2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

[Kobblehead]

So it seems like R.J. Hampton really might be within striking distance of a tradeup. Just gotta get ahead of Boston.

[Magic beans]

Personally I love the look of Aaron Nesmith. He’s the best pure shooter in the draft. Shoots the 3 at such a high percentage. Think he would be a lot higher in mock drafts if he didn’t get injured.
His skill set would really improve our offence / spacing.

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[Kobblehead]

I don't like prospects that have shooting as their leading trait. Shooting is unreliable and doesn't always translate to the postseason.

Nesmith can't defend anyone and I'm not sure how much scoring off the dribble he's capable of. He can attack a closeout just fine, but I don't think he has a wide array of shotcreation abilities.

So best case scenario, we'd be looking at a Buddy Hield type. Worse case scenario, we'd be looking at another Richardson/Milton/Korkmaz playoff dud player.

[Kobblehead]

I think the sooner the organization gets away from the idea of "adding shooting" and starts to embrace finding defensive players that can score off the dribble, the sooner we'll become a legit powerhouse in the East.

[ZarcMumoff]

So it seems like R.J. Hampton really might be within striking distance of a tradeup. Just gotta get ahead of Boston.

We likely aren't keeping No. 21, let alone using the little assets we have to trade up.

[Kobblehead]

This team has no bench and no cap space to go get one. I highly doubt we're going to be getting rid of 1st rounders.

[ZarcMumoff]

What has the FO done in the last year that would make you think they'd trade up for a 19 year old who isn't an obvious immediate impact player?

[Kobblehead]

It's been widely reported that there's expected to be drastic changes to the front office personnel and approach.

Anyone that can score off the dribble and defend is an immediate impact player. I'd hope that we'd be able to recognize that.

[ZarcMumoff]

It's been widely reported that there's expected to be drastic changes to the front office personnel and approach.

Anyone that can score off the dribble and defend is an immediate impact player. I'd hope that we'd be able to recognize that.

I haven't seen anything about the approach changing outside of being less collaborative.

I like Hampton a whole lot. Would love for him to be our pick. But you are getting your hopes up for a player we aren't going to pick.

[Kobblehead]

We have a pretty good idea that the main culprit that didn't value guys that could score off the dribble was Brett Brown.

Elton Brand seems to value the trait and has been very aggressive.

Elton Brand traded for Jimmy Butler during the season.
Elton Brand signed Trey Burke before the season.
Elton Brand traded for Alec Burks at the deadline.

I don't know why you're advising us to just assume the worst.

[ZarcMumoff]

I don't know why you're advising us to just assume the worst.

He says on a Sixers message board.

[stormi]

Kira Lewis has to be a guy to trade up for. Has all the traits to be a star point guard

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[Kobblehead]

Kira definitely looks like a playoff contributor, albeit a one-sided one. I fully expect him to get abused mercilessly, defensively.

Also, I'm just not sure if he's capable of being a full-fledged offensive star. Might just be a scorer off the bench. In which case, a trade up for a guy like that seems excessive.

[stormi]

Not like trade way up for, but in like a Thybulle sense where you move up a few spots to secure your guy. His speed, handle and finishing combo is electric and his jumper looks promising. To even be able to get a possible Coby White-ish derivative in the mid teens sounds way too good to pass up on.

[Kobblehead]

Given his one-way game, I don't view Kira as an all-encompassing solution. So I'm wary about identifying him as a trade-up target and possible sacrificing a future 1st or our entire 2nd round to get him.

I think we're a better team next year with a guy with a complete game like Tre Jones as opposed to a guy who's just a dynamic scorer off the dribble like Lewis. We can probably secure Tre Jones by just standing pat. He might even be available at the top of the 2nd round.

If we're trading up for anyone, I'd prefer it be for a young guy who can both score off the dribble and defend (an R.J. Hampton for instance). That's the player archetype that is most likely to produce a star player. In which case, the draft capital you gave up will have been worth it.

[stormi]

Not a Tre Jones guy. Elite traits are what we should be chasing I agree. RJ is an elite athlete with okay basketball feel, a non existent jumper and poor finishing around the rim. You're banking on him figuring out his body, shot and feel for the game on a competing team that can't afford him the minutes to make those mistakes. It's what's happening to Ant Simons and what isn't happening to Devonte Graham.

Kira is also an elite athlete. A dynamic point general that can shoot, get to the line and finish strong around the rim while only being 19. I think there's less things for him to figure out while still having allstar upside.

He'll probably go just above us though to a team like Miami and torment us for the next long while.

[Kobblehead]

You should become a Tre Jones guy because he's probably going to have more meaningful success than the majority of Gs taken in this draft. He's got a great head on his shoulders and he has a complete game on the court.

Kira is an aggressive penetrator, but I think his finishing ability is overrated. He couldn't finish above 60% in either of his two seasons at the college level and is like 6'2" 165 pounds so how can we possibly expect that to change that in the NBA? Also, I wouldn't necessarily classify him as a point general. He didn't even play point as a freshman and was a pretty mediocre distributor as a sophomore. I see him much more as a defensive zero scoring specialist off the bench than I do as some kind of a offensive star at the NBA level.

[stormi]

I think you're too definitive when it comes to players being good or nothing. Like his defense isn't outstanding or non existent in my opinion. It's passible.

I'm struggling to think of reasons why Kira Lewis couldn't become an impact guard. There is also the fact that there are exactly zero Sixer guards with any creativity or skill on the ball, forget his unique speed and mindfulness of pace change. I'm just imagining Marcus Smart coming up to press him in the halfcourt and being glided past effortlessly.

Mild case scenario he becomes a Dennis Schroder esque player. I would take someone like that on my team in a heartbeat as a contributer who can get instant buckets off the bench or start in a pinch if need be.

[Kobblehead]

The only guys I would trade up for in this draft are Hayes, Hampton, Haliburton or Vassell. And I'm far more likely to compromise that notion to move up a few slots to secure a guy like Josh Green (who I feel confident can start for a contender).

There's a strong selection of guys that can score off the dribble and defend that could be available from 20-40 so I don't see value in putting all my eggs in the Kira Lewis basket, who I only project to be able to score off the dribble.

[stormi]

Kira De'Aaron Fox White Wall Lewis Jr >>> RJ Terrance Zhaire Smith Ferguson Hampton