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2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#861 » by The Master » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:49 am

Pistons 34-41: Wizards, Knicks, Nets, Sixers, Mavs, Memphis, Raptors, Bulls (1 b2b)
Hornets 34-41: Cavs, Wizards, Sixers, Bulls, Magic, Pacers, Pacers
Lakers 32-41: Mavs, Bucks, Kings, Jazz, Spurs, Wolves, Jazz, Rockets, Clippers

Lakers are two wins behind Hornets, without Thomas, Hart and Ingram (he may be back, but their bench still sucks), and with the worst schedule remaining, so it seems there's high probability Sixers will be 10th in a lottery. If Hornets win two games with tankers, Lakers will need to be 5-4 in these matches to move ahead of them in standings and 4-5 to be tied. There's no way they can end ahead of Pistons considering how easy their schedule is.

And it's quite obvious that Sixers will look for most NBA ready guard/small forward, and top10 pick gives an opportunity to select one of Bridges "brothers". :) I wouldn't be suprised if Colangelo decides to give 10th and 23-24th (I think the second pick will be in this range considering 48-50W at the end of a season) for 8th and select Mikal, he's a perfect fit for Sixers. Miles isn't bad either, with his solid shooting and off-ball skills he will be very solid 20-25mpg addition from bench.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#862 » by Wilfried » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:01 am

The Master wrote:And it's quite obvious that Sixers will look for most NBA ready guard/small forward, and top10 pick gives an opportunity to select one of Bridges "brothers". :) I wouldn't be suprised if Colangelo decides to give 10th and 23-24th (I think the second pick will be in this range considering 48-50W at the end of a season) for 8th and select Mikal, he's a perfect fit for Sixers. Miles isn't bad either, with his solid shooting and off-ball skills he will be very solid 20-25mpg addition from bench.


I'm also on the Mikal Bridges' bandwagon. He can step in the role of Justin Anderson without any problem and can become Covington's successor in a couple of seasons.

I would add TLC and/or Holmes or a secound round pick to move up to 7 or 8, where he should be picked.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#863 » by 76ciology » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:21 am

The Master wrote:Pistons 34-41: Wizards, Knicks, Nets, Sixers, Mavs, Memphis, Raptors, Bulls (1 b2b)
Hornets 34-41: Cavs, Wizards, Sixers, Bulls, Magic, Pacers, Pacers
Lakers 32-41: Mavs, Bucks, Kings, Jazz, Spurs, Wolves, Jazz, Rockets, Clippers

Lakers are two wins behind Hornets, without Thomas, Hart and Ingram (he may be back, but their bench still sucks), and with the worst schedule remaining, so it seems there's high probability Sixers will be 10th in a lottery. If Hornets win two games with tankers, Lakers will need to be 5-4 in these matches to move ahead of them in standings and 4-5 to be tied. There's no way they can end ahead of Pistons considering how easy their schedule is.

And it's quite obvious that Sixers will look for most NBA ready guard/small forward, and top10 pick gives an opportunity to select one of Bridges "brothers". :) I wouldn't be suprised if Colangelo decides to give 10th and 23-24th (I think the second pick will be in this range considering 48-50W at the end of a season) for 8th and select Mikal, he's a perfect fit for Sixers. Miles isn't bad either, with his solid shooting and off-ball skills he will be very solid 20-25mpg addition from bench.


Yup. Draft class sucks that to end up with either Bridges is alreAdy a good outcome
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#864 » by kriss73 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:29 am

I love Mikal and I think he is nba-ready and a fit in our system....but I also realize, thanks to the Fultz trade, that this could be the last time we hit the Lottery.

So I'd like to go for the fences and to pick the BPA regardless the position or the readiness.
Someone young, raw but with potential such as Shai or Zhaire Smith or Knox or J.Porter or Walker.

If everyone stays healthy this could be the last time in a while that we go into the lottery so a high-risk high-reward pick makes a ton of sense imho.

The sure thing, shooter or 3&D guy could come from free agency.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#865 » by Kolkmania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:21 pm

What a massive night, LAL 2 games behind both DET and CHA.

10th pick could be huge. Takes just a couple of teams who fall in love with Wendell Carter, Miles Bridges or Collin Sexton to have Michael Porter jr. or Trae Young becoming available.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#866 » by Wilfried » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:46 am

kriss73 wrote:I love Mikal and I think he is nba-ready and a fit in our system....but I also realize, thanks to the Fultz trade, that this could be the last time we hit the Lottery.

So I'd like to go for the fences and to pick the BPA regardless the position or the readiness.
Someone young, raw but with potential such as Shai or Zhaire Smith or Knox or J.Porter or Walker.

If everyone stays healthy this could be the last time in a while that we go into the lottery so a high-risk high-reward pick makes a ton of sense imho.

The sure thing, shooter or 3&D guy could come from free agency.
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I'm with you.

