Playoffs!?

[ProcessDoctor]

These Celtics are chokers, which is really a gut punch in terms of how bad the mental makeup of this Sixers team is. Especially Harden and Embiid.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

These Celtics are chokers, which is really a gut punch in terms of how bad the mental makeup of this Sixers team is. Especially Harden and Embiid.

And people in here want to bring Harden back for 200 million dollars because it keeps us "contending."

[youngcrev]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

Miami brought him back last summer for basically nothing. Players like Martin are out there, but you have to play them. It also takes a combination of the things you spoke to get the most out of them. You hit on it.. culture, state of mind, toughness. We're on the right track with Melton, and Tucker here.

[Ferry Avenue]

These Celtics are chokers, which is really a gut punch in terms of how bad the mental makeup of this Sixers team is. Especially Harden and Embiid.

I noted here two years ago Harden and Embiid would be a ceiling on this team because of their mental makeup alone. That's done nothing but unfold since then. In response people talked merely schematically about the "surrounding pieces needed" after the Harden acquisition -- surrounding pieces mean nothing if your spearhead players are your limiting factor in winning.

What an incredible difference in the performance in a game 2 on the road after having won game 1. The Sixers get blown out and pull their starters, while the Heat overtake the Celtics during the same period of the game. One could predict, as I did, the Sixers would lose that game with certainty, whereas the Heat gave legitimate hope for an unlikely win because of their culture alone.

Anybody still feel like the Sixers should enjoy a moral victory because they took "the best team in the league" to seven games?

This organization needs a culture transplant. If they go into next year with Harden and Embiid the alphas of the team nothing will change.

[Ferry Avenue]

Watching Jimmy is more and more a bitter sweet feeling. I want this guy to win because that's all he cares about. You can't teach that type of character and will, you either have it or not. Harden looks like a dead cow next to this guy.
Jimmy may not be the most talented player, but he certainly has a Jordan type of mentality.

We ruined the process by letting Butler go. I'm more and more convinced we would have won the chip by now if he stayed. In 3 months playing in Sixers uniform, he took us Kawhi shot away from ECF. Imagine if he had more time to take over the reigns in Philly and build this type of culture around the team. I'm sure Embiid would be a better player today because Butler would have demanded nothing but the same effort from him.

But no, we were trying to be cute with our roster and rely on Harris and Simmons to be our 2nd and 3rd guys.. No way in 100 years we'd be winning anything with them.. And we won't. Not until we get mentally strong players and dogs, but with talent on this roster.

You mean having dogs lead your team is important?

[Zumramania]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

As some have pointed out, we have quite a few g-league players of our own, the facts that the Blue Coats won the G-league and Jaden Springer was the finals MVP tells it all...that moron on the bench did not only not make adjustments but he also made no effort what so ever to develop players.

[mjkvol]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

Guys like Martin, Vincent, and Strus would be languishing on the bench here with Glenn as the coach, and we'd see them as scrubs like Korkmaz and hope to move them for players that "fit" what Glenn did, whatever that was.

They're tougher because of an ecosystem that develops and brings that out of players, and a coach who maximizes his roster and isn't afraid to try things and give players a chance to shine. The regular season is like a laboratory in Miami, giving these guys the time to gain confidence and find a place in the rotation, and the results are seen in the playoffs.

[Kobblehead]

Caleb was the flashy, brash brother.

Cody is the smart one with the basketball IQ. Cody has been languishing in Charlotte. He'd definitely be gettable.

[youngcrev]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

Guys like Martin, Vincent, and Strus would be languishing on the bench here with Glenn as the coach, and we'd see them as scrubs like Korkmaz and hope to move them for players that "fit" what Glenn did, whatever that was.

They're tougher because of an ecosystem that develops and brings that out of players, and a coach who maximizes his roster and isn't afraid to try things and give players a chance to shine. The regular season is like a laboratory in Miami, giving these guys the time to gain confidence and find a place in the rotation, and the results are seen in the playoffs.

I think that's true, but that's not unique to Doc.

Most places don't have genuine open competitions for playing time. A GM gives Duncan Robinson a contract like that, he's not gonna be too happy that you're playing random dudes off the street over him. I mean... They've got 2 undrafted, minimum salary players starting along with a mid season buyout guy, as well as another undrafted guy playing major minutes off the bench.

Miami is the unique one in this situation, not Doc.

[Arsenal]

Caleb was the flashy, brash brother.

Cody is the smart one with the basketball IQ. Cody has been languishing in Charlotte. He'd definitely be gettable.

