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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#821 » by Kobblehead » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:31 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:I think it's arguably more deflating when dude pass up open shots (Harris) or outright refuse to shoot altogether (Simmons). It shrinks the court and allows defenders to have roaming eyes.


Harris and Wall both made about 1.5 3s per game last year. The idea that its a positive that Wall requires two more shots to obtain the same amount of points seems like a real stretch in support of a pre-existing narrative.

Are you looking at the final year in Washington? In Houston this year, Wall was hitting 2 threes a game. His percentage was dogish, but I think there's value in a quick trigger and volume makes from a spacing perspective.

I like the all-around improvements Harris made to his shotcreating and passing, but his trigger was completely disappointing last year. His 3.7 attempts per 36 were embarrassing. He was outslung by non-shooters Maxey and Thybulle.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#822 » by Kobblehead » Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:45 pm

Ben Simmons

for

Cole Anthony
Terrence Ross
Gary Harris
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#823 » by 76ciology » Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:10 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Ben Simmons

for

Cole Anthony
Terrence Ross
Gary Harris


Wow bro… slowdown with the caffeine intake

I’d rather have Fultz and Isaac.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#824 » by Kobblehead » Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:41 pm

Surprised you don't like Cole Anthony.

He's everything people think Colin Sexton is. Willing shooter, great one-on-one player. Alpha personality.

Isaac is basically a bust at this point. And he's always hurt.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#825 » by 76ciology » Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:26 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Surprised you don't like Cole Anthony.

He's everything people think Colin Sexton is. Willing shooter, great one-on-one player. Alpha personality.

Isaac is basically a bust at this point. And he's always hurt.


First off, im not a big fan of Sexton. But I believe he is underrated and is the best scorer we can get for Ben.

Cole Anthony and Sexton are on the same level at age 20.

But I doubt Anthony can be as good as Sexton in the next 2 years and double his scoring average.

I’d rather go for Fultz, Immanuel Quickley or even Pritchard. But preferably not involving Ben.

P.S. Cole Anthony looked HORRIBLE in the recent SL.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#826 » by Kobblehead » Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:28 pm

Anthony has way higher upside when you take into consideration the huge gap between their shotcreating abilities. Anthony rivals Trae Young when it comes to cooking defenders and scoring unassisted buckets at both the college and pro level. Sexton isn't that great one-on-one.
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Post#827 » by 76ciology » Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:06 am

Kobblehead wrote:Anthony has way higher upside when you take into consideration the huge gap between their shotcreating abilities. Anthony rivals Trae Young when it comes to cooking defenders and scoring unassisted buckets at both the college and pro level. Sexton isn't that great one-on-one.


I also see that.

But Sexton is way more advanced as a scorer than Anthony that I doubt he may reach that level whereas i think you project him to be a better scorer than sexton by year 3.

Yes Sexton is not that great one on one. Ive been looking at the numbers on sexton like a couple of weeks ago when it comes to iso. But when we go to Sexton or Cole Anthony route, I’m going for a more collective way of offense where shot creation would be distributed evenly among Maxey, Sexton, Tobi and Biid. So it’s not like we need a guy who needs to create shots on a high volume like he’s Harden.

Im looking more like the Spurs heavy dribble drive with a handful of scorers who can shoot and score. If we need an iso basket, thats where Biid comes into the picture or maybe run some 2 man action like how Spurs run with TP or Manu with TD back then, force the defense to switch to attack the mismatch or generate a step advantage for the ball handler then attack to the rim.

Even if Cole Anthony is a superior iso player, I still wont let him have high volume of ISO possessions given how bad his scoring numbers are. But yeah, things will change if he makes a jump in the next 2 seasons. But i doubt it, specially how bad he looked for the magic in the SL.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#828 » by Kobblehead » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:22 pm

I think Cole Anthony is going to be a star. Flat out stud IMO.
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Post#829 » by DCasey91 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:12 pm

76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Surprised you don't like Cole Anthony.

He's everything people think Colin Sexton is. Willing shooter, great one-on-one player. Alpha personality.

Isaac is basically a bust at this point. And he's always hurt.


First off, im not a big fan of Sexton. But I believe he is underrated and is the best scorer we can get for Ben.

Cole Anthony and Sexton are on the same level at age 20.

But I doubt Anthony can be as good as Sexton in the next 2 years and double his scoring average.

I’d rather go for Fultz, Immanuel Quickley or even Pritchard. But preferably not involving Ben.

P.S. Cole Anthony looked HORRIBLE in the recent SL.


Pritchard? I see your coming to the dark side :) :) there’s light at the end of the tunnel.

Love me some Peyton.

