2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Mik317]

but not being able to really play next to Maxey longterm does hurt him

If he's good, he's a tradable piece. Teams are looking for more than just picks in a trade these days. We haven't had a player anyone gives a damn about other than Maxey, who was too good to trade.

yeah but then if he's good I am going to overrate him and not want to trade him lol.

[Stanford]

but not being able to really play next to Maxey longterm does hurt him

If he's good, he's a tradable piece. Teams are looking for more than just picks in a trade these days. We haven't had a player anyone gives a damn about other than Maxey, who was too good to trade.

yeah but then if he's good I am going to overrate him and not want to trade him lol.

Truue

[Negrodamus]

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Wow, so this is real. Is he bombing interviews? He’s the most incendiary player in this draft. If you can find tune that and make him consistent, he’s the best player in the draft.

[mjkvol]

Fit goes out the window if a kid like Dillingham is there at #16. Definitely among the group of players in this draft who will make an immediate impact.

[Mik317]

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Wow, so this is real. Is he bombing interviews? He’s the most incendiary player in this draft. If you can find tune that and make him consistent, he’s the best player in the draft.

that size is a real issue and he may not have the playmaking chops to make up for that and thus HAS to be a top tier scorer.. is my guess

Detroit and the Spurs should still take him tho lol. They have Cade (who I think is a bit overrated but eh) and the Spurs have Wemby to play clean up. The Hornets also could play him next to LaMelo.

I get it in a vacuum but in this draft he is one of the few guys with all star potential even if he makes team building a bit more narrow due to his physical downsides.

again tho this feels like one of those pre draft attempts by an agent to get his client to certain teams.

[76ciology]

Why would you waste a top 10 pick on a guard who can’t shoot and is not a scorer with Stephon Castle?

Same reason Orlando did it with Anthony Black last year.

Sometimes you just roll the dice on a big, athletic, young guy with basketball IQ and passing ability and hope for exponential growth once he gets NBA coaching and development.

But you need to be more detailed and granular in your analysis.

How many times has a guard who can’t shoot and isn’t a scorer become an All-Star point guard?

Additionally, I question how he can be considered to have good basketball IQ when he’s averaging only 2.9 assists per game and 0.8 steals per game. These stats are usually indicators of a player’s ability to read and react to actions on the court.

[76ciology]

Maxey is 6’3” with 6’6” wingspan.
Rob Dilingham is 6’1” with 6’3” wingspan.

[Stanford]

Dillingham has the best Youtube of all of these guys.

[76ciology]

Dillingham has the best Youtube of all of these guys.

Watch on YouTube

[Negrodamus]

If size is the issue, I don’t really understand how Reed Sheppard is still in the discussion for top ten while Rob is allegedly free falling. Rob has the better star potential of the two.

[Kobblehead]

But you need to be more detailed and granular in your analysis.

How many times has a guard who can’t shoot and isn’t a scorer become an All-Star point guard?

Additionally, I question how he can be considered to have good basketball IQ when he’s averaging only 2.9 assists per game and 0.8 steals per game. These stats are usually indicators of a player’s ability to read and react to actions on the court.

Not always. There were no statistical indicators of success with Jaylen Brown coming out of Cal. Fastforward and now he's a complete basketball player that just won Finals MVP.

Sometimes, you just take the big, strong, fast, young guy and develop him.

[Negrodamus]

Not to do the “player du jour” thing after a player wins it all, but Ron Holland is the Jaylen Brown type player of the draft.

[Mik317]

If size is the issue, I don’t really understand how Reed Sheppard is still in the discussion for top ten while Rob is allegedly free falling. Rob has the better star potential of the two.

Reed's defensive stats makes it an easier idea that he won't be total food on the defensive end is my guess. Plus his off ball ability also helps.

Reed always had stinkers every time I watched lol (I am sorry) so idk

[Kobblehead]

Not to do the “player du jour” thing after a player wins it all, but Ron Holland is the Jaylen Brown type player of the draft.

I was just thinking that.

He's huge, athletic af, and a great scorer/passer.

Why wouldn't teams be chomping at the bits to get him in their program to develop?

[Mik317]

thats the thing...we kinda blow at developing lol.

Biid and Maxey did a lot of their development outside the org it feels like

[Negrodamus]

If size is the issue, I don’t really understand how Reed Sheppard is still in the discussion for top ten while Rob is allegedly free falling. Rob has the better star potential of the two.

Reed's defensive stats makes it an easier idea that he won't be total food on the defensive end is my guess. Plus his off ball ability also helps.

Reed always had stinkers every time I watched lol (I am sorry) so idk

Yea, his stats are otherworldly so I definitely get it. His offensive game doesn’t have much juice though; will be a nice distributing guard who will hit C&S 3s at a ridiculous level. I don’t know what all star you can project him to, however. Dillingham at least got his points with his own creativity, otoh, which is more in line with all stars. Their size really makes it hard to completely fall in love with them, but Rob is the more alluring of the two in terms of draft, even though he could just be a microwave scorer his whole career.

[Kobblehead]

I can't get jiggy with Rob Dillingham.

The hell would we do with a 160 pound guard?

[Stanford]

I can't get jiggy with Rob Dillingham.

The hell would we do with a 160 pound guard?

Pump and dump

[Kobblehead]

thats the thing...we kinda blow at developing lol.

Biid and Maxey did a lot of their development outside the org it feels like

I think dudes who want to develop will work towards getting better.

The way I see it, we've just done a really bad job of identifying people who will work towards getting better.

Simmons, Fultz, Thybulle, Springer. All lazy players that didn't work to get better.

[Kobblehead]

BTW, Jerami Grant is another guy with absolutely no statistical indicators that he was going to be any good.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jerami-grant-1.html

Just a big, athletic kid who had the right head on his shoulders to work hard. Who would ever have thought that ^ that guy would average over 2 made threes a game with 37% shooting and 80% free throw percentages over the last 4 seasons?