Where is Bob Covington?

[JojoSlimbiid]

RPM matters I guess. Wonder how many voters have watched him play.

[76thBearCub]

Hopefully this buys him some respect from the refs. Congrats to him. Kind of a big deal for him the way his career has gone. He deserves the recognition.

[ivysixer2000]

Congrats to Roco.

I just hope the Spurs are paying attention to this news.

[Sixersftw]

Congrats to my dude. Hinkie got this guy off of a scrap heap to 1st team defense.

[gdog2004]

Good for him. Ups his trade value.

[FireMorey]

Some of you guys live in NBA 2k world. I know he makes some bad decisions with the ball, but you simply can't replace his defensive impact as easily as some people think. Same thing with JJ Redick and his shooting.

Glad he got the recognition he deserves for his defense. Props to Cov for working hard on his game all these years.

I look at it on more of a broader scale. It isn't about moving Covington per se, it's about making the team better as a whole. If you get rid of Covington, but replace him with a better player that makes the team better overall, I don't see the problem in doing it. I'm not giving him away, but I do think if you can upgrade offensively, while not getting a turnstile on defense in return, then your team may be better overall. Obviously it depends on who the player is you get in return.

[thejuice17]

FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSE! Congrats! Robert!

what a joke,it should be embiid

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[LloydFree]

RoCo officially has the highest RPM among all small forwards (edging out Porter 5.42 to 5.23). And he's making less than half of Wiggins over the next four years

... And he's about to be 1st team All-defense. But some great basketball minds here don't know he's 3rd most important player on this team.

This aged well...

Well put.

[LloydFree]

Okafor's fan club beside themselves.

[HankTheTank]

... And he's about to be 1st team All-defense. But some great basketball minds here don't know he's 3rd most important player on this team.

This aged well...

Well put.

Burnnnnnnnn!

[PhilasFinest]

FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSE! Congrats! Robert!

what a joke,it should be embiid

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I agree that Embiid is the more important defensive player for our team, but they often try to follow positional guidelines. Embiid is a center and so is Gobert, so they wont put 2 on the same team (if so, most teams would be made up of 5 shot blocking bigs) Gobert had the slight edge IMO strictly on defense at the center position.

Gobert: 56 games 32 MPG
Team:48 wins in West, made playoffs. 2nd ranked team DRTG

10.7 rebounds
2.3 blocks
.8 steals per game
DRTG 99
DBPM 4.6
DWS 3.9

Embiid: 63 games 30 MPG
Team: 52 wins, made playoffs. 4th ranked team DRTG

11 rebounds
1.8 blocks
.6 steals per game
DRTG 100
DBPM 2.5
DWS 3.8

Both were outstanding anchors for there teams. Rudy simply had the edge on a few of the key defensive stats. Embiid also has to carry the burden of our teams offense as well, so the fact that he is even in this class is really impressive. Truly a 2-way star.

[kuclas]

FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSE! Congrats! Robert!

what a joke,it should be embiid

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I agree that Embiid is the more important defensive player for our team, but they often try to follow positional guidelines. Embiid is a center and so is Gobert, so they wont put 2 on the same team (if so, most teams would be made up of 5 shot blocking bigs) Gobert had the slight edge IMO strictly on defense at the center position.

Gobert: 56 games 32 MPG
Team:48 wins in West, made playoffs. 2nd ranked team DRTG

10.7 rebounds
2.3 blocks
.8 steals per game
DRTG 99
DBPM 4.6
DWS 3.9

Embiid: 63 games 30 MPG
Team: 52 wins, made playoffs. 4th ranked team DRTG

11 rebounds
1.8 blocks
.6 steals per game
DRTG 100
DBPM 2.5
DWS 3.8

Both were outstanding anchors for there teams. Rudy simply had the edge on a few of the key defensive stats. Embiid also has to carry the burden of our teams offense as well, so the fact that he is even in this class is really impressive. Truly a 2-way star.

I have no issues with gobert being first team center defense. Maybe if embiid had played 70 games. He gets the edge over gobert. But voters see 63 games vs 56 games as not much difference in terms of games played.

The real issue I have is with Anthony Davis. If they are gonna to make him first team all defense power forward?? Ok

But for the regular all nba voting. Voters get their cake and will switch Anthony Davis back to being center. So Davis gets first team all nba center. That way. Giannis doesn’t get shut out of first team all
Nba forward. It’s so obvious.

