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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#861 » by Ericb5 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 am

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76ciology wrote:Biid's durability has been a very pleasant surprise


*knocks on wood*

He hits the deck a lot still, but his landings on his feet haven’t been so awkward this year so far.


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I think there was one dunk where he landed awkwardly this year, forgot which game

Anyway, looks like they tweaked his game and Im ok with it. I just hope he be careful and be a lot less reckless for these reg season games


He had one dunk a few games ago where he landed up his left leg while it was bent and it seemed unsteady for a second, but generally his base has been much better so far this year.

I don’t think all of the dives on the floor are likely to hurt him. I mean he might hurt something, but he isn’t likely to get a lower body injury that way. It’s the awkward landings on his feet, or rolled ankles that make me nervous.

Remember how Randall Cunningham used to always jump up in the air to protect his knees? That always worked for him. His first major knee injury was when he was standing in the pocket and someone dove into his legs.


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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#862 » by Sasashi » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:17 am

Embiid is getting more and more frustrated with the minutes restriction. You can tell this week when he first said , "everyone gotta calm down, I'm not made of glass" and today's proclamation of " I'm playing and I don't care what THEY say".

He looked visibly pissed off when he was taken out today....especially the time when he was taken off with 40 seconds left in the 3rd. Something to watch....

But his game tonight was good , he is really starting to look to gain position down low and starting to reduce the top of the key shenanigans. And the Rockets sometimes flatly refused to go to the rim when he's out there. I mean, there was clear hesitation to attack the basket from Rockets ball handlers when Embiid was guarding the rim.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#863 » by Cheatergriffin » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:20 am

Sasashi wrote:Embiid is getting more and more frustrated with the minutes restriction. You can tell this week when he first said , "everyone gotta calm down, I'm not made of glass" and today's proclamation of " I'm playing and I don't care what THEY say".

He looked visibly pissed off when he was taken out today....especially the time when he was taken off with 40 seconds left in the 3rd. Something to watch....

But his game tonight was good , he is really starting to look to gain position down low and starting to reduce the top of the key shenanigans. And the Rockets sometimes flatly refused to go to the rim when he's out there. I mean, there was clear hesitation to attack the basket from Rockets ball handlers when Embiid was guarding the rim.


Pretty sure he picked up his 4th foul that was why he was taken out.

He’s a competitor which is awesome and wants to be out there. Love having guys like that ecspecially a star player who just got a new contract and wants to never leave the court, essentially wanting to prove it.

I think it is a pride thing as we know he’s actively involved in social media and obviously hears and sees the injury jokes and greg oden comparisons. I honestly think he knows how good he is and just wants to shut people up who doubt him, but at the same time prove it to himself as well and see his potential flourish into reality.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#864 » by PhilasFinest » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:50 am

Embiid will start to settle down as he gets more comfortable and gets more game reps against NBA defenders.

His mid range jumper is money. I know he is supposedly a big film guy in terms of studying other players, so maybe someone should show him some KG tape. They certainly have some similarities IMO.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#865 » by Ericb5 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:27 am

Sasashi wrote:Embiid is getting more and more frustrated with the minutes restriction. You can tell this week when he first said , "everyone gotta calm down, I'm not made of glass" and today's proclamation of " I'm playing and I don't care what THEY say".

He looked visibly pissed off when he was taken out today....especially the time when he was taken off with 40 seconds left in the 3rd. Something to watch....

But his game tonight was good , he is really starting to look to gain position down low and starting to reduce the top of the key shenanigans. And the Rockets sometimes flatly refused to go to the rim when he's out there. I mean, there was clear hesitation to attack the basket from Rockets ball handlers when Embiid was guarding the rim.


The minutes restriction hasn’t been an issue recently, and in this game in particular, he was in foul trouble through out.

I think that they would play him for 32 minutes in any of these games if it was in the flow of the game, he wasn’t in foul trouble, and he wasn’t fatigued.


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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#866 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:47 pm

It's hard to find flaws in his game but two things have sort of stood out early. One is he does some sort of weird 3PT pump fake and drive to the basket. Someone needs to remind him he's not a guard. Shoot the three or pass the ball

Two, he needs to get the ball down low. He has a tremendous mid range game that is both a blessing and curse because too often he gets comfortable settling for the jumpshot rather then backing his man down in the post. It also hurts from a foul perspective.

He is a good foul shooter. He should be initiating contact and getting to the line as much as he can. He's only averaging 5.2 FT a game.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#867 » by GoSixersBro » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:06 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:It's hard to find flaws in his game but two things have sort of stood out early. One is he does some sort of weird 3PT pump fake and drive to the basket. Someone needs to remind him he's not a guard. Shoot the three or pass the ball

Two, he needs to get the ball down low. He has a tremendous mid range game that is both a blessing and curse because too often he gets comfortable settling for the jumpshot rather then backing his man down in the post. It also hurts from a foul perspective.

He is a good foul shooter. He should be initiating contact and getting to the line as much as he can. He's only averaging 5.2 FT a game.


Why should that play be exclusive to guards?
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#868 » by agiaco » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:09 pm

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spikeslovechild wrote:It's hard to find flaws in his game but two things have sort of stood out early. One is he does some sort of weird 3PT pump fake and drive to the basket. Someone needs to remind him he's not a guard. Shoot the three or pass the ball

Two, he needs to get the ball down low. He has a tremendous mid range game that is both a blessing and curse because too often he gets comfortable settling for the jumpshot rather then backing his man down in the post. It also hurts from a foul perspective.

He is a good foul shooter. He should be initiating contact and getting to the line as much as he can. He's only averaging 5.2 FT a game.