Unfortunately he has 3 years left on his contract coming off an awful / injured season. If he was expiring I'd be interested, but now we need to pivot to having cap room in 2024.

[youngcrev]

Caleb was the flashy, brash brother.

Cody is the smart one with the basketball IQ. Cody has been languishing in Charlotte. He'd definitely be gettable.

Unfortunately he has 3 years left on his contract coming off an awful / injured season. If he was expiring I'd be interested, but now we need to pivot to having cap room in 2024.

Who are the free agents in 2024 that we'd be pinning our hopes on signing with us? The list looks pretty underwhelming to me when you factor in the age of most of the guys, but maybe I'm missing someone.

[Arsenal]

Caleb was the flashy, brash brother.

Cody is the smart one with the basketball IQ. Cody has been languishing in Charlotte. He'd definitely be gettable.

Unfortunately he has 3 years left on his contract coming off an awful / injured season. If he was expiring I'd be interested, but now we need to pivot to having cap room in 2024.

Who are the free agents in 2024 that we'd be pinning our hopes on signing with us? The list looks pretty underwhelming to me when you factor in the age of most of the guys, but maybe I'm missing someone.

It's about having flexibility. Give the young guys one year to see who steps up. Then we can either resign them, sign and trade them, sign free agents, or leverage the open cap room to get assets from other teams.

[phillynative]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

A similar player to Caleb Martin is Bruce Brown Jr who is helping the Nuggets. Sixers probably should of went harder after him than PJ who will be 40 soon.

[mjkvol]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

Guys like Martin, Vincent, and Strus would be languishing on the bench here with Glenn as the coach, and we'd see them as scrubs like Korkmaz and hope to move them for players that "fit" what Glenn did, whatever that was.

They're tougher because of an ecosystem that develops and brings that out of players, and a coach who maximizes his roster and isn't afraid to try things and give players a chance to shine. The regular season is like a laboratory in Miami, giving these guys the time to gain confidence and find a place in the rotation, and the results are seen in the playoffs.

I think that's true, but that's not unique to Doc.

Most places don't have genuine open competitions for playing time. A GM gives Duncan Robinson a contract like that, he's not gonna be too happy that you're playing random dudes off the street over him. I mean... They've got 2 undrafted, minimum salary players starting along with a mid season buyout guy, as well as another undrafted guy playing major minutes off the bench.

Miami is the unique one in this situation, not Doc.

I was wondering last night during the game how guys who have been banished or underutilized like Korkmaz, Milton, and Reed might have fared had their careers been in Miami. If Struss and Vincent can be useful players that show up in big games, why not Shake and Kork? And Reed might be a monster off the bench in a Spo system.

[phillynative]

Heat Culture, man. One of those terms that makes you cringe... And yet. The talent isn't there on that team. They're just tougher. They just play hard and they're not afraid of the moment. And they've got a star that lives to be the villain.

We could use a guy like Caleb Martin. Think we could just clone him? Wait, there's another one?

Seriously, think Cody's trade value went up because of how well Caleb has played?

As some have pointed out, we have quite a few g-league players of our own, the facts that the Blue Coats won the G-league and Jaden Springer was the finals MVP tells it all...that moron on the bench did not only not make adjustments but he also made no effort what so ever to develop players.

Hopefully we can get some of these guys that played in the G-League a chance to see if they can offer to the team. Ofcourse Springer, Louis King could have wing scorer potential off the bench and stretch 4 with that size, Michael Foster and Braxton Key are also intriguing 2way potential guys...

[youngcrev]

Guys like Martin, Vincent, and Strus would be languishing on the bench here with Glenn as the coach, and we'd see them as scrubs like Korkmaz and hope to move them for players that "fit" what Glenn did, whatever that was.

They're tougher because of an ecosystem that develops and brings that out of players, and a coach who maximizes his roster and isn't afraid to try things and give players a chance to shine. The regular season is like a laboratory in Miami, giving these guys the time to gain confidence and find a place in the rotation, and the results are seen in the playoffs.

I think that's true, but that's not unique to Doc.

Most places don't have genuine open competitions for playing time. A GM gives Duncan Robinson a contract like that, he's not gonna be too happy that you're playing random dudes off the street over him. I mean... They've got 2 undrafted, minimum salary players starting along with a mid season buyout guy, as well as another undrafted guy playing major minutes off the bench.

Miami is the unique one in this situation, not Doc.

I was wondering last night during the game how guys who have been banished or underutilized like Korkmaz, Milton, and Reed might have fared had their careers been in Miami. If Struss and Vincent can be useful players that show up in big games, why not Shake and Kork? And Reed might be a monster off the bench in a Spo system.

