himself. He's pretty much just taking contested jumpers and 3s.... Impart because there is not enough spacing without Joel. With Joel and Maxey, he's a spacer rightfully and just missing shots sometimes.


This style with him is going to be inconsistent, and maybe they should give him a rest to help with his explosion.


I miss Jared, he'd help with all of this
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#83 » by the_process » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:26 am

They should switch gears now while they still can and tank it up. Just sit out Embiid and PG.

Next 15 games:

Wed, Jan 8
 vs Washington 


Fri, Jan 10
 vs New Orleans


Sun, Jan 12
 @ Orlando

Tue, Jan 14
 vs Oklahoma City
Wed, Jan 15 vs New York

Sat, Jan 18
 @ Indiana

Sun, Jan 19
 @ Milwaukee

Tue, Jan 21
 @ Denver

Fri, Jan 24
 vs Cleveland

Sat, Jan 25 
@ Chicago

Tue, Jan 28
 vs LA Lakers

Wed, Jan 29
 vs Sacramento

Fri, Jan 31
 vs Denver


Sun, Feb 2
 vs Boston


Tue, Feb 4
 vs Dallas
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#84 » by M2J » Tue Jan 7, 2025 5:20 am

the_process wrote:They should switch gears now while they still can and tank it up. Just sit out Embiid and PG.

Next 15 games:

Wed, Jan 8
 vs Washington 


Fri, Jan 10
 vs New Orleans


Sun, Jan 12
 @ Orlando

Tue, Jan 14
 vs Oklahoma City
Wed, Jan 15 vs New York

Sat, Jan 18
 @ Indiana

Sun, Jan 19
 @ Milwaukee

Tue, Jan 21
 @ Denver

Fri, Jan 24
 vs Cleveland

Sat, Jan 25 
@ Chicago

Tue, Jan 28
 vs LA Lakers

Wed, Jan 29
 vs Sacramento

Fri, Jan 31
 vs Denver


Sun, Feb 2
 vs Boston


Tue, Feb 4
 vs Dallas



It's likely too late. There may be 5 teams that don't even get to 14 wins this season, and no way they out tank Portland and Brooklyn that have similar records.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#85 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 5:26 am

We gonna be like 6-10 games above 500 by march haha. They need a bench guard with size and a trade fora stretch forward and then they running. This team is loaded but we gotta get rid the old heads like Lowry,EG and Reggie who might have a drip of juice left.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#86 » by M2J » Tue Jan 7, 2025 6:09 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:We gonna be like 6-10 games above 500 by march haha. They need a bench guard with size and a trade fora stretch forward and then they running. This team is loaded but we gotta get rid the old heads like Lowry,EG and Reggie who might have a drip of juice left.


That's Paul George, Yabu, Caleb

Due to Jared... (Who i hope they bring back in limited role in April) they clearly need a stretch guard. However, between George and Joel, they should have enough there playmaking to just go big and find a pure shooter type to help out I guess in terms of a stretch wing or guard.


However with the approach Joel is taking this season and the tougher schedule... It could be a brutal second half to slog through. Most of the back to backs are ahead too
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#87 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 7:08 am

M2J wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:We gonna be like 6-10 games above 500 by march haha. They need a bench guard with size and a trade fora stretch forward and then they running. This team is loaded but we gotta get rid the old heads like Lowry,EG and Reggie who might have a drip of juice left.


That's Paul George, Yabu, Caleb

Due to Jared... (Who i hope they bring back in limited role in April) they clearly need a stretch guard. However, between George and Joel, they should have enough there playmaking to just go big and find a pure shooter type to help out I guess in terms of a stretch wing or guard.


However with the approach Joel is taking this season and the tougher schedule... It could be a brutal second half to slog through. Most of the back to backs are ahead too


No Caleb a 2/3 wing. Paul George a 3. Yabu a small ball 5/4. They need a tall stretch PF. A play making big guard with a middy like Lonnie Walker.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#88 » by 76ciology » Tue Jan 7, 2025 8:42 am

Start Bona and Drummond at the PF&C for the rest of the season. That way you can tank without trades
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#89 » by mjkvol » Tue Jan 7, 2025 11:24 am

Iverson Armband wrote:
Mik317 wrote:i don't why yall crash out after every loss lol.

team is mid.

