Where is Bob Covington?

[76ciology]

Will you trade star wing who got questionable background and questionable health (cough.. kawhi) for a 10th pick and a FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE WING who can shoot 3? Hmm...

[XDevilBoiX]

Will you trade star wing who got questionable background and questionable health (cough.. kawhi) for a 10th pick and a FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE WING who can shoot 3? Hmm...

If I want to win Championships then yes, I will take that chance. If I want to be just good and make the playoffs then no. We did take a chance on Embiid and his injuries at the draft, Roco won’t be a difference maker in big games.

[TTP]

At least in terms of his shooting, he's probably no less consistent than other high volume ~37% three point shooters in the league. Guys like Wes Matthews, Trevor Ariza, CJ Miles, etc. So "more consistent" really means just being a better shooter, i.e. above 40%. Can he become a better shooter? Maybe. As the team gets better it will only help him get more open looks.

I look at consistency for him is making shots when it matters most. Too many times we see him struggle when we need him to step up then only see him make shots when the game is already decided. Wasn’t just the playoffs that he sucked, it was the whole year of inconsistency.

THIS exactly. He makes shots when it really doesn't matter. Need a clutch shot or a clutch play in crunch time ? Look elsewhere.
How many times have we seen him make dumb plays late in games ?
He's a good player...but it would not be hard to find someone better.

During our January run last year he had plenty of clutch plays. The game winning inbounds oop vs Minn. The two 3s at the end including the game winner vs Portland. The lock down D and block vs Lowry.

We haven’t had as many memorable close wins this year because we won so many games and many were over before the end. He had the go ahead 3 vs Brooklyn though. He’s also just not getting the ball down the stretch as much over Embiid, Simmons, or Redick.

[ivysixer2000]

Will you trade star wing who got questionable background and questionable health (cough.. kawhi) for a 10th pick and a FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE WING who can shoot 3? Hmm...

If I want to win Championships then yes, I will take that chance. If I want to be just good and make the playoffs then no. We did take a chance on Embiid and his injuries at the draft, Roco won’t be a difference maker in big games.

If we got Bron, I would definitely trade Roco for Kawhi, no question at all.

If we don't get Bron or PG, it becomes more difficult cause of Kawhi being a free agent next summer. I would like to wait til next summer to have Kawhi choose to come here in that event, but my gut says he would go to the Lakers and our only chance at him would be a trade to try to get him to sign a contract here before he becomes a free agent.

Either way, if we trade for Kawhi, we better know if he will sign a long term contract and not do a Thunder move with PG.

[76ciology]

I’d trade Roco for Kawhi. With or without Bron.

My principle is simple. All in for top tier talent/asset, go cheap on others.

[ivysixer2000]

I’d trade Roco for Kawhi. With or without Bron.

My principle is simple. All in for top tier talent/asset, go cheap on others.

So you trade Roco, pick, Saric, get Kawhi for a season rental and he walks. Then you will look like an idiot.

Granted I'm reconsidering whether we should just try it and see cause I'm scared of ending up with nothing next summer, but we do have to consider the assets we would lose in the deal if he walked. That deal, and basically having nothing to show for it next summer would really suck so the Bron part makes a huge difference.

[Ericb5]

Will you trade star wing who got questionable background and questionable health (cough.. kawhi) for a 10th pick and a FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE WING who can shoot 3? Hmm...

Yes.


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[USWAY]

I’d trade Roco for Kawhi. With or without Bron.

My principle is simple. All in for top tier talent/asset, go cheap on others.

So you trade Roco, pick, Saric, get Kawhi for a season rental and he walks. Then you will look like an idiot.

Granted I'm reconsidering whether we should just try it and see cause I'm scared of ending up with nothing next summer, but we do have to consider the assets we would lose in the deal if he walked. That deal, and basically having nothing to show for it next summer would really suck so the Bron part makes a huge difference.

Would we have the ability to extend him if he was traded here? I'd really want a commitment if we could

[HartfordWhalers]

I’d trade Roco for Kawhi. With or without Bron.

My principle is simple. All in for top tier talent/asset, go cheap on others.

So you trade Roco, pick, Saric, get Kawhi for a season rental and he walks. Then you will look like an idiot.

