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               Iverson Armband
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Love to see that our base tanking knowledge is still there after all these years.  Excellent work guys.
            
                                    
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Loving our tank work these last few weeks.
Also bringing some good ol memories back
            
                                    
                                    
                        Also bringing some good ol memories back
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Iverson Armband wrote:Love to see that our base tanking knowledge is still there after all these years. Excellent work guys.
Don't know **** about making a conference championship but if you got a question about tanking or navicular bones, we're the ones to call.
They say an analytics man doesn't have a heart, but I ran the numbers and nothing can be further from the truth     - Sam Hinkie probably
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               agiaco
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               SixthStreet
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I haven't felt this alive since 2017
            
                                    
                                    
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Naw just felt like people were content with 5th. But when I ran tankathon it was horrifying how many times we lost the pick or dropped top 6th.sixers hoops wrote:eyeatoma wrote:This is why I'm saying we need to go for the 4th.ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I finally played the draft simulator thing and I wish I never clicked on it. I played it 20 times...We kept our pick ten out of those 20 attempts and that's with us in the fifth spot.
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Everybody knows that the 4th gives us better odds than the 5th. Are you receiving a lot of pushback on that idea? They’re holding Grimes out for rest, and haven’t played Maxey in two months. Of course they want to “go for it,” but it is mostly out of our hands. We waited too long to shut things down. We can watch some games with Pels hats on, but there isn’t many other ways to go for it. Pels management likely doesn’t want to win more than us and they won’t be favored in many more games. It’s still possible though.
The only move I see left is pulling Grimes and anybody else playing well in 4th quarters. The league fines teams for not playing healthy players in certain situations, but they can’t challenge a coach on in-game decisions. Raps are trying to lose by limiting starters mins. It’s just that their schedule is so easy, they can’t help it.
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               sixers hoops
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eyeatoma wrote:Naw just felt like people were content with 5th. But when I ran tankathon it was horrifying how many times we lost the pick or dropped top 6th.sixers hoops wrote:eyeatoma wrote:This is why I'm saying we need to go for the 4th.
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Everybody knows that the 4th gives us better odds than the 5th. Are you receiving a lot of pushback on that idea? They’re holding Grimes out for rest, and haven’t played Maxey in two months. Of course they want to “go for it,” but it is mostly out of our hands. We waited too long to shut things down. We can watch some games with Pels hats on, but there isn’t many other ways to go for it. Pels management likely doesn’t want to win more than us and they won’t be favored in many more games. It’s still possible though.
The only move I see left is pulling Grimes and anybody else playing well in 4th quarters. The league fines teams for not playing healthy players in certain situations, but they can’t challenge a coach on in-game decisions. Raps are trying to lose by limiting starters mins. It’s just that their schedule is so easy, they can’t help it.
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I think people want us to lose out and hope for the best. People are just realistic about the chances of the Pels going 2-5 or 3-4 to close the season.
They could be favored in Brooklyn. Maybe OKC doesn’t bring the full roster to finish the season. They have Miami at home. I would be more optimistic of their chances if I wasn’t concerned about their organization taking their foot off the gas. They may view finishing the season strong as more important than a few ping pong balls.
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               sixers hoops
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Iverson Armband wrote:Love to see that our base tanking knowledge is still there after all these years. Excellent work guys.
A little rusty, but our talent is clear.
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               sixers hoops
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MVP1992 wrote:Sixersftw wrote:Slacktard wrote:
Split odds is how it works. So say two teams tied for 5th and 5th place was 100 chances, 6th was 90 chances. Each team would get 95 chances.
The coinflip was the old NFL rule right? For some reason I had a coinflip in my head too.
Oki doki. I partially misinterpreted this excerpt from the bottom of Tankathon website.
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Tied lottery teams split their ping pong balls evenly, and any odd remainder and the better draft order position are given to the random drawing winner"
Except, when not in the lottery. The 'coin flip' tie breaker does determine draft position.
https://www.nba.com/news/ties-broken-for-order-of-selection-in-2024-nba-draft-presented-by-state-farm
2024
"The Philadelphia 76ers (47-35) won a tiebreaker with the Indiana Pacers, the Los Angeles Lakers, and the Orlando Magic. Second, third, and fourth place in the tiebreaker drawings went to the Los Angeles Lakers, Orlando, and Indiana, respectively."
I think where the coin flip is so important is that it declares a team in the 4th slot. While winning a coin flip would only give you one more ping pong ball in the odds, it could award you the 4th worst team odds in the event you don’t win the lottery.
Subsequently, if my math is correct, the team that wins the coin flip has a much greater chance at getting the 5th or 6th pick.
Odds of 4th worst team keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~80%
Odds of a team tying for 4th worst team winning a coin flip keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~78%
Odds of a team tying for 4th worst team losing a coin flip keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~66%
Odds of 5th worst team keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~64%
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eyeatoma wrote:Naw just felt like people were content with 5th. But when I ran tankathon it was horrifying how many times we lost the pick or dropped top 6th.sixers hoops wrote:eyeatoma wrote:This is why I'm saying we need to go for the 4th.
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Everybody knows that the 4th gives us better odds than the 5th. Are you receiving a lot of pushback on that idea? They’re holding Grimes out for rest, and haven’t played Maxey in two months. Of course they want to “go for it,” but it is mostly out of our hands. We waited too long to shut things down. We can watch some games with Pels hats on, but there isn’t many other ways to go for it. Pels management likely doesn’t want to win more than us and they won’t be favored in many more games. It’s still possible though.
The only move I see left is pulling Grimes and anybody else playing well in 4th quarters. The league fines teams for not playing healthy players in certain situations, but they can’t challenge a coach on in-game decisions. Raps are trying to lose by limiting starters mins. It’s just that their schedule is so easy, they can’t help it.
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Odds are the odds, man, don’t matter how many times you spin the wheel it’s still the same exact chance every time.
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sixers hoops wrote:MVP1992 wrote:Sixersftw wrote:The coinflip was the old NFL rule right? For some reason I had a coinflip in my head too.
Oki doki. I partially misinterpreted this excerpt from the bottom of Tankathon website.
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Tied lottery teams split their ping pong balls evenly, and any odd remainder and the better draft order position are given to the random drawing winner"
Except, when not in the lottery. The 'coin flip' tie breaker does determine draft position.
https://www.nba.com/news/ties-broken-for-order-of-selection-in-2024-nba-draft-presented-by-state-farm
2024
"The Philadelphia 76ers (47-35) won a tiebreaker with the Indiana Pacers, the Los Angeles Lakers, and the Orlando Magic. Second, third, and fourth place in the tiebreaker drawings went to the Los Angeles Lakers, Orlando, and Indiana, respectively."
I think where the coin flip is so important is that it declares a team in the 4th slot. While winning a coin flip would only give you one more ping pong ball in the odds, it could award you the 4th worst team odds in the event you don’t win the lottery.
Subsequently, if my math is correct, the team that wins the coin flip has a much greater chance at getting the 5th or 6th pick.
Odds of 4th worst team keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~80%
Odds of a team tying for 4th worst team winning a coin flip keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~78%
Odds of a team tying for 4th worst team losing a coin flip keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~66%
Odds of 5th worst team keeping a top 6 protected pick are ~64%
What is the math you are using to calculate 78% and 66%? I believe both of those should be 72%, with a tiny (0.1%) difference between the winner and loser of the coin flip.
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               LordCovington33
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Sixersftw wrote:Iverson Armband wrote:Love to see that our base tanking knowledge is still there after all these years. Excellent work guys.
Don't know **** about making a conference championship but if you got a question about tanking or navicular bones, we're the ones to call.
When you want to tank
To keep your pick
Who you gonna call?
Tank watchers
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New Orleans got the memo. Zion and CJ out for the rest of the season.
            