Are you serious? Everyone but you thought this team was going to contend for a title this year lol


Well, not quite everyone.

I loved the 'empty cap' strategy last season until the realization that it was all to sign a "3rd star", in this case a 34-yr. old whose best days were clearly behind him, and whose best days never included being a money player. Might as well have given the money to Bradley Beal.

And for everyone screaming that "we had to do it" because last off season was our only shot, I said that schiit happens fast in this league and until the trade deadline nothing is written in stone. Now we have next to no leverage and there will be players we might have had a shot at that might not have cost us 50 mil x 4 years.

That might have failed as well, but I'd rather have kept my powder dry than immediately become the Suns East, which was assured once Embiid was locked up after knowing he was a borderline cripple.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#90 » by the_process » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:18 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:We gonna be like 6-10 games above 500 by march haha. They need a bench guard with size and a trade fora stretch forward and then they running. This team is loaded but we gotta get rid the old heads like Lowry, EG and Reggie who might have a drip of juice left.


I don't see that at all.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#91 » by the_process » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:27 pm

M2J wrote:
the_process wrote:They should switch gears now while they still can and tank it up. Just sit out Embiid and PG.

Next 15 games:

Wed, Jan 8
 vs Washington 


Fri, Jan 10
 vs New Orleans


Sun, Jan 12
 @ Orlando

Tue, Jan 14
 vs Oklahoma City
Wed, Jan 15 vs New York

Sat, Jan 18
 @ Indiana

Sun, Jan 19
 @ Milwaukee

Tue, Jan 21
 @ Denver

Fri, Jan 24
 vs Cleveland

Sat, Jan 25 
@ Chicago

Tue, Jan 28
 vs LA Lakers

Wed, Jan 29
 vs Sacramento

Fri, Jan 31
 vs Denver


Sun, Feb 2
 vs Boston


Tue, Feb 4
 vs Dallas



It's likely too late. There may be 5 teams that don't even get to 14 wins this season, and no way they out tank Portland and Brooklyn that have similar records.


If Embiid and PG are out, and Nurse starts playing around with lineups... 3-12 is an easy task and would bring the Sixers to 17-32 at just before the deadline. They're already eighth, a 3-12 run should drop them a couple spots.

Then hold a deadline fire sale and find a way to sit Maxey for the rest of the year. 20-62 is still achievable and would have them as a bottom six team.

This would be preferable to the Phoenix Suns East approach where they maybe limp to .500 and a play-in berth, where maybe they win a couple games and get in the playoffs before getting destroyed in the 1st round by an actual contender.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#92 » by mksp » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:34 pm

recommend just not paying attention to sixers until offseason when maybe they'll do something interesting
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#93 » by Iscull » Tue Jan 7, 2025 2:21 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:For everyone blaming Paul George, yes he isn’t playing great right now.

HOWEVER, his defense has been as advertised and he was brought here under the presumption that he’d be the THIRD banana. If you thought he was coming here to carry the team that’s your own fault. He is not that player.


He's being paid a max contract and is barely scratching 16 PPG at an incredibly inefficient rate.

Yes, he's made some plays on defense but that's not why we paid him $60MM/Year for 4 Years.

Whatever you think about the above two, the worse thing is that he is legit coasting. His body language is awful and it sets a horrible precedent.

Whatever you thought about Harden, at least he was trying on offense
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#94 » by Iscull » Tue Jan 7, 2025 2:23 pm

Decipher wrote:I like you guys so no hate here

When one of the world’s richest men who basically lucked into $100 billion & is a basketball tragic looks at PG’s potential contract and says “too rich for my blood” after paying him for years, Morey probably should’ve taken notice


Morey's love of old stars is so blinding. I don't think he's a bad GM, he took a shot. It just didn't work out
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#95 » by Eyeamok » Tue Jan 7, 2025 3:39 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:For everyone blaming Paul George, yes he isn’t playing great right now.

