2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft

76ciology · Post #821 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:50 am

Isn't it harder to build around Sarr than Edey? It's easier to find a 4 who can space the floor than a 5.

Wouldn't Edey have a better chance of winning the scoring battle against Tatum in the post after a switch than Tatum shooting over Edey's 9'6" standing reach?

Kobblehead · Post #822 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:48 am

76ciology wrote:Why would you waste a top 10 pick on a guard who can’t shoot and is not a scorer with Stephon Castle?

Same reason Orlando did it with Anthony Black last year.

Sometimes you just roll the dice on a big, athletic, young guy with basketball IQ and passing ability and hope for exponential growth once he gets NBA coaching and development.

Negrodamus · Post #823 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:29 pm

76ciology wrote:Why would you waste a top 10 pick on a guard who can’t shoot and is not a scorer with Stephon Castle?

Not too bad of a shooter. 75% from FT is OK; definitely something you can work with. His 3FG% isn’t really that important (reference: Maxey). He was +50% from 2FG, which is definitely something you’d like to see. I can understand the interest, however I haven’t watched a whole lot of him since he’s decidedly out of our range.

Kobblehead · Post #824 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:35 pm

Tankathon finally has us mocked to get Ja'Kobe Walter!!

The Filipowski/Missi era is over!

Post #825 » by **Stanford** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:53 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Tankathon finally has us mocked to get Ja'Kobe Walter!!

The Filipowski/Missi era is over!

Who are your targets at 41? Assuming they trade the first and keep it.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #826 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:14 pm

Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Tankathon finally has us mocked to get Ja'Kobe Walter!!

The Filipowski/Missi era is over!

Who are your targets at 41? Assuming they trade the first and keep it.

Anger, Bewilderment, Frustration all seem like good options.

Post #827 » by **Stanford** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:27 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Anger, Bewilderment, Frustration all seem like good options.

At least we know they'll be available

Negrodamus · Post #828 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:43 pm

My thoughts on Walter is that he’d be a smart pick, but don’t expect anything of use out of him for at least two years. He has a few numbers that project better to the NBA, but there isn’t much daylight between him and Carrington in my opinion. Flawed prospects with elite features and will take both some time to get comfortable at the pro level.

Kobblehead · Post #829 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:37 pm

Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Tankathon finally has us mocked to get Ja'Kobe Walter!!

The Filipowski/Missi era is over!

Who are your targets at 41? Assuming they trade the first and keep it.

Cam Christie, 18 - shooter
Trentyn Flowers, 19 - defender, athlete
Melvin Ajinca, 19 - shooter
Jaylen Wells, 20 - shooter
Harrison Ingram, 21 - jack of all trades, shooter
Dillon Jones, 22 - jack of all trades
Pelle Larsson, 23 - shooter
Jalen Bridges, 23 - shooter

Post #830 » by **Stanford** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:55 pm

Walter seems okay but I'd be afraid he wouldn't get by a single NBA defender and couldn't stop a single offensive player. Love the shooting and overall energy though.

Mik317 · Post #831 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:03 pm

the big ballhandler guard/wing is the white whale

You get one that hits and you have a building block that can fit into any team...don't even have to be great playmakers any more lol.

Thats why despite not being super impressed with Castle (I legit got him mixed up with Newton all the time) I get the hype.

Kobblehead · Post #832 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:09 pm

I think Walter will eventually be very good defensively. He's a fantastic athlete and has a 6'10" wingspan. He needs to get stronger and he needs to get coached up.

Offensively, I just want him to slide into the spacer role. He's got a great trigger from three and he's a magnet for free throw attempts. He's great at drawing contact and fooling defenders. He's the type of dude that would be a playoff killer to opposing teams. I envision a lot of 4 point plays with him.

Kobblehead · Post #833 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:13 pm

Negrodamus wrote:My thoughts on Walter is that he’d be a smart pick, but don’t expect anything of use out of him for at least two years. He has a few numbers that project better to the NBA, but there isn’t much daylight between him and Carrington in my opinion. Flawed prospects with elite features and will take both some time to get comfortable at the pro level.

I think Walter's rookie year will be similar to Jordan Hawkins. Play somewhere between 15-20 mpg and scoring 10 ppg or less. Out of playoff rotation.

The exciting part of it for me is getting a guy that pairs longterm with Maxey. Securing a backcourt is something that has eluded this franchise for the longest time.

I still think Carrington needs to play PG. Having he and Maxey together would be too much like the Kentucky days of Maxey/Quickley.

Negrodamus · Post #834 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:34 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:My thoughts on Walter is that he’d be a smart pick, but don’t expect anything of use out of him for at least two years. He has a few numbers that project better to the NBA, but there isn’t much daylight between him and Carrington in my opinion. Flawed prospects with elite features and will take both some time to get comfortable at the pro level.

I think Walter's rookie year will be similar to Jordan Hawkins. Play somewhere between 15-20 mpg and scoring 10 ppg or less. Out of playoff rotation.

The exciting part of it for me is getting a guy that pairs longterm with Maxey. Securing a backcourt is something that has eluded this franchise for the longest time.

I still think Carrington needs to play PG. Having he and Maxey together would be too much like the Kentucky days of Maxey/Quickley.

I actually see him like Herro. He can figure out off ball things, but if he gets his inside game to a solid level, he’s another on ball creator we so desperately need.

Lou_23 · Post #835 » by **Lou_23** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:54 pm

If the rumours are true and Dillingham can be available in our pick, I will be very dissapointed if we dont draft him, my favourite player in the draft.

Negrodamus · Post #836 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:09 pm

Lou_23 wrote:If the rumours are true and Dillingham can be available in our pick, I will be very dissapointed if we dont draft him, my favourite player in the draft.

Wouldn’t be mad at it, he’s one of those 6’1 dynamos you just take a chance on. He’d likely have to be off the bench for the first few seasons.

FireMorey · Post #837 » by **FireMorey** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:37 pm

Seems like Devin Carter is climbing draft boards. The few guys I'm interested in all probably won't be there. Hope one of them falls. I'd love Dillingham, but I doubt he's there.

Mik317 · Post #838 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:57 pm

Lou_23 wrote:If the rumours are true and Dillingham can be available in our pick, I will be very dissapointed if we dont draft him, my favourite player in the draft.

he is fun as hell to watch

but not being able to really play next to Maxey longterm does hurt him

but you take BPA all day.

does sound like Klutch is trying to get him to LA tho

Post #839 » by **Stanford** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:03 pm

Mik317 wrote:but not being able to really play next to Maxey longterm does hurt him

If he's good, he's a tradable piece. Teams are looking for more than just picks in a trade these days. We haven't had a player anyone gives a damn about other than Maxey, who was too good to trade.

Negrodamus · Post #840 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:53 pm

Dillingham would be the first guy I’d feel comfortable taking the last shot on our roster since Iverson. Maybe Lou Will. Coincidentally, he fits their mold.