Give me Jontay Porter, because of age and potential, but also because of insurrancy for Joel.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#867 » by LakersSoul » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:05 am

Kolkmania wrote:What a massive night, LAL 2 games behind both DET and CHA.

10th pick could be huge. Takes just a couple of teams who fall in love with Wendell Carter, Miles Bridges or Collin Sexton to have Michael Porter jr. or Trae Young becoming available.


Wendell Carter will go top 10. I cannot see too many teams from #6-10 pass on 6'10" PF that can stretch the floor at 41% rate and is a good FT shooter and registers more than 2 blocks per game on 26+ minutes.

ON Trae Young, I just cannot see the Cavs pass on him unless JJJ or Doncic fall to them which will make it a tough choice. I still think with Irving gone, the Cavs go after another pg in Young.

Sexton and Bridges will fall but who knows with Sacramento picking at #6 and NY at #9. Kings are dumb enough to package #6 for Sun's (#15, 16, 31 picks) or Clippers (#12, 13 and future 2nd round picks) or reach for someone like Musa.

If you guys somehow steal either Porter or Young this year, wow, just wow!!

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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#868 » by Kolkmania » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:25 am

LakersSoul wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:What a massive night, LAL 2 games behind both DET and CHA.

10th pick could be huge. Takes just a couple of teams who fall in love with Wendell Carter, Miles Bridges or Collin Sexton to have Michael Porter jr. or Trae Young becoming available.


Wendell Carter will go top 10. I cannot see too many teams from #6-10 pass on 6'10" PF that can stretch the floor at 41% rate and is a good FT shooter and registers more than 2 blocks per game on 26+ minutes.

ON Trae Young, I just cannot see the Cavs pass on him unless JJJ or Doncic fall to them which will make it a tough choice. I still think with Irving gone, the Cavs go after another pg in Young.

Sexton and Bridges will fall but who knows with Sacramento picking at #6 and NY at #9. Kings are dumb enough to package #6 for Sun's (#15, 16, 31 picks) or Clippers (#12, 13 and future 2nd round picks) or reach for someone like Musa.

If you guys somehow steal either Porter or Young this year, wow, just wow!!


It's impossible to predict, but at #10 the odds are just so much better of someone with massive potential falling to us than at #12.

The work ethic of Collin Sexton and Miles Bridges might be a deciding factors for some teams, especially after Donovan Mitchell last year.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#869 » by The Master » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:26 am

kriss73 wrote:So I'd like to go for the fences and to pick the BPA regardless the position or the readiness.
Someone young, raw but with potential such as Shai or Zhaire Smith or Knox or J.Porter or Walker.

SGA and Zhaire are both bad fit for Sixers, I don't see combo guard like Lonnie Walker as a good fit neither. Knox is solid prospect but why do you assume he's better prospect than Miles Bridges? I like Miles much more.

And I don't think Young, Porter or Carter will fall to 10th pick to be honest.

Sixers are in a situation where they have strong core (Simmons, Fultz, Saric, Embiid, Covington, possibly strong FA). Yeah, it's a good idea to select high risk-high reward guy, but don't forget that this player needs to fit in a roster well in a future to be valuable asset.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#870 » by kriss73 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:57 am

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kriss73 wrote:So I'd like to go for the fences and to pick the BPA regardless the position or the readiness.
Someone young, raw but with potential such as Shai or Zhaire Smith or Knox or J.Porter or Walker.

SGA and Zhaire are both bad fit for Sixers, I don't see combo guard like Lonnie Walker as a good fit neither. Knox is solid prospect but why do you assume he's better prospect than Miles Bridges? I like Miles much more.

And I don't think Young, Porter or Carter will fall to 10th pick to be honest.

Sixers are in a situation where they have strong core (Simmons, Fultz, Saric, Embiid, Covington, possibly strong FA). Yeah, it's a good idea to select high risk-high reward guy, but don't forget that this player needs to fit in a roster well in a future to be valuable asset.


I disagree.

The basic idea here is that we could not have a starter spot for any draftee in the 2018-2019 season, but we're in the Lottery where it's supposed to be a lot fo talent.
So you have to think forward: in two or three years you're could be forced to trade Cov or Saric for cap purposes. Or Embiid could be hurt. Or Fultz could turn out an average player. Or you simply will need and high end sixth man.

So the idea is: let's take the BPA, if raw and young it is even better.
Develop him in the next 2 years (as CJ McCollum or as Oubre) and then worry about the fit.

In my view, if you're in the Lottery and you have little talent on your roster, you have to pick the BPA regardless the fit.
If you have talent and you need a specific position to complete your starting-5, then you have to consider fit too.
But if you have a complete starting 5 (or you think you have a complete one), then you have to look at the youngest BPA imho.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#871 » by The Master » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:55 am

SGA will never be able to play with Simmons and Fultz together. He's non-shooting passing first PG, that's terrible fit for Simmons.

If Embiid stays healthy, Porter will never be a starter for this team. If you're assuming Embiid won't stay healthy...

If Fultz develops nicely, Walker will be third guard in a team behind Simmons and Fultz and play like whaat, 20 minutes a game?