Also Isaac is a stud muffin. Way higher upside than Cole and has shown more too.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#830 » by DCasey91 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:17 pm

76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Anthony has way higher upside when you take into consideration the huge gap between their shotcreating abilities. Anthony rivals Trae Young when it comes to cooking defenders and scoring unassisted buckets at both the college and pro level. Sexton isn't that great one-on-one.


I also see that.

But Sexton is way more advanced as a scorer than Anthony that I doubt he may reach that level whereas i think you project him to be a better scorer than sexton by year 3.

Yes Sexton is not that great one on one. Ive been looking at the numbers on sexton like a couple of weeks ago when it comes to iso. But when we go to Sexton or Cole Anthony route, I’m going for a more collective way of offense where shot creation would be distributed evenly among Maxey, Sexton, Tobi and Biid. So it’s not like we need a guy who needs to create shots on a high volume like he’s Harden.

Im looking more like the Spurs heavy dribble drive with a handful of scorers who can shoot and score. If we need an iso basket, thats where Biid comes into the picture or maybe run some 2 man action like how Spurs run with TP or Manu with TD back then, force the defense to switch to attack the mismatch or generate a step advantage for the ball handler then attack to the rim.

Even if Cole Anthony is a superior iso player, I still wont let him have high volume of ISO possessions given how bad his scoring numbers are. But yeah, things will change if he makes a jump in the next 2 seasons. But i doubt it, specially how bad he looked for the magic in the SL.


I’m thinking more or less the Hakeem system. The offense was split between outside inside with more room to operate than all other bigs.

Spurs system worked because each position had a great passer on deck..... we have one but he’s going to be gone within the week lol. Ginobili/Parker into Duncan/Diaw/Splitter was majestic asf. Had shooters for days too Mills, Green, Beli.

Embiid centric offense won’t bring elite offense but for me it won’t be about that. As long as we post winning scores by volume and good shooting we should be fine backed up by our elite defense (which will once again take a hit lol).
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#831 » by the_process » Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:22 am

If Simmons doesn't show up, they get to hold onto that October 1st check he's due, right?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#832 » by Foshan » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:11 am

the_process wrote:If Simmons doesn't show up, they get to hold onto that October 1st check he's due, right?

I doubt it. Got to give Klutch props, his contract was perfectly set up to force a trade now
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#833 » by the_process » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:19 pm

Foshan wrote:
the_process wrote:If Simmons doesn't show up, they get to hold onto that October 1st check he's due, right?


I doubt it. Got to give Klutch props, his contract was perfectly set up to force a trade now


Well, the fines start now.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#834 » by Ad7 » Sat Oct 2, 2021 3:52 am

morey.. dont panic.. we can only do it once.. do it only for the championship

we were burried at the Tray time..
and we would resurrect at the Dame time.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#835 » by Tomjas » Sat Oct 2, 2021 3:56 am

the_process wrote:
Foshan wrote:
the_process wrote:If Simmons doesn't show up, they get to hold onto that October 1st check he's due, right?


I doubt it. Got to give Klutch props, his contract was perfectly set up to force a trade now


Well, the fines start now.


Irrelevant for anything bar Ben’s bank account as he isn’t here and our cap remains the same
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#836 » by the_process » Sat Oct 2, 2021 1:03 pm

Foshan wrote:
the_process wrote:If Simmons doesn't show up, they get to hold onto that October 1st check he's due, right?

I doubt it. Got to give Klutch props, his contract was perfectly set up to force a trade now


Yep, they certainly did hold on to that check.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#837 » by the_process » Tue Oct 5, 2021 2:33 am

I’m assuming Morey and Rivers have some kind of plan or vision for this team.

Not sure what it is, though.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#838 » by zaz102 » Sat Oct 9, 2021 7:17 pm

the_process wrote:I’m assuming Morey and Rivers have some kind of plan or vision for this team.

Not sure what it is, though.
I think it's clear Morey's plan is to flip Simmons for a superstar or the assets to flip for a superstar. Obviously that's not an easy task.

I'm sure Doc is just going to do the best he can with the team he has, but the team is incomplete until this whole fiasco is sorted out.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#839 » by the_process » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:23 am

Two guys whom the Sixers should be looking to move by the deadline: Green and Korkmaz.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#840 » by 76ciology » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:43 am

the_process wrote:I’m assuming Morey and Rivers have some kind of plan or vision for this team.

Not sure what it is, though.


Regarding Ben and the Sixers’ situation?

I do think they’re betting heavy that Dame will be available.

I still strong believe that both Doc and Morey signed with our team in the belief that we would land Harden. They were THAT sure.

I just hope we have a plan if we’re not able to land Dame.
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