[Sixerscan]

what a joke,it should be embiid

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I agree that Embiid is the more important defensive player for our team, but they often try to follow positional guidelines. Embiid is a center and so is Gobert, so they wont put 2 on the same team (if so, most teams would be made up of 5 shot blocking bigs) Gobert had the slight edge IMO strictly on defense at the center position.

Gobert: 56 games 32 MPG
Team:48 wins in West, made playoffs. 2nd ranked team DRTG

10.7 rebounds
2.3 blocks
.8 steals per game
DRTG 99
DBPM 4.6
DWS 3.9

Embiid: 63 games 30 MPG
Team: 52 wins, made playoffs. 4th ranked team DRTG

11 rebounds
1.8 blocks
.6 steals per game
DRTG 100
DBPM 2.5
DWS 3.8

Both were outstanding anchors for there teams. Rudy simply had the edge on a few of the key defensive stats. Embiid also has to carry the burden of our teams offense as well, so the fact that he is even in this class is really impressive. Truly a 2-way star.

I have no issues with gobert being first team center defense. Maybe if embiid had played 70 games. He gets the edge over gobert. But voters see 63 games vs 56 games as not much difference in terms of games played.

The real issue I have is with Anthony Davis. If they are gonna to make him first team all defense power forward?? Ok

But for the regular all nba voting. Voters get their cake and will switch Anthony Davis back to being center. So Davis gets first team all nba center. That way. Giannis doesn’t get shut out of first team all
Nba forward. It’s so obvious.

I think they let people vote guys for either position then fill in guys so that the top vote getters get first team. For both Embiid and Davis to get first team they would both have to beat out all but one of Lebron, Giannis, Durant etc. Then one of those guys (say, Lebron) would be one of the first team forwards, Davis would be the other and Embiid would be center.

Otherwise one of Embiid/Davis will be first team center one 2nd.

[76ciology]

Time to trade him for Kawhi

[youngcrev]

The morning show on 97.5 is going in on him hard today after the news. Gargano put the Boston series on him, lol. I'm so tempted to call in but they're in too much of a feeding frenzy to listen to logic right now.

[ivysixer2000]

what a joke,it should be embiid

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I agree that Embiid is the more important defensive player for our team, but they often try to follow positional guidelines. Embiid is a center and so is Gobert, so they wont put 2 on the same team (if so, most teams would be made up of 5 shot blocking bigs) Gobert had the slight edge IMO strictly on defense at the center position.

Gobert: 56 games 32 MPG
Team:48 wins in West, made playoffs. 2nd ranked team DRTG

10.7 rebounds
2.3 blocks
.8 steals per game
DRTG 99
DBPM 4.6
DWS 3.9

Embiid: 63 games 30 MPG
Team: 52 wins, made playoffs. 4th ranked team DRTG

11 rebounds
1.8 blocks
.6 steals per game
DRTG 100
DBPM 2.5
DWS 3.8

Both were outstanding anchors for there teams. Rudy simply had the edge on a few of the key defensive stats. Embiid also has to carry the burden of our teams offense as well, so the fact that he is even in this class is really impressive. Truly a 2-way star.

I have no issues with gobert being first team center defense. Maybe if embiid had played 70 games. He gets the edge over gobert. But voters see 63 games vs 56 games as not much difference in terms of games played.

The real issue I have is with Anthony Davis. If they are gonna to make him first team all defense power forward?? Ok

But for the regular all nba voting. Voters get their cake and will switch Anthony Davis back to being center. So Davis gets first team all nba center. That way. Giannis doesn’t get shut out of first team all
Nba forward. It’s so obvious.

That limits us severely salarywise if Jojo gets All-NBA. He might get it next year, but I really don't think he deserves it this year.

Davis is more deserving, and there is noway he should win over Bron or Durant.

[gdog2004]

The morning show on 97.5 is going in on him hard today after the news. Gargano put the Boston series on him, lol. I'm so tempted to call in but they're in too much of a feeding frenzy to listen to logic right now.

They aren't wrong. If Covington plays even average in the Boston series the Sixers are still playing.
Covington was awful in that series on both ends of the floor. I think he had one good game. Him winning 1st team all defense does not change that. Same for Simmons. If he wins ROTY, it does not change the fact that He was easily the 3rd (or worse) best rookie in the playoffs. Tatum and Mitchell were big time in the playoffs. Simmons shrunk in the Boston series.

[Sixerscan]

The morning show on 97.5 is going in on him hard today after the news. Gargano put the Boston series on him, lol. I'm so tempted to call in but they're in too much of a feeding frenzy to listen to logic right now.

