Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

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Comparing rebounding numbers of each team’s likely best 5 man unit

Boston Celtics
- Kristaps Porzingis: 7.2 RPG, 13.1% Reb%
- Jayson Tatum: 8.1 RPG, 12.3% Reb%
- Jaylen Brown: 5.5 RPG, 8.9% Reb%
- Derrick White: 4.2 RPG, 7.0% Reb%
- Jrue Holiday: 5.4 RPG, 8.9% Reb%
- Total RPG: 30.4 RPG
- Total Reb%: 50.2%
- Team Average RPG: 6.08 RPG
- Team Average Reb%: 10.04%

Philadelphia 76ers
- Joel Embiid: 11 RPG, 18.1% Reb%
- Kelly Oubre: 5 RPG, 9.2% Reb%
- Paul George: 5.2 RPG, 8.8% Reb%
- Caleb Martin: 4.4 RPG, 9.1% Reb%
- Tyrese Maxey: 3.7 RPG, 5.4% Reb%
- Total RPG: 29.3 RPG
- Total Reb%: 50.6%
- Team Average RPG: 5.86 RPG
- Team Average Reb%: 10.12%
*Drummond 9rpg, 29.3 Reb%


New York Knicks
- Karl Towns: 8.3 RPG, 14.4% Reb%
- OG Anunoby: 4.4 RPG, 7.1% Reb%
- Mikal Bridges: 4.5 RPG, 7.1% Reb%
- Josh Hart: 8.3 RPG, 14% Reb%
- Jalen Brunson: 3.6 RPG, 5.7% Reb%
- Total RPG: 29.1 RPG (29.3% if replace Hart with Robinson)
- Total Reb%: 48.3% (53.5% if replace Hart with Robinson)
- Team Average RPG: 5.82 RPG (5.86 if replace Hart with Robinson)
- Team Average Reb%: 9.66% (10.7% if replace Hart with Robinson)
*Mitchell Robinson 8.5rpg, 19.2 Reb%

I believe the Celtics are currently the best rebounding team among the 3 because when Kristaps Porzingis is outside the paint defending the perimeter, Jayson Tatum provides strong support with an impressive rebound percentage of 12.3%. Additionally, their backcourt players, including Derrick White and Jrue Holiday, rebound effectively, with percentages around 7%, which is comparable to wings like OG Anunoby, Mikal Bridges, and Paul George.

Surprisingly, the Knicks don’t have rebounding numbers that stand out compared to the Celtics and 76ers, which I expected. While you could argue that inserting Mitchell Robinson would improve their rebounding, it’s worth noting that he would likely replace Josh Hart, who has almost similar rebound per game.

For our team, a significant portion of our rebounding responsibility falls on our centers, Joel Embiid and Andre Drummond. However, if both the Celtics and Knicks play with a stretch five, pulling our bigs away from the paint, players like Kelly Oubre and Paul George need to step up their rebounding efforts. I’d like to believe that Tyrese Maxey has added some muscle to become a better rebounder. While he may have improved, I think it’s more beneficial for him to leak out for transition opportunities rather than focusing solely on rebounding.

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Paul George on another level.

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Caleb Martin Presser Notes:

Caleb Martin says he's 6'6 with shoes on when asked about playing power forward. He doesn't look at it as playing the 4 and believes it to be position-less basketball

Caleb Martin says there's good buzz amongst the Sixers so far and he's comfortable guarding a variety of positions

Caleb Martin says his experience in different roles with different teams will help him be prepared with the Sixers. He's eager to play for Nick Nurse and reunite with Kyle Lowry

Caleb Martin wants to be more vocal on the court and believes the Sixers are "number one, team of the year" and he's excited to have the support of Philadelphia fans

[elchengue20]

KAT over Randle is a good upgrade for NYK. Better player and also way better fit.

Di Vicenzo is a tough loss tho. He was the best shooter by far, key for their chemistry and a big game player.

Overall they got better and i see them as more of a menace now, but still think we should be better than them.

[mjkvol]

KAT over Randle is a good upgrade for NYK. Better player and also way better fit.

