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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#801 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:36 pm



A dude that big jumping passes and leading the break is not a usual occurrence.

Ultimately led Sweden in all major categories of points (16.0 per game), rebounds (10.0 per game), assists (5.1 per game), steals (2.6 per game), blocks (0.9 per game), efficiency (160.0), and minutes played (29.9 per game), as Sweden finished with a 6-1 record


I think he's just not really a college or Australian league player. I know that's making excuses since he didn't put up huge stats at 2 stops, but I think he's shown flashes on the international stage to suggest he's legit.
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Post#802 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:46 am

Man just watched a ton of Devin Carter. Feels like we’d be lucky as hell if he fell to 16. Worth trading up for?
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Post#803 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:45 am

Terrence Shannon not guilty y’all got to feel me!

Is he in play at #16?
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Post#804 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:56 am

Arsenal wrote:Terrence Shannon not guilty y’all got to feel me!

Is he in play at #16?

Oh wow, this getting resolved prior to the draft is a game-changer.

I would definitely take him at #16. The only guy I would take over him at that spot is Walter.
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Post#805 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:17 pm

I think Shannon is the only Sr I’d be interested in taking in the first round. Don’t love the shot form, but I like the rest of his game.
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Post#806 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:36 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Man just watched a ton of Devin Carter. Feels like we’d be lucky as hell if he fell to 16. Worth trading up for?

As a general rule, I wouldn't trade up for an upperclassman. And definitely not one under 6'4".

I just think the needs at SG, SF, and PF are too crucial to splurge on another PG.
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Post#807 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:39 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Man just watched a ton of Devin Carter. Feels like we’d be lucky as hell if he fell to 16. Worth trading up for?

As a general rule, I wouldn't trade up for an upperclassman. And definitely not one under 6'4".

I just think the needs at SG, SF, and PF are too crucial to splurge on another PG.


Fair. I feel like with his defense and wing span he could play heavy minutes next to Maxey though.
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Post#808 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:05 pm

I'm not a fan of the dual munchkin backcourt because I don't think it's a winning formula.

However, Melton working next to Maxey is supporting evidence that it can be done. Coincidentally, Melton and Carter have identical measurements in every facet (height, weight, wingspan).

Would Carter be a Melton fit next to another munchkin (success) or a Murray fit next to another munchkin (failure)?

I think the key component to potential compatibility is usage. Melton had a 17% usage at USC and in the NBA he has had a 18% usage for his career. He's a guy that spends all his energy on defense.

Carter is a career 25% usage guy in college (so was Dejounte Murray). He's a guy that wants to go get it on the offensive end. He's not one to take a backseat and just play defense. That could hurt his compatibility next to another munchkin.

Reed Sheppard is only munchkin in this class that I think could be compatible next to Maxey (steals, blocks, 3PAr, low usage). However, his value is way above our range, unfortunately.
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Post#809 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:26 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I'm not a fan of the dual munchkin backcourt because I don't think it's a winning formula.

However, Melton working next to Maxey is supporting evidence that it can be done. Coincidentally, Melton and Carter have identical measurements in every facet (height, weight, wingspan).

Would Carter be a Melton fit next to another munchkin (success) or a Murray fit next to another munchkin (failure)?

I think the key component to potential compatibility is usage. Melton had a 17% usage at USC and in the NBA he has had a 18% usage for his career. He's a guy that spends all his energy on defense.

Carter is a career 25% usage guy in college (so was Dejounte Murray). He's a guy that wants to go get it on the offensive end. He's not one to take a backseat and just play defense. That could hurt his compatibility next to another munchkin.

Reed Sheppard is only munchkin in this class that I think could be compatible next to Maxey (steals, blocks, 3PAr, low usage). However, his value is way above our range, unfortunately.


A healthy Melton is really perfect next to Maxey. He scores about 15 points per 36 too, so isn’t completely useless on that end. Will be curious how the offseason goes for him. His back injury is so annoying.
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Post#810 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:45 pm

I think we have to bring Melton back. It would be beyond foolish to let him go. He's extremely valuable to this team. At this point he's probably the third most important player that we have. I know that's not saying much, but he's a quality role player that can do it on both ends. You don't let that walk.

Without going off topic, I think you address the rebounding issue with the pick as opposed to finding a Melton replacement. I think he'll bounce back from the back injury and be just fine for us. Use the pick on a big that can rebound the basketball OR you take the BPA at that spot. Either way, acquiring talent through the draft is never a bad thing. If the BPA just happens to be a player that does the things Melton does, the. Yeah... you draft that guy.
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Post#811 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:57 am

Some of the figures I heard about what Melton may want ($20m range) makes me think we should let him walk. He's just not worth that. He's just not productive enough in the playoffs. 11.7 ppg per-36 in the postseason are pitiful numbers. He just gets bothered too much by length and defenses that are actually trying. That's why I don't like the dual munckin backcourt.

Hopefully we're lucky enough to get our SG at #16 (Walter or Shannon), but if not, I'd be looking at guys bigger than 6'4" in the 2nd round like Pelle Larsson or Cam Christie.
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Post#812 » by Eyeamok » Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:05 pm

Who is going to pay Melton 20 million a season? If he can get it from some other team good for him. But as far as I am concerned he is damaged goods, until he proves otherwise. Either the 76ers offer him a 1+1 contract or let him go and get his 20 million on another team.
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Post#813 » by Mik317 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:41 pm

Kyshawn George has a green room invite.

Elton does love his promises lol
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Post#814 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:19 pm

Mik317 wrote:Kyshawn George has a green room invite.

Elton does love his promises lol

I wouldn't hate the pick.

He's huge, has a relentless three point trigger, and possesses passing chops. Kyshawn George has a lot of Portland-era Batum to his game.

Only real knock on George is that he's below average athletically.
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Post#815 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:31 am

I could live with Kyshawn George as the pick...But not over guys like DeSilva, Carrington, and Walter.
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Post#816 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:00 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Man just watched a ton of Devin Carter. Feels like we’d be lucky as hell if he fell to 16. Worth trading up for?


I dont mind Jaylon Tyson as the alternative choice to Devin Carter
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Post#817 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:48 am

Definitely wouldn't take George over Walter. I'd take him over DaSilva, though, based on age. I'd take him over Carrington, based on positional need and size.
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Post#818 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:41 pm

George is like Dalen Terry to me, but at least he can shoot. His ceiling is a role player. I’d pass.
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Post#819 » by stormi » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:16 am

Skimmed some Kyshawn George footage. He seems interesting.

His developmental curve I'm sure is something to take into account. He was playing French high school basketball just a year ago and didn't become a starter at Miami until Christmas time.

Good not great athlete, good POA defender, shot really well from deep in the games that he started and he's showcased some decent half court passing ability.

Not really in love with the player. Probably a Beauchamp level prospect, who I was indifferent about.

Would have him below Tyson/Walter/Holmes/Carrington.

Still don't really have a my guy yet in this class.
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Post#820 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:28 am

Why would you waste a top 10 pick on a guard who can’t shoot and is not a scorer with Stephon Castle?
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