Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

[FireMorey]

I didn't say he's worse I said I dislike him more than Colangelo. Major difference.

[NYSixersFan]

Man the sky is blue. Morey should just resign now then

-FireMorey

Morey should have been fired after the Harden debacle. Instead he got a contract extension.

Let's see if he can save himself in the next week.

What debacle?

Trading for that loser in the first place and what happened last off-season.

[Mik317]

I have been calling Morey washed since he got here

but until whatever he has planned for this offseason comes to happen and it sucks, I don't get the rage atm.

Some seem to be willing an awful offseason into reality so they can rage harder. If PG wants to go elsewhere thats not really a resignable offense lol. If he signs absolute ass and tries to sell it as a positive then yeah sure get mad and be sad.

We could be Chicago ffs

[Negrodamus]

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DeRozan is still the realistic guy that makes sense. Likely won't get the max, we don't have to use draft capital, his effect on offense is similar to Ingram. The only downside is his age, but he's been 70+ games per season for the last 3 years and averaged a career high 37 mpg last year. I've been watching a few of these full highlights of the Bulls and he is rarely the guy making mistakes on either end of the ball; it's generally the other younger Bulls. I also posted a video where he was clearly a great mentor to younger players. Definitely could use a leader and I'm not 100% sure Ingram falls under that title.

Draft the BPA, get DeRozan, get KCP, bring back the other guys (Oubre, Lowry, Batum) and I think we'll be in the conversation to win the East next year.

[51X3RF4N]

It sounds to me like PG didn't want to make a decision, he wanted LAC to offer the max 4 year deal, and when he realized they aren't going to offer that, he started evaluating his options.

He could certainly get a good deal in free agency, and could choose his new team (but would be limited to those teams who have cap space).

Maybe once he knew he wasn't signing a long term deal with LAC, he wanted to be fair to the organization and not walk for nothing, so he decided to opt in and look for a trade.

In this case, he can save face with the fans by at least getting some value back to the Clippers. And he can see which teams out there truly value him by what they offer. It also makes free agency easier for the teams looking to add him because now it's more about making a trade which can technically happen prior to free agency. So not only does PG have a say in where he plays (unless LAC just screws him), he also gets it done before free agency so he avoids the circus, and he allows his new team more time to plan out their next moves.

[51X3RF4N]

Another side note is the new team doesn't get in trouble for tampering.

[FireMorey]

I have been calling Morey washed since he got here

but until whatever he has planned for this offseason comes to happen and it sucks, I don't get the rage atm.

Some seem to be willing an awful offseason into reality so they can rage harder. If PG wants to go elsewhere thats not really a resignable offense lol. If he signs absolute ass and tries to sell it as a positive then yeah sure get mad and be sad.

We could be Chicago ffs

There's no rage. I said if PG goes to the Knicks he should resign and honestly, it was mainly being facetious. But it really would be an embarrassment and I just don't like the guy so I want him gone anyway. But if he loses out on PG and gets Butler that's fine.

But to your other point, one thing I don't want to hear this summer are the excuses that players didn't want to come here, so that's not Morey's fault. Those are not valid excuses. Any GM in history can use the excuse that players didn't want to come to their team and teams didn't want to trade with them. And if Morey built a better team, maybe guys who don't want to come to Philly would want to come to Philly.

NBA players generally want 3 things in free agency: 1) LA 2) Miami 3)Whatever teams they think can win a title. No players wanted to go to the Warriors until they became good. Or go to the Cavs before they got Lebron. If NBA players viewed the Sixers as a legit contender, players would want to come to Philly. If Morey can't attract players to his team, that's his own fault. He's been here 4 years, the "He was in a tough position" isn't a valid excuse anymore.

And also, he needs to know whether or not players would be willing to come here before he punts a season and constructs an entire plan to have cap space to sign players. So ultimately, his job standing should hinge entirely on what he can do this summer. At least it would in any well-run organization.

[Wilfried]

Morey should have been fired after the Harden debacle. Instead he got a contract extension.

Let's see if he can save himself in the next week.

What debacle?

Trading for that loser in the first place and what happened last off-season.

So you would have kept Ben Simmons?

Or traded him for?

[NYSixersFan]

What debacle?

Trading for that loser in the first place and what happened last off-season.

So you would have kept Ben Simmons?

Or traded him for?

Uhhh, are we having this conversation again?

