Unbreakable99 wrote:Misteclipse wrote:Ericb5 wrote:
What you say about Ball's passing ability is true, but it is also true of Simmons. They both see things that others don't and create things out of thin air for other people with their passing.
During the season I said that I thought Ball's passing was as good as Simmons', and nobody agreed with me. Now people are some how elevating him above Simmons.
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They're completely different passers. The only thing they really have in common is rebounding and transition passing. Ball is nothing special at all as a half court passer because he's not a creator. He's essentially Draymond, waiting for a teammate to get open off a screen and hitting them. Ben Simmons attacks the basket and forces the defense to react, then finds the open guy the defense leaves open by collapsing or rotating
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Ben is a better attacker but Ball is special passing anywhere on the court. He's phenomenal in the half court as well. Ball is a wizard. He said just not flashy. He just makes basic passes but they are right where they need to be. Simmons is flashier but he's not a better passer imo. If Ball is a 10 at passing Simmons is a 9.
C'mon man, Lonzo Ball is not "phenomenal in the half court" - he's very limited in the half court. He was so bad he wasn't even the primary ball handler in the half court for his college team. He's a pretty average player against a set defense and his basic passes are the product of his limitations, ie "I can't dribble around this guy I'd better just palm the ball off to someone". There's no doubt he's an elite passer especially in brokern play/transition but Simmons has the potential to use his passing in a lot more situations than Lonzo will.