Granted I'm reconsidering whether we should just try it and see cause I'm scared of ending up with nothing next summer, but we do have to consider the assets we would lose in the deal if he walked. That deal, and basically having nothing to show for it next summer would really suck so the Bron part makes a huge difference.

Would we have the ability to extend him if he was traded here? I'd really want a commitment if we could

Ability?
Technically Yes.
Practically No.

Extending (ignoring the supermax that is only with SAS) means way less money. So he would have to want to stay in Philly so much he takes less money to extend early. Or be so injured that he does.

[76ciology]

I’d trade Roco for Kawhi. With or without Bron.

My principle is simple. All in for top tier talent/asset, go cheap on others.

So you trade Roco, pick, Saric, get Kawhi for a season rental and he walks. Then you will look like an idiot.

Granted I'm reconsidering whether we should just try it and see cause I'm scared of ending up with nothing next summer, but we do have to consider the assets we would lose in the deal if he walked. That deal, and basically having nothing to show for it next summer would really suck so the Bron part makes a huge difference.

Yes. I’m a go big or go home guy.

You trade for Kawhi then you worry about retaining him. Than you dont trade for Kawhi and he goes to a contender then you end with no one.

We are not Minnesota or a small market team. We are one of the most sought after FA destination. I wouldnt worry about retaining him.

[gdog2004]

Will you trade star wing who got questionable background and questionable health (cough.. kawhi) for a 10th pick and a FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE WING who can shoot 3? Hmm...

In a heartbeat.

[gdog2004]

I’d trade Roco for Kawhi. With or without Bron.

My principle is simple. All in for top tier talent/asset, go cheap on others.

Agree. If you have Kawhi/Ben Embiid...and possibly Bron...no one else matters.
You can sign 3rd tier guys and let them just play off of the greatness of the others.
Guys will come here to play for cheap just for a chance at a ring. Everyone on this team besides
Ben and Joel is expendable in pursuit of another star(or two).

[76ciology]

I’d trade Roco for Kawhi. With or without Bron.

My principle is simple. All in for top tier talent/asset, go cheap on others.

Agree. If you have Kawhi/Ben Embiid...and possibly Bron...no one else matters.
You can sign 3rd tier guys and let them just play off of the greatness of the others.
Guys will come here to play for cheap just for a chance at a ring. Everyone on this team besides
Ben and Joel is expendable in pursuit of another star(or two).

Yup.

You got to take risks. Nobody is going to bent over and give you their star. Kawhi is a risk worth taking.

[Sixers2125]

Will you trade star wing who got questionable background and questionable health (cough.. kawhi) for a 10th pick and a FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE WING who can shoot 3? Hmm...

Let's be honest here, Cov is not actually a first team all defense calibur defender. Let's sell high while the illusion is out there that he is an elite defender.

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[gdog2004]

I look at consistency for him is making shots when it matters most. Too many times we see him struggle when we need him to step up then only see him make shots when the game is already decided. Wasn’t just the playoffs that he sucked, it was the whole year of inconsistency.

THIS exactly. He makes shots when it really doesn't matter. Need a clutch shot or a clutch play in crunch time ? Look elsewhere.
How many times have we seen him make dumb plays late in games ?
He's a good player...but it would not be hard to find someone better.

During our January run last year he had plenty of clutch plays. The game winning inbounds oop vs Minn. The two 3s at the end including the game winner vs Portland. The lock down D and block vs Lowry.

We haven’t had as many memorable close wins this year because we won so many games and many were over before the end. He had the go ahead 3 vs Brooklyn though. He’s also just not getting the ball down the stretch as much over Embiid, Simmons, or Redick.

Covington should never get the ball over those guys at end of games. He cant create his own shot and cant be relied upon to make a shot, even a open one. He has made a ton of impossibly obtuse plays at the end of games.

[Sixerscan]

THIS exactly. He makes shots when it really doesn't matter. Need a clutch shot or a clutch play in crunch time ? Look elsewhere.
How many times have we seen him make dumb plays late in games ?
He's a good player...but it would not be hard to find someone better.

During our January run last year he had plenty of clutch plays. The game winning inbounds oop vs Minn. The two 3s at the end including the game winner vs Portland. The lock down D and block vs Lowry.

We haven’t had as many memorable close wins this year because we won so many games and many were over before the end. He had the go ahead 3 vs Brooklyn though. He’s also just not getting the ball down the stretch as much over Embiid, Simmons, or Redick.