They aren't wrong. If Covington plays even average in the Boston series the Sixers are still playing.
Covington was awful in that series on both ends of the floor. I think he had one good game. Him winning 1st team all defense does not change that. Same for Simmons. If he wins ROTY, it does not change the fact that He was easily the 3rd (or worse) best rookie in the playoffs. Tatum and Mitchell were big time in the playoffs. Simmons shrunk in the Boston series.

Maybe, I just find it weird that now that everything is over people want to focus on a few bad games instead of the incredible run he's had from being a D League chucker to first team all defense.

I think there are a group of people that don't like him for whatever reason and look for a reason to complain. It was the same way during the regular season. He shot above average from 3 on the year but to read this thread you would think he shot 30%. I think part of it is that he's very streaky. If he shot the way he did in October November and March every month we wouldn't be getting him for $10 million next year.

[gdog2004]

The morning show on 97.5 is going in on him hard today after the news. Gargano put the Boston series on him, lol. I'm so tempted to call in but they're in too much of a feeding frenzy to listen to logic right now.

They aren't wrong. If Covington plays even average in the Boston series the Sixers are still playing.
Covington was awful in that series on both ends of the floor. I think he had one good game. Him winning 1st team all defense does not change that. Same for Simmons. If he wins ROTY, it does not change the fact that He was easily the 3rd (or worse) best rookie in the playoffs. Tatum and Mitchell were big time in the playoffs. Simmons shrunk in the Boston series.

Maybe, I just find it weird that now that everything is over people want to focus on a few bad games instead of the incredible run he's had from being a D League chucker to first team all defense.

I think there are a group of people that don't like him for whatever reason and look for a reason to complain. It was the same way during the regular season. He shot above average from 3 on the year but to read this thread you would think he shot 30%. I think part of it is that he's very streaky. If he shot the way he did in October November and March every month we wouldn't be getting him for $10 million next year.

Conversely,
I think there are a group of people that like him no matter what and look for any reason to defend him. It was the same way during the playoffs.

I like him(and any player really) based on his performance in key moments. And when he was needed most (the Boston series and a good chunk of Miami series) he didn't perform well by any logical persons definition.
I saw a similar defense of Nerlens Noel when he was here. He would have horrible games and guys would pull some ridiculous stat out of nowhere to defend him.

[kuclas]

I agree that Embiid is the more important defensive player for our team, but they often try to follow positional guidelines. Embiid is a center and so is Gobert, so they wont put 2 on the same team (if so, most teams would be made up of 5 shot blocking bigs) Gobert had the slight edge IMO strictly on defense at the center position.

Gobert: 56 games 32 MPG
Team:48 wins in West, made playoffs. 2nd ranked team DRTG

10.7 rebounds
2.3 blocks
.8 steals per game
DRTG 99
DBPM 4.6
DWS 3.9

Embiid: 63 games 30 MPG
Team: 52 wins, made playoffs. 4th ranked team DRTG

11 rebounds
1.8 blocks
.6 steals per game
DRTG 100
DBPM 2.5
DWS 3.8

Both were outstanding anchors for there teams. Rudy simply had the edge on a few of the key defensive stats. Embiid also has to carry the burden of our teams offense as well, so the fact that he is even in this class is really impressive. Truly a 2-way star.

I have no issues with gobert being first team center defense. Maybe if embiid had played 70 games. He gets the edge over gobert. But voters see 63 games vs 56 games as not much difference in terms of games played.

The real issue I have is with Anthony Davis. If they are gonna to make him first team all defense power forward?? Ok

But for the regular all nba voting. Voters get their cake and will switch Anthony Davis back to being center. So Davis gets first team all nba center. That way. Giannis doesn’t get shut out of first team all
Nba forward. It’s so obvious.

I think they let people vote guys for either position then fill in guys so that the top vote getters get first team. For both Embiid and Davis to get first team they would both have to beat out all but one of Lebron, Giannis, Durant etc. Then one of those guys (say, Lebron) would be one of the first team forwards, Davis would be the other and Embiid would be center.

Otherwise one of Embiid/Davis will be first team center one 2nd.

My point being is that either nba needs to make positionless voting so stick to the positions. They can’t have it both ways.

Like the 1993-1996 era where u had Hakeem, Ewing , Robinson and a young but emerging Shaq. Only one of those guys got to be selected as first all nba center” and first team all nba defense

If those guys played in 2017-2018. The nba voters would devise the same scheme to fit them in as a “forward” and fit one in as a “center” so more on those elite centers would have been voted.

I am seriously. Davis is a power forward and not a center. Even after cousins went down. Okafar (E) started many games at center. Davis is not a center. We all know that.