Why should that play be exclusive to guards?


Because he's doing it all the time for little to no reason. I agree with spikes.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#869 » by GoSixersBro » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:16 pm

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spikeslovechild wrote:It's hard to find flaws in his game but two things have sort of stood out early. One is he does some sort of weird 3PT pump fake and drive to the basket. Someone needs to remind him he's not a guard. Shoot the three or pass the ball

Two, he needs to get the ball down low. He has a tremendous mid range game that is both a blessing and curse because too often he gets comfortable settling for the jumpshot rather then backing his man down in the post. It also hurts from a foul perspective.

He is a good foul shooter. He should be initiating contact and getting to the line as much as he can. He's only averaging 5.2 FT a game.


Why should that play be exclusive to guards?


Because he's doing it all the time for little to no reason. I agree with spikes.


I did not watch last night's game, so please fill me in. Did his drives to the basket not end up with him scoring?
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#870 » by Simmons25 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:32 pm

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Why should that play be exclusive to guards?


Because he's doing it all the time for little to no reason. I agree with spikes.


I did not watch last night's game, so please fill me in. Did his drives to the basket not end up with him scoring?


I only saw a couple last night and I don't think he scored with any.

Every now and then it opens up space for him to dunk it but to be honest it is not worth it from a game standpoint (its not that successful a scoring move) or a physical standpoint... because everytime he does it he falls or lands awkwardly. I'd be happy to never see him do it again. Either take the 3 or pump fake and dish the ball off.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#871 » by bball4life » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:21 pm

A far more effective play would be for Simmons and him to simply play pick and roll from the 3 point line. its almost unstoppable. They do it so rarely I just don't get it.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#872 » by agiaco » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:38 pm

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Because he's doing it all the time for little to no reason. I agree with spikes.


I did not watch last night's game, so please fill me in. Did his drives to the basket not end up with him scoring?


I only saw a couple last night and I don't think he scored with any.

Every now and then it opens up space for him to dunk it but to be honest it is not worth it from a game standpoint (its not that successful a scoring move) or a physical standpoint... because everytime he does it he falls or lands awkwardly. I'd be happy to never see him do it again. Either take the 3 or pump fake and dish the ball off.


Exactly that. What's the point of all of these pump fakes at the top of the arc when he ends up hesitating driving to the hoop and tosses it away. Jojo's already prone to lose the ball or fall down so I think for now it's best to minimize the distance he has to drive to the hoop. He's pretty much always going to be the biggest guy on court.

We need to get him close to the hoop for the easiest points or give him the short jumpers/fadeaways he is better at making. I'm fine with a trailer three or wide-open three once in a while but the pump fake's gotta go!
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#873 » by bryanwithawhy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:38 pm

bball4life wrote:A far more effective play would be for Simmons and him to simply play pick and roll from the 3 point line. its almost unstoppable. They do it so rarely I just don't get it.


Brett Brown seems to be allergic to the pick and roll when it is the most efficient form of basketball in the NBA.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#874 » by agiaco » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:40 pm

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bball4life wrote:A far more effective play would be for Simmons and him to simply play pick and roll from the 3 point line. its almost unstoppable. They do it so rarely I just don't get it.


Brett Brown seems to be allergic to the pick and roll when it is the most efficient form of basketball in the NBA.


Ben and Joel got a couple of those in the second half and some of the easiest baskets we got all game. Why we don't do that play more often is perplexing.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#875 » by Ericb5 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:59 pm

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bball4life wrote:A far more effective play would be for Simmons and him to simply play pick and roll from the 3 point line. its almost unstoppable. They do it so rarely I just don't get it.


Brett Brown seems to be allergic to the pick and roll when it is the most efficient form of basketball in the NBA.


Ben and Joel got a couple of those in the second half and some of the easiest baskets we got all game. Why we don't do that play more often is perplexing.


If it continues to be effective then we will start doing it more. I think that running the PnR with Fultz is even more of a no brainer.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#876 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:27 pm

I'd like him to feast in the post. Simmons also does a great job making the entry pass which is a unique skill.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#877 » by eyeatoma » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:18 pm

This is from rotoworld a Fantasy basketball site... It's breaking down how Embiid scores. I'd like that PnR number to go up, along with his free throw rate.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nba/75466/196/flying-over-the-atlantic
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#878 » by Simmons25 » Wed Nov 1, 2017 4:56 am

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bball4life wrote:A far more effective play would be for Simmons and him to simply play pick and roll from the 3 point line. its almost unstoppable. They do it so rarely I just don't get it.


Brett Brown seems to be allergic to the pick and roll when it is the most efficient form of basketball in the NBA.


Ben and Joel got a couple of those in the second half and some of the easiest baskets we got all game. Why we don't do that play more often is perplexing.


It will happen eventually. Have to remember we are only 7 games into Ben Simmons career running this team... and only 6 of those games were with Joel. They are probably not even 20% into their potential playing together, knowing where to stand, which spots they like to get to.

A few times Joel for instance was given the ball in the post by Ben and Ben then made a cut towards the basket just as Joel was also making a move to the basket to score. They were on a different page and what it did was drag Ben's man over with him to a spot on the court where he was standing almost next to where Joel was going and just turned around to double him and get the strip. If they knew which play was being run or what each other was doing Ben would have moved to a different part of the court and given Embiid more space to work.

That sort of stuff will happen less the more they play together... and things like pick and roll will also be used more.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#879 » by 76ciology » Wed Nov 1, 2017 6:21 am

Embiid is scoring 60TS%. Me likey
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Post#880 » by 76ciology » Wed Nov 1, 2017 7:23 am

I wouldn't mind sitting him for the Hawks game
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