I don't.

Their thing is more about identifying those type of guys rather than magically turning someone into something they're not. It's not like Shake and Korkmaz haven't had a ton of opportunity here over the years.

It's kinda silly that we were playing Trez over Reed knowing full well he wasn't going to be a playoff viable option, but maybe that competition drives BBall to work harder rather than simply being gifted minutes and being allowed to do some of the dumb **** he does.

It certainly doesn't seem like Miami gifts anything to players, they just give them the opportunity to earn it.

[mjkvol]

I think that's true, but that's not unique to Doc.

Most places don't have genuine open competitions for playing time. A GM gives Duncan Robinson a contract like that, he's not gonna be too happy that you're playing random dudes off the street over him. I mean... They've got 2 undrafted, minimum salary players starting along with a mid season buyout guy, as well as another undrafted guy playing major minutes off the bench.

Miami is the unique one in this situation, not Doc.

I was wondering last night during the game how guys who have been banished or underutilized like Korkmaz, Milton, and Reed might have fared had their careers been in Miami. If Struss and Vincent can be useful players that show up in big games, why not Shake and Kork? And Reed might be a monster off the bench in a Spo system.

I don't.

Their thing is more about identifying those type of guys rather than magically turning someone into something they're not. It's not like Shake and Korkmaz haven't had a ton of opportunity here over the years.

It's kinda silly that we were playing Trez over Reed knowing full well he wasn't going to be a playoff viable option, but maybe that competition drives BBall to work harder rather than simply being gifted minutes and being allowed to do some of the dumb **** he does.

It certainly doesn't seem like Miami gifts anything to players, they just give them the opportunity to earn it.

When I see scrubs and journeymen performing the way so many have in places like Miami and San Antonio, I do wonder about guys who have some talent but have never put it together but shown flashes, like Shake and Korkmaz. Having an "opportunity" and being put in a situation to succeed are two entirely different things, kind of like reactionary desperation moves or garbage time opportunities vs. being part of a system where you're always prepared because you could get the call at any moment.

Miami's system encourages players to always be prepared, and they look for players with that mentality. Our system here has been to play favorites and bury guys, only giving them a shot when there was no other option. Not having players like Shake and Korkmaz, and even Springer - guys with specific skills that might be very useful in certain spots - ready to go if needed, but instead languishing on the bench with no expectancy of playing, is an utter lack of resources.

[Ferry Avenue]

Miami’s peripheral players play the way they do because they are inspired by their central player leadership, which creates a culture of performance and winning. “The rising tide that lifts all boats,” as they say.

The Sixers’ peripheral players play the way they do because of the opposite dynamic — uninspired and deflated, as a function of the ball and chain comprised of the central player leadership.

[youngcrev]

I was wondering last night during the game how guys who have been banished or underutilized like Korkmaz, Milton, and Reed might have fared had their careers been in Miami. If Struss and Vincent can be useful players that show up in big games, why not Shake and Kork? And Reed might be a monster off the bench in a Spo system.

I don't.

Their thing is more about identifying those type of guys rather than magically turning someone into something they're not. It's not like Shake and Korkmaz haven't had a ton of opportunity here over the years.

It's kinda silly that we were playing Trez over Reed knowing full well he wasn't going to be a playoff viable option, but maybe that competition drives BBall to work harder rather than simply being gifted minutes and being allowed to do some of the dumb **** he does.

It certainly doesn't seem like Miami gifts anything to players, they just give them the opportunity to earn it.

When I see scrubs and journeymen performing the way so many have in places like Miami and San Antonio, I do wonder about guys who have some talent but have never put it together but shown flashes, like Shake and Korkmaz. Having an "opportunity" and being put in a situation to succeed are two entirely different things, kind of like reactionary desperation moves or garbage time opportunities vs. being part of a system where you're always prepared because you could get the call at any moment.

Miami's system encourages players to always be prepared, and they look for players with that mentality. Our system here has been to play favorites and bury guys, only giving them a shot when there was no other option. Not having players like Shake and Korkmaz, and even Springer - guys with specific skills that might be very useful in certain spots - ready to go if needed, but instead languishing on the bench with no expectancy of playing, is an utter lack of resources.

I don't really think that's what it is though.

Shake's been averaging 20+ mpg the last 4 years. Prior to this year when the actively looked to upgrade his spot, Kork was averaging about 20 mpg for a 3 year stretch.

I think Miami's thing with these 2 would have been "these guys don't have it, let's see what someone else can give us."

The more interesting question to me is: who are the guys that didn't get an opportunity that could have contributed?