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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#801 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:27 pm

We should’ve traded for Jalen Suggs in the summer. He’s Marcus Smart 2.0 but the Magic would be crazy to trade him now.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#802 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:45 pm

How could this board dismiss how extremely important Oubres addition has been??? He literally when playing has been the engine and perfect addition to this team.


We are literally one more player addition of similar caliber way from being a legit contender.

Morris salary ,Korkmaz,kj martin,Springer and picks gotta bring us in that type of player .
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Post#803 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:28 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:How could this board dismiss how extremely important Oubres addition has been??? He literally when playing has been the engine and perfect addition to this team.


We are literally one more player addition of similar caliber way from being a legit contender.

Morris salary ,Korkmaz,kj martin,Springer and picks gotta bring us in that type of player .


Yeah it's evident he was our 3rd best player, Harris doesn't impact the game like Oubre does, evident even to the untrained eye.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#804 » by Sixerscan » Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:06 pm

The version of Oubre that shoots high 30s from 3 and plays hard every possession may be. TBD if he stays that guy.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#805 » by GutUNC » Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:18 pm

Sixerscan wrote:The version of Oubre that shoots high 30s from 3 and plays hard every possession may be. TBD if he stays that guy.


Yeah, I remain puzzled why so many people are valuing 8 games over 8 years. He's on a vet minimum and he's done a really nice job in 8 Sixers games but there's a long track record that speaks to a different player.
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Post#806 » by M2J » Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:34 pm

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I don't believe that's the choice you are offering. Adding an oft-injured lifelong stat compiler for bad teams allegedly as a guy to take big shots for a championship contender? Lavine eats up cap space and IMO insures that we will be a second round casualty for as long as Embiid chooses to remain here.


He's been healthy the last few years, and same logic I said for Embiid applies to him too. He's going to have less to do and hopefully stays healthier and becomes 1 of 3 guys to take big shots if the coaching is right, and the 3rd of those 3.

Only takes 1 ring to make it worth it, and that roster should be able to do it comfortably this year.


Bringing in Lavine turns this roster into one that can 'comfortably' win a title? That gives the word hyperbole a whole new meaning.


I believe Lavine alone would clearly make them favorites. But, as we posted about all day yesterday and perhaps your memory doesn't serve. Comfortably is referencing the trade scenario of Lavine, Caruso and Drummond.

Even Nurse would admit it's the coaching if they can't win with that. Perfect fit on top of perfect fit on top of perfect fit.

Of course Bridges is perfect, but it's unlikely he's available, so that doesn't matter. Morty Morey should try, but Lavine ain't a bad backup plan for a team in win now mode.

You're on Joel's timeline, not just Maxey, and it's time to get out of the process mindset of finding a young player to develop (as some have said)
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Post#807 » by M2J » Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:39 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
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eyeatoma wrote:Devin Booker didn't sacrifice. He just didn't have it. This year he's doing as well as KD. I'm fine with him sacrificing for a player clearly better than him. Maxey developing lines up with winning a title. You could argue that Harden stunted Maxey last year even though he learned alot from him.

This isn't Sga or Booker or Luka. It's LaVine lol. Maxey shouldn't sacrifice **** for him lol. We need a wing not a guard.

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He will sacrifice when Beal plays, and Beal is on Lavines level ..Except Lavine is healthier. In fact Bradley was on Zach's level maybe 2 years ago, not anymore.
LaVine had an acl injury and had a knee scope a year ago. He's not healthier those knees are a ticking time bomb. And with our luck his knees will implode on the plane flight over here.

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Are you one of those willing to sign PG or Kawhi this off season?

Id say those type of guys have had their issues, but in win now situations can be quite valuable and worth the risk... Specifically if they're healthy NOW
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Post#808 » by eyeatoma » Sun Nov 26, 2023 8:09 pm

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He will sacrifice when Beal plays, and Beal is on Lavines level ..Except Lavine is healthier. In fact Bradley was on Zach's level maybe 2 years ago, not anymore.
LaVine had an acl injury and had a knee scope a year ago. He's not healthier those knees are a ticking time bomb. And with our luck his knees will implode on the plane flight over here.

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Are you one of those willing to sign PG or Kawhi this off season?

Id say those type of guys have had their issues, but in win now situations can be quite valuable and worth the risk... Specifically if they're healthy NOW
I'm not a fan of either. Too old and too injured.

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Post#809 » by M2J » Sun Nov 26, 2023 8:41 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
M2J wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:LaVine had an acl injury and had a knee scope a year ago. He's not healthier those knees are a ticking time bomb. And with our luck his knees will implode on the plane flight over here.

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Are you one of those willing to sign PG or Kawhi this off season?

Id say those type of guys have had their issues, but in win now situations can be quite valuable and worth the risk... Specifically if they're healthy NOW
I'm not a fan of either. Too old and too injured.

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Post#810 » by mjkvol » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:32 pm

M2J wrote:Of course Bridges is perfect, but it's unlikely he's available, so that doesn't matter. Morty Morey should try, but Lavine ain't a bad backup plan for a team in win now mode.

You're on Joel's timeline, not just Maxey, and it's time to get out of the process mindset of finding a young player to develop (as some have said)


I don't care what timeline, mode, or mindset you're on - Lavine is an oft-injured, overpaid, empty stat compiling losing player whose presence will guarantee that Embiid's legacy here will be second round flameouts.
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Post#811 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:09 pm

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2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
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George/Oubre/Edwards
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Post#812 » by Mik317 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:33 pm

not gonna act like I watch many Bulls games...or any outside of when they play us (in which Lavine kills us IIRC but so does every rando lol)

but goddam some of yall really hate dude ha

so I'll let this one go lol
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#813 » by M2J » Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:38 pm

mjkvol wrote:
M2J wrote:Of course Bridges is perfect, but it's unlikely he's available, so that doesn't matter. Morty Morey should try, but Lavine ain't a bad backup plan for a team in win now mode.