Di Vicenzo is a tough loss tho. He was the best shooter by far, key for their chemistry and a big game player.

Overall they got better and i see them as more of a menace now, but still think we should be better than them.

Not sure if they're more of a menace with much of their heart and soul gone with Hartenstein and DiVincenzo as well as their best 3-pt. shooter. They gain spacing with KAT, but lose a lot of the intangibles that made the Knicks so hard to play against. I guess we'll see.

[elchengue20]

KAT over Randle is a good upgrade for NYK. Better player and also way better fit.

Di Vicenzo is a tough loss tho. He was the best shooter by far, key for their chemistry and a big game player.

Overall they got better and i see them as more of a menace now, but still think we should be better than them.

Not sure if they're more of a menace with much of their heart and soul gone with Hartenstein and DiVincenzo as well as their best 3-pt. shooter. They gain spacing with KAT, but lose a lot of the intangibles that made the Knicks so hard to play against. I guess we'll see.

Agree, but don't forget they also added Bridges. Maybe they won't be as cohesive and gritty but objectively they have the best duo of perimeter defenders in the league.

Overall i think they got slightly better, considering that the intangibles and thougness are going to be worse.

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He is talking about the British currency he lost while in Europe this summer.

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Curious on thoughts on Coby White. Any interest in trying to pry him from Chicago?

[ivysixer2000]

KAT over Randle is a good upgrade for NYK. Better player and also way better fit.

Di Vicenzo is a tough loss tho. He was the best shooter by far, key for their chemistry and a big game player.

Overall they got better and i see them as more of a menace now, but still think we should be better than them.

Not sure if they're more of a menace with much of their heart and soul gone with Hartenstein and DiVincenzo as well as their best 3-pt. shooter. They gain spacing with KAT, but lose a lot of the intangibles that made the Knicks so hard to play against. I guess we'll see.

Agree, but don't forget they also added Bridges. Maybe they won't be as cohesive and gritty but objectively they have the best duo of perimeter defenders in the league.

Overall i think they got slightly better, considering that the intangibles and thougness are going to be worse.

I do believe the Knicks got better, without a doubt. If we are both healthy, I do think it would be very close. Of those top 3, I figure it would be close between all of them.

With that trade, the Knicks did decrease our need for a PF significantly, with only the Bucks and Cavs having significant size. With their deal, I would rather keep our resources unless its a great deal.

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Caleb Martin Presser Notes:

Caleb Martin says he's 6'6 with shoes on when asked about playing power forward. He doesn't look at it as playing the 4 and believes it to be position-less basketball

Caleb Martin says there's good buzz amongst the Sixers so far and he's comfortable guarding a variety of positions

Caleb Martin says his experience in different roles with different teams will help him be prepared with the Sixers. He's eager to play for Nick Nurse and reunite with Kyle Lowry

Caleb Martin wants to be more vocal on the court and believes the Sixers are "number one, team of the year" and he's excited to have the support of Philadelphia fans

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Thought they were doing something like this watching it hah

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KAT over Randle is a good upgrade for NYK. Better player and also way better fit.

Di Vicenzo is a tough loss tho. He was the best shooter by far, key for their chemistry and a big game player.

Overall they got better and i see them as more of a menace now, but still think we should be better than them.

Not sure if they're more of a menace with much of their heart and soul gone with Hartenstein and DiVincenzo as well as their best 3-pt. shooter. They gain spacing with KAT, but lose a lot of the intangibles that made the Knicks so hard to play against. I guess we'll see.

First off, I believe KAT is a clear upgrade over Randle. Whether it's a significant difference is debatable, but where KAT can truly help the Knicks is by enabling them to play a double-big lineup as a counter to players like Embiid or Giannis. Against most teams, the Knicks can run a 5-out offense, but against teams with dominant bigs, they have the flexibility to switch to a double-big setup.

Additionally, they could put OG on Embiid, similar to how the Knicks used Jrue on him in the past, while KAT could roam around like KP, providing help defense. It’s uncertain if this would be as effective as the Celtics' approach, but it seems like a viable strategy in theory.