Covington should never get the ball over those guys at end of games. He cant create his own shot and cant be relied upon to make a shot, even a open one. He has made a ton of impossibly obtuse plays at the end of games.

Yeah like Embiid Simmons and Redick never made dumb decisions at the ends of games.

Hate hate hate.

[gdog2004]

During our January run last year he had plenty of clutch plays. The game winning inbounds oop vs Minn. The two 3s at the end including the game winner vs Portland. The lock down D and block vs Lowry.

We haven’t had as many memorable close wins this year because we won so many games and many were over before the end. He had the go ahead 3 vs Brooklyn though. He’s also just not getting the ball down the stretch as much over Embiid, Simmons, or Redick.

Covington should never get the ball over those guys at end of games. He cant create his own shot and cant be relied upon to make a shot, even a open one. He has made a ton of impossibly obtuse plays at the end of games.

Yeah like Embiid Simmons and Redick never made dumb decisions at the ends of games.

Hate hate hate.

I just want better players on the team. As a fan you should too. I don't become personally attached to players.
I really liked Okafor's skillset, but I recognize hes a dog who lacks the motivation to be a good player.
Covington is good, but for this team they need a better player than him.

[Mikepsu12]

THIS exactly. He makes shots when it really doesn't matter. Need a clutch shot or a clutch play in crunch time ? Look elsewhere.
How many times have we seen him make dumb plays late in games ?
He's a good player...but it would not be hard to find someone better.

During our January run last year he had plenty of clutch plays. The game winning inbounds oop vs Minn. The two 3s at the end including the game winner vs Portland. The lock down D and block vs Lowry.

We haven’t had as many memorable close wins this year because we won so many games and many were over before the end. He had the go ahead 3 vs Brooklyn though. He’s also just not getting the ball down the stretch as much over Embiid, Simmons, or Redick.

Covington should never get the ball over those guys at end of games. He cant create his own shot and cant be relied upon to make a shot, even a open one. He has made a ton of impossibly obtuse plays at the end of games.

...You say that Cov doesn't make clutch plays but then you just said that his job isn't to have the ball at end of games. Bit of a contradiction?

Covington haters really grasping at straws lately.

[Sixerscan]

Covington should never get the ball over those guys at end of games. He cant create his own shot and cant be relied upon to make a shot, even a open one. He has made a ton of impossibly obtuse plays at the end of games.

Yeah like Embiid Simmons and Redick never made dumb decisions at the ends of games.

Hate hate hate.

I just want better players on the team. As a fan you should too. I don't become personally attached to players.
I really liked Okafor's skillset, but I recognize hes a dog who lacks the motivation to be a good player.
Covington is good, but for this team they need a better player than him.

I want better players on the team. You specifically seem to want a better player than Covington. All this stuff you're complaining about Covington not doing the rest of the roster is mostly also not doing.

I'm all for improving the team I'm just not sure why you're singling out Covington as the one that has to go as opposed to (insert one of 10 guys on last year's roster worse at basketball than Covington)

I'm fine with trading him if it makes sense it just sort of seems like you think it should be a priority to do so.

If I say something positive about Justin Anderson are you going to point out he's not Kawhi? Just seems like hate, maybe I'm getting the wrong impression.

[TTP]

THIS exactly. He makes shots when it really doesn't matter. Need a clutch shot or a clutch play in crunch time ? Look elsewhere.
How many times have we seen him make dumb plays late in games ?
He's a good player...but it would not be hard to find someone better.

During our January run last year he had plenty of clutch plays. The game winning inbounds oop vs Minn. The two 3s at the end including the game winner vs Portland. The lock down D and block vs Lowry.

We haven’t had as many memorable close wins this year because we won so many games and many were over before the end. He had the go ahead 3 vs Brooklyn though. He’s also just not getting the ball down the stretch as much over Embiid, Simmons, or Redick.

Covington should never get the ball over those guys at end of games. He cant create his own shot and cant be relied upon to make a shot, even a open one. He has made a ton of impossibly obtuse plays at the end of games.

You realize that if Covington never gets the ball end of game and the defense knows this, they can massively exploit us, which reduces the effectiveness of everyone else. Terrible strategy.

Where's the evidence that Covington can't be relied on to make an open shot? He shot well from deep last season.

Everyone on our team made blunders end of game throughout the season and playoffs.