Zhaire will be a good fit for Sixers only if he develops into very good shooter. Right now he's shooting 0.5 3pts a game in college. And even if he develops that way it's still hard to tell if he can become better prospect than Mikal or Miles Bridges.

Knox is very solid prospect but I don't think he's in different tier in terms of potential than Miles Bridges.

BPA selection is a good concept but it doesn't make any sense to select players who are not a good fit for our most talented players. Nothing against SGA, Walker or Smith - they're very solid prospects - but first of all, they're not a good fit for Simmons and Fultz, and secondly - to develop your young players well you have to give him some minutes. Ad that would be a huge problem for guys like SGA or Zhaire.

So your arguments would be valuable if we've been discussing a question whether Sixers should select Trae Young or Mikal Bridges. In this case I would probably agree with you that we should go BPA no matter what, and than look on a fit.

But Mikal, Miles, SGA, Zhaire, Knox, Walker are in similiar tier potential-wise, and both Bridges are much better fit than guys you mentioned and much more NBA ready already. You suggest that we should keep in mind that there are many uncertainties with Fultz or Embiid so we should ignore a fit right now. But that's leading us to a situation where we can't find a best case scenario - in your concept, we will have Fultz, Embiid, Simmons and f.e. Jontay playing 15mpg, or we will have injured Embiid and Jontay as a starter. We will have Fultz as 20-5-5 combo guard and Lonnie Walker as his backup, or we will have wasted no 1 pick and Lonnie in Fultz's role. Same with SGA.

So no matter what that leads us to a situation we don't want to be in. And keep in mind that trade value of prospects who don't play respectable minutes is very limited, so top10 pick who plays two seasons as 8-9th player of rotation despite potential is not valued as much by other GMs.

And it's all written besides a fact that Sixers have good chances to sign LeBron, Kawhi or Middleton and Kemba in 2019.

In my opinion, unless we have a chance to select Porter Jr, Carter or Young, we should make everything possible to take one of Bridges. Best fit, top10 potential and much more NBA ready than others what's very important from playoff team's perspective.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#872 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:29 pm

I think Mikal with #6, Allen (or Hutchinson) with your late first, and then Graham or Brunson with a second round pick (or your late first round pick / trying to trade back in) would be an absolute home run of a draft. You'd be adding guys who can play off ball and score in a variety of ways, an off the bench scorer, and then a steady backup PG who can start / play next to Simmons easily.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#873 » by sixers78 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:06 am

Unless the pick is 1, trade the Lakers pick if it conveys along with our own pick and a player (Holmes?). Then see what you can get in return for that package. Be it player or move up in draft.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#874 » by Kobblehead » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:21 am

I think Jaren Jackson and Shai are the two can't miss players in the Top 10. Trade up for Jaren or pray that Shai is on the board with the Lakers pick.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#875 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:32 am

Kobblehead wrote:I think Jaren Jackson and Shai are the two can't miss players in the Top 10. Trade up for Jaren or pray that Shai is on the board with the Lakers pick.


Even if we did get Shai, how much time would he really get next season? He would be playing behind Ben and Markelle. I’m not sure Fultz even starts next season. They may go ahead with JJ again at the SG to start with Ben. Shai may not even get 6 minutes.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#876 » by Negrodamus » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:47 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I think Jaren Jackson and Shai are the two can't miss players in the Top 10. Trade up for Jaren or pray that Shai is on the board with the Lakers pick.


Even if we did get Shai, how much time would he really get next season? He would be playing behind Ben and Markelle. I’m not sure Fultz even starts next season. They may go ahead with JJ again at the SG to start with Ben. Shai may not even get 6 minutes.


He’s 19 and still needs to fill out. Why does he need to play a lot next year? Give him time to develop. We already have a great team.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#877 » by eagereyez » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:33 pm

Mikal Bridges is still my top pick at #10. We should continue to stack defense, length, and shooting.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#878 » by plead.5th » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:18 pm

Mikal Bridges is perfect. Plays multiple positions. 3 & D. Mom works for the Sixers. Kid trusted the process at Nova and will be in no way be a bad locker room guy while developing or coming off the bench. I think it’s a no brainer.

Side note- I think it’s equally important to keep the 3’shooters we have now. Covington can be moved.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#879 » by Hipster Doofus » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:42 pm

Can someone please summarize where we stand for the 2018 NBA Draft?

Do we have our own first round pick? Do we get the Lakers pick under some restrictions? Any second-rounders? Which other team should we root for to win/lose based on how it affects our draft picks?

Thanks lil guys.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#880 » by Sixerscan » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:51 pm

Canadian6ersFan wrote:Can someone please summarize where we stand for the 2018 NBA Draft?

Do we have our own first round pick? Do we get the Lakers pick under some restrictions? Any second-rounders? Which other team should we root for to win/lose based on how it affects our draft picks?

Thanks lil guys.

First post of the thread. No Okc pick though

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