[Jailblazers7]

I think the Jrue or OG on Embiid strategy starts to fall apart when we have proper spacing around him. That strategy works when you have wings ready to send a double team. Swapping PG for Tobias makes that way less effective.

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I think the Jrue or OG on Embiid strategy starts to fall apart when we have proper spacing around him. That strategy works when you have wings ready to send a double team. Swapping PG for Tobias makes that way less effective.

I thought OG did a solid job on Embiid late in that Knicks series. While Jrue was decent, especially with the turnovers he forced, neither player can defend Embiid one-on-one effectively. The goal, however, isn't to lock him down in isolation but to swarm him, forcing him into post-ups or turning him into a facilitator. This strategy can push the opposing offense into a more predictable, isolation heavy style, reminiscent of Doc Rivers' 1v1 sets, which are generally easier to defend.

Yes, the team’s spacing could be improved, but we still have Oubre, and Caleb's reliability as a shooter remains uncertain. Ultimately, no defense can completely stop superstars in today’s game. The key is to slow them down with smart schemes. Placing a physical defender on Embiid and using a weak side helper has proven effective in the past, dating back to when the Baynes-Horford duo frustrated Embiid in 2018.

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Curious on thoughts on Coby White. Any interest in trying to pry him from Chicago?

I’d rather use assets for wings or PF.

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Joel Embiid:

“We gotta do whatever it takes to make sure that in the postseason I am healthy. This year, there’s no agenda, there’s no All-Star, there’s no All-NBA.”

[mjkvol]

KAT over Randle is a good upgrade for NYK. Better player and also way better fit.

Di Vicenzo is a tough loss tho. He was the best shooter by far, key for their chemistry and a big game player.

Overall they got better and i see them as more of a menace now, but still think we should be better than them.

Not sure if they're more of a menace with much of their heart and soul gone with Hartenstein and DiVincenzo as well as their best 3-pt. shooter. They gain spacing with KAT, but lose a lot of the intangibles that made the Knicks so hard to play against. I guess we'll see.

First off, I believe KAT is a clear upgrade over Randle. Whether it's a significant difference is debatable, but where KAT can truly help the Knicks is by enabling them to play a double-big lineup as a counter to players like Embiid or Giannis. Against most teams, the Knicks can run a 5-out offense, but against teams with dominant bigs, they have the flexibility to switch to a double-big setup.

Additionally, they could put OG on Embiid, similar to how the Knicks used Jrue on him in the past, while KAT could roam around like KP, providing help defense. It’s uncertain if this would be as effective as the Celtics' approach, but it seems like a viable strategy in theory.

Funny, but my statement and analysis of the Knicks didn't even take into account the presence of lack of Randle, only that moving him was essential, so I never thought of it as 'Randle vs. KAT'.

To me, it's Hartenstein and DiVincenzo vs. Bridges and KAT. From a creation and spacing aspect and on paper, they clearly upgraded substantially. The games aren't played on paper, and it remains to be seen if this new group will mesh with Thibs' coaching style, as he had a perfect group last year with regard to how he likes to play. We'll see how much the loss of the physical presence of Hartenstein and fire and shooting of DiVincenzo affects them.

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Joel Embiid:

“We gotta do whatever it takes to make sure that in the postseason I am healthy. This year, there’s no agenda, there’s no All-Star, there’s no All-NBA.”

Ok, so he's willing to take a step back offensively and step up defensively then?

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Joel Embiid:

“We gotta do whatever it takes to make sure that in the postseason I am healthy. This year, there’s no agenda, there’s no All-Star, there’s no All-NBA.”

Ok, so he's willing to take a step back offensively and step up defensively then?

“My job this year and what I really want to focus on is empowering these guys,” Embiid said during the team’s annual media day inside its Camden facility. “I will [take over] when I have to. If it means I have to score some points at some point, then I’m going to do it, but most of the time I really want to focus on just really letting the game come to me. I think in previous years I’ve had to [take over] because we didn’t necessarily have the manpower for me to kind of take that step back and [still] put us in a position to win, but I feel like this year with the guys that we added, [he can take a step back].”