                                    
                                    2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
                        Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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Sixersftw wrote:Iverson Armband wrote:Love to see that our base tanking knowledge is still there after all these years. Excellent work guys.
Don't know **** about making a conference championship but if you got a question about tanking or navicular bones, we're the ones to call.
Wow straight to the jugular.

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Nets playing their full healthy lineup today with D Lo and Claxton, and the Mavs are sadly/hilariously trash at shot creation with no Luka or Kyrie, gotta rely on a lot of jumpers.
There is hope.
            
                                    
                                    
                        There is hope.
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ProcessDoctor wrote:New Orleans got the memo. Zion and CJ out for the rest of the season.
Yup, barring an unforeseen win streak by us or one of the teams ahead of us in the tankathon, we are pretty much locked in as either the 5th or 6th worst record.
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HotelVitale wrote:Nets playing their full healthy lineup today with D Lo and Claxton, and the Mavs are sadly/hilariously trash at shot creation with no Luka or Kyrie, gotta rely on a lot of jumpers.
There is hope.
Watch the Nets go up double digits and then squander the lead to get pipped at the post - just to annoy us once again
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The Mavericks with 8 unanswered points to end the half
            
                                    
                                    
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LordCovington33 wrote:The Mavericks with 8 unanswered points to end the half
Tied going into the 4th though...
EDIT: then 10 unanswered.
Balls.
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Brooklyn is Brooklyning.  
As far as records go..... Stop the count!
            
                                    
                                    
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