HOWEVER, his defense has been as advertised and he was brought here under the presumption that he’d be the THIRD banana. If you thought he was coming here to carry the team that’s your own fault. He is not that player.


^^^^ This 100 million times. It's like expecting Derrick White to carry the Celtics every other game. Once in a while maybe but most of the time get the hell out of here!
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#96 » by phillynative » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:40 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
Mik317 wrote:i don't why yall crash out after every loss lol.

team is mid.

Are you serious? Everyone but you thought this team was going to contend for a title this year lol

:lol:
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#97 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jan 7, 2025 5:25 pm

M2J wrote:I miss Jared, he'd help with all of this


This would solve a lot of my issues this season. If we saw growth from young talent, I wouldn’t really care about the losses. Now we just suffer through games without Embiid.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#98 » by Mik317 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 6:05 pm

Iscull wrote:
Decipher wrote:I like you guys so no hate here

When one of the world’s richest men who basically lucked into $100 billion & is a basketball tragic looks at PG’s potential contract and says “too rich for my blood” after paying him for years, Morey probably should’ve taken notice


Morey's love of old stars is so blinding. I don't think he's a bad GM, he took a shot. It just didn't work out

Morey's issue is the same as its always been

he think that just getting stars is all it takes...and it blows up on him every time as the stars he chooses are often unreliable and the teams fall apart.

T-Mac (my goat) and Yao were injury prone. Harden's playstyle is much easier to counter in the playoffs and his costars where an declining Howard and an equally ball dominant CP3 and Westbrook. Biid's playstyle is also easier to counter and his costars were Ben on his decline, Harden (SEE above) and now PG on his decline (with Biid's own decline). However all of the main stars from the above were insane floor raisers for the regular seasons so it masks a lot even though the cracks always show and for Yao/Biid/Tmac you just knew an injury was looming too. And so when the first plan fails, its the current spray and pray method which legit burned the Rockets against the Warriors ffs.

The issue with this current roster is that it still requires Biid to even function half the time and he is simply not reliable enough for that for 82 games and now they are stuck in limbo a bit. In past years, he'd be putting up MVP numbers and **** and we'd have a good-great record and be feeling ourselves prior to the annual freak injury. Those years we'd be able to survive the slump, it happened at the start of the year this time and here we are. So yeah kinda ****

HOWEVER if they are to be believed and the plan was to baby gloves Biid all year then they still get the blame because the fact that the team just straight up dies without him makes that plan **** stupid. AGAIN IDK what I would have done differently without hindsight as even I didn't expect PG to be this washed already (although I think despite the stats he has been fine...not max fine but fine and again I am willing to give him a playoff meltdown before being fully out) but as of right now, the team needs a table setter for the offense with and without Biid....Maxey not being that guy fully does hurt the offense a lot and even if he was, he can't be it alone and I honestly think a better way to keep Biid from hurting himself is to take away his reps as the offense hub too. I didn't want him back (mostly out of recency bias of that **** performace prior) but in hindsight we should have just bit the Harden bullet.

oh well. We will probably stumble into the play-in, either lose or get in and then lie to ourselves about being a sleeper team for a bit, get owned and give OKC a late lottery pick (that will somehow turn out to be the next Giannis) and blow it up in the offseason.
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#99 » by Sixteen » Tue Jan 7, 2025 6:56 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:For everyone blaming Paul George, yes he isn’t playing great right now.

HOWEVER, his defense has been as advertised and he was brought here under the presumption that he’d be the THIRD banana. If you thought he was coming here to carry the team that’s your own fault. He is not that player.


^^^^ This 100 million times. It's like expecting Derrick White to carry the Celtics every other game. Once in a while maybe but most of the time get the hell out of here!


He's moving around well to me. He's less gimpy looking than Harden looked when he was here. He's just a 76ers player now, so he forgot how to shoot and the refs won't give him any calls lol
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Re: Game 34 Suns @ 76ers 1/6/2025 

Post#100 » by FireMorey » Tue Jan 7, 2025 6:59 pm

I just don't see how this team can move forward without blowing it up. They are an uber expensive bottom seeded playoff team at best. I don't see any way to the top without blowing it up.

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