I would have traded Ben for Haliburton or other options I'm sure Morey had.

[Stanford]

What debacle?

Trading for that loser in the first place and what happened last off-season.

So you would have kept Ben Simmons?

Or traded him for?

These guys will always have an out with this question because in hypotheticaland you can always get Tyrese Haliburton for Ben Simmons.

[NYSixersFan]

Trading for that loser in the first place and what happened last off-season.

So you would have kept Ben Simmons?

Or traded him for?

These guys will always have an out with this question because in hypotheticaland you can always get Tyrese Haliburton for Ben Simmons.

It's not even about Haliburton. I'm convinced Morey was trading for Harden no matter what.

[Negrodamus]

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Lmao, why even make this post. I doubt the Bulls were ever truly considering this.

[Stanford]

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Lmao, why even make this post. I doubt the Bulls were ever truly considering this.

Well now they're stuck with Zach Lavine and all they have to show for it is Josh Giddey

[ProcessDoctor]

Yea I still can’t believe that Caruso trade. Sure, he’s just a role player, but one of the best. His defensive metrics were one of the best amongst all guards.

[FireMorey]

A scenario that could happen on draft night is the Sixers have a deal on the table for Butler, but still prefer PG and have no idea what he plans to do yet. And will have to decide between just locking down Butler or risking losing both options and waiting for PG in free agency.

[youngcrev]

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Lmao, why even make this post. I doubt the Bulls were ever truly considering this.

So much waning, but I want to know what's waxing.

[MoeGreene]

Would you agree that the Sixers need a combination of 2 out of these SG SF's or else I think this team just can't compete.

Then, do they have enough money to build out a team.

Not looking great.

SG SF Priority
Mikal Bridges
Butler*
Lauri
PG
OG*

2nd Tier
Claxton - if you strike out on 1/2 SF's get a good backup big
Drummond
Beasley
Bey
Jalen Smith*
Dunn

Team Friendly Deals
Batum
Oubre


Maxey Dunn
Butler Draft Pick
OG Oubre
Smith Batum
Embiid Drummond

[mjkvol]

Mike Scotto said despite Shams' report, the Sixers still really want PG.

He also said if not him, trading for Butler or signing Anunoby are their next preferred options they could pivot to.

Said Anunoby is expected to get minimum of 35m per season.

If true, it's kinda sad PG is giving every indication he doesn't want to be here, yet Morey's still alivating at signing him like a lap dog.

Stein saying it's still very unlikely OG leaves New York.

I think it will be Butler or Ingram. The Butler path just makes rounding out the roster so difficult.

Really hoping that all these choices get taken out of Morey's hands - George and OG stay, Ingram goes to Cleveland, Lavine is traded somewhere, and Butler stays in Miami. Sign DeRozan and fill out the roster with solid role players and picks. We have a competitive team and Morey has some ammo to fine tune at the deadline. Done.

[ProcessDoctor]

Mike Scotto said despite Shams' report, the Sixers still really want PG.

He also said if not him, trading for Butler or signing Anunoby are their next preferred options they could pivot to.

Said Anunoby is expected to get minimum of 35m per season.

If true, it's kinda sad PG is giving every indication he doesn't want to be here, yet Morey's still alivating at signing him like a lap dog.

Stein saying it's still very unlikely OG leaves New York.

I think it will be Butler or Ingram. The Butler path just makes rounding out the roster so difficult.

Really hoping that all these choices get taken out of Morey's hands - George and OG stay, Ingram goes to Cleveland, Lavine is traded somewhere, and Butler stays in Miami. Sign DeRozan and fill out the roster with solid role players and picks. We have a competitive team and Morey has some ammo to fine tune at the deadline. Done.

You know I agree with you on all accounts except Ingram. I will die on this hill LOL.

[mjkvol]

If he gets traded why do I have this nagging feeling it will be the Knicks? If Morey loses the guy he wants so badly to the team that knocked his team out of the playoffs, he honestly should just resign at that point. It would be an organizational embarrassment of the highest order.

Why are you making this a referendum on Morey? Just because some media hacks say we're interested, then it's "organizational embarrassment" that a player prefers to play in a major media market like LA or NY instead of coming to Philly? How do you or I know how "badly" Morey wanted George? You're just hell bent on making your agenda of Morey being incompetent correct, and are resorting to making fact some "insider" reports from hacks being used by agents.