You're on Joel's timeline, not just Maxey, and it's time to get out of the process mindset of finding a young player to develop (as some have said)


I don't care what timeline, mode, or mindset you're on - Lavine is an oft-injured, overpaid, empty stat compiling losing player whose presence will guarantee that Embiid's legacy here will be second round flameouts.


Great. I totally disagree that they'd be stuck in the 2nd.
What are your realistic solutions that can help get out of the 2nd round?
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Post#814 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:09 am

GutUNC wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:The version of Oubre that shoots high 30s from 3 and plays hard every possession may be. TBD if he stays that guy.


Yeah, I remain puzzled why so many people are valuing 8 games over 8 years. He's on a vet minimum and he's done a really nice job in 8 Sixers games but there's a long track record that speaks to a different player.


I value heart and passion, Oubre has that, over the years I've learned that this is really important, guys like Simmons, Soften, Harris and to a lesser extent Embiid don't really have that passion. Maxey has it and then Oubre does too
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Post#815 » by mjkvol » Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:11 am

M2J wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
M2J wrote:Of course Bridges is perfect, but it's unlikely he's available, so that doesn't matter. Morty Morey should try, but Lavine ain't a bad backup plan for a team in win now mode.

You're on Joel's timeline, not just Maxey, and it's time to get out of the process mindset of finding a young player to develop (as some have said)


I don't care what timeline, mode, or mindset you're on - Lavine is an oft-injured, overpaid, empty stat compiling losing player whose presence will guarantee that Embiid's legacy here will be second round flameouts.


Great. I totally disagree that they'd be stuck in the 2nd.
What are your realistic solutions that can help get out of the 2nd round?


Figuring that out is above my pay grade, but some of the names mentioned here like Bridges and OG are solutions, unrealistic as they may be. They guarantee nothing, but they at least fit what this team needs and offer winning basketball attributes. I'm sorry, but the same can't be said for Zach Lavine.
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Post#816 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:28 am

M2J wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
M2J wrote:Of course Bridges is perfect, but it's unlikely he's available, so that doesn't matter. Morty Morey should try, but Lavine ain't a bad backup plan for a team in win now mode.

You're on Joel's timeline, not just Maxey, and it's time to get out of the process mindset of finding a young player to develop (as some have said)


I don't care what timeline, mode, or mindset you're on - Lavine is an oft-injured, overpaid, empty stat compiling losing player whose presence will guarantee that Embiid's legacy here will be second round flameouts.


Great. I totally disagree that they'd be stuck in the 2nd.
What are your realistic solutions that can help get out of the 2nd round?


Not to jump in on this, but I'm going to take a shot at the question itself. The realistic solution would be for Embiid to be at full health and at the peak of his game during the playoffs. I don't think adding Lavine is the answer with this at all. First and foremost Joel Embiid has to be on top of his game. If and when he ever is (while in his prime), we will be in the Finals. I think the team is a small addition in the backcourt away from being a serious Finals-contending team. Health has been our biggest issue.
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Post#817 » by SixersSince82 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:44 am

What are your realistic solutions that can help get out of the 2nd round?
Someone that warrants taking the ball out of Embiid's hands in crunch time. Someone good enough to command Joel's respect, which is why "insert role player X" isn't the answer.

So long as Joel is the offensive focal point in the last 5 minutes of close games (which most deep round playoff games are) they will never win a title. And this isn't even meant to be a knock on Joel. Shaq had Kobe. Duncan had Manu and Parker. Its just the nature of the game with 99% of big men.
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Post#818 » by Eyeamok » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:20 am

Joel at full health and differing to Max for the last shot would be a step in the right direction of getting past the 2nd round. Practice the differing part during the season. As far as Lavine I don't like him as a max player on this team. I recall Furkan having some of his best games playing agains Lavine. So he maybe able to fill up the score sheet but he is a defensive liability.
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Post#819 » by Eyeamok » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:36 am

M2J wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
M2J wrote:
Are you one of those willing to sign PG or Kawhi this off season?

Id say those type of guys have had their issues, but in win now situations can be quite valuable and worth the risk... Specifically if they're healthy NOW
I'm not a fan of either. Too old and too injured.

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I read a lot of people here want to sign OG. But what if the Raptors go all out to keep him. Is Pascal Siakam such a bad #2 choice? Nurse knows him, he has been a part of a championship team, he fits the Joel timeline and the team would still have enough money to sign a Spencer Dinwiddle and a Kelly Obure to reasonable contracts.

Right now Maxey needs some help. He needs someone to take the load off of him. And Melton is more suited for a back up role. Trade for a Fultz for the season or someone that can handle the rock. Then I believe this team could make some serious noise in the playoffs.
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Post#820 » by Arsenal » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:15 am

Malcolm Brogdon continues to be the best value in terms of trade cost, contract, and fit with our roster. I assume we should be able to get him for no more than a 1st and expiring salary (Morris + Kork). He moves into the starting SG spot and moves Melton to the bench, which in turn moves Beverley out of the rotation.

PG Maxey | Melton | Beverley
SG Brogdon | Oubre | Springer
SF Batum | House | Martin
PF Harris | Covington |
CE Embiid | Reed | Bamba

That's a strong 9-man playoff rotation. House and Bev can be the 10th and 11th if needed.

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