Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

[sixers hoops]

Plus free agents...he can't keep the cash in the mattress again next off season.

I think he'll make some offers, but if the right players aren't interested than wait another year.

[LloydFree]

You missed my point here. Playing Lin or not doesn't matter at all. The point is to gain more picks if that's what Hinkie want. And we eventually need to spend those amount of money. Its just a matter of who we would pay.

You are not getting it. Apparently, Hinkie didn't think the Houston pick was worth the 15 million dollars it would've cost. He isn't going to take on that kind of salary at the beginning of a season. He doesn't need to get to the salary floor until the deadline, when there is only 1/3rd of the season left to pay the prorated (5 million)salary.

Think of it this way. For $10 million, Hinkie could just buy a pick in the mid-20's from any team, on draft night. And he would have teams fighting to give him the pick, if he offered that amount.

So if a first round pick is that easy to acquire as you said why would Hinkie give up a quality player for it instead of just buying one on the draft night ?
It's a really weird logic here. If you think paying 15 million to a decent player for a pick is too much then paying 7.5 million for two scrubs while giving up Thad is a huge overpay seems to me.

1. The player he is giving up isn't that good.
2. The player he is giving up only has 1 year on his deal and isn't part of the teams' future.
3. The player he is giving up makes MORE than the guys he's taking back.

Minnesota is practically PAYING the 76ers 2 million to take a 1st round pick, in Hinkies eyes. The Houston pick would COST them 15 million in real money. You aren't factoring in the reality of cost. Thad Young won't win or lose anymore games for the 76ers this year than Shved or aMoute. The 76ers aren't giving up anything.

[OleSchool]

If you think paying 15 million to a decent player for a pick is too much then paying 7.5 million for two scrubs while giving up Thad is a huge overpay seems to me.

So paying the same $ for 2 players (easier to move at deadline, if needed) AND getting a higher pick in the 1st for a guy who was going to walk is a worse deal?

IMO the value seems about right, we may actually come out a little ahead in this deal.

[OleSchool]

1. The player he is giving up isn't that good.
2. The player he is giving up only has 1 year on his deal and isn't part of the teams' future.
3. The player he is giving up makes MORE than the guys he's taking back.

Minnesota is practically PAYING the 76ers 2 million to take a 1st round pick, in Hinkies eyes. The Houston pick would COST them 15 million in real money. You aren't factoring in the reality of cost. Thad Young won't win or lose anymore games for the 76ers this year than Shved or aMoute. The 76ers aren't giving up anything.

How can I And1 this 10 more times???

[freshie2]

Plus free agents...he can't keep the cash in the mattress again next off season.

I think he'll make some offers, but if the right players aren't interested than wait another year.

Agree, but a sharp shooting wing like Klay Thompson on this roster gives them a huge boost. As constructed, they will be able to compete and defend, but will struggle with scoring. Add that shooter, and the entire offense opens up. MCW/Klay/Hollis/Noel/Sims in another year would be able to compete...you have to believe Embiid is an upgrade over Sims, and they could possibly trade up on Hollis...yes, the playoffs seem far away, but I don't think 2015-16 is too early to enter the discussion.

[phifans]

You are not getting it. Apparently, Hinkie didn't think the Houston pick was worth the 15 million dollars it would've cost. He isn't going to take on that kind of salary at the beginning of a season. He doesn't need to get to the salary floor until the deadline, when there is only 1/3rd of the season left to pay the prorated (5 million)salary.

Think of it this way. For $10 million, Hinkie could just buy a pick in the mid-20's from any team, on draft night. And he would have teams fighting to give him the pick, if he offered that amount.

So if a first round pick is that easy to acquire as you said why would Hinkie give up a quality player for it instead of just buying one on the draft night ?
It's a really weird logic here. If you think paying 15 million to a decent player for a pick is too much then paying 7.5 million for two scrubs while giving up Thad is a huge overpay seems to me.

1. The player he is giving up isn't that good.
2. The player he is giving up only has 1 year on his deal and isn't part of the teams' future.
3. The player he is giving up makes MORE than the guys he's taking back.

Minnesota is practically PAYING the 76ers 2 million to take a 1st round pick, in Hinkies eyes. The Houston pick would COST them 15 million in real money. You aren't factoring in the reality of cost. Thad Young won't win or lose anymore games for the 76ers this year than Shved or aMoute. The 76ers aren't giving up anything.

I'm not sure man. You're just telling me this management are trying to save as much money as they can before considering how to improve our team. And I don't know what they are saving for when they've already been the one who's paying the least in this league.
I'm not saying this is a bad deal. I just don't think it's better than that assuming Lin deal.

[Mr Sixer]

So if a first round pick is that easy to acquire as you said why would Hinkie give up a quality player for it instead of just buying one on the draft night ?
It's a really weird logic here. If you think paying 15 million to a decent player for a pick is too much then paying 7.5 million for two scrubs while giving up Thad is a huge overpay seems to me.

1. The player he is giving up isn't that good.
2. The player he is giving up only has 1 year on his deal and isn't part of the teams' future.
3. The player he is giving up makes MORE than the guys he's taking back.

Minnesota is practically PAYING the 76ers 2 million to take a 1st round pick, in Hinkies eyes. The Houston pick would COST them 15 million in real money. You aren't factoring in the reality of cost. Thad Young won't win or lose anymore games for the 76ers this year than Shved or aMoute. The 76ers aren't giving up anything.

I'm not sure man. You're just telling me this management are trying to save as much money as they can before considering how to improve our team. And I don't know what they are saving for when they've already been the one who's paying the least in this league.
I'm not saying this is a bad deal. I just don't think it's better than that assuming Lin deal.

Well you're wrong. And that's not even factoring in that we would have had to beat the lakers deal, and on top of that the lakers probably actually wanted Lin for their team while we didn't actually, we just wanted to reap the benefits of the trade, so the lakers probably would have been willing to receive even less to take on the Lin salary.

[DavidHume]

So if a first round pick is that easy to acquire as you said why would Hinkie give up a quality player for it instead of just buying one on the draft night ?
It's a really weird logic here. If you think paying 15 million to a decent player for a pick is too much then paying 7.5 million for two scrubs while giving up Thad is a huge overpay seems to me.

1. The player he is giving up isn't that good.
2. The player he is giving up only has 1 year on his deal and isn't part of the teams' future.
3. The player he is giving up makes MORE than the guys he's taking back.

Minnesota is practically PAYING the 76ers 2 million to take a 1st round pick, in Hinkies eyes. The Houston pick would COST them 15 million in real money. You aren't factoring in the reality of cost. Thad Young won't win or lose anymore games for the 76ers this year than Shved or aMoute. The 76ers aren't giving up anything.

I'm not sure man. You're just telling me this management are trying to save as much money as they can before considering how to improve our team. And I don't know what they are saving for when they've already been the one who's paying the least in this league.
I'm not saying this is a bad deal. I just don't think it's better than that assuming Lin deal.

Let's try this another way. Please give the breakdown of the "Lin deal" that the Sixers could have made that would have landed them with the Houston pick. Please list all components of a deal that Houston would have agreed to and that they would have chosen over the LA offer.

[CoreyGallagher]

Supposedly we got Barea instead of Luc Mbah a Moute according to Windhorst...? WTF? Hopefully a mistype, if that is the case than this trade is much worse...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/503223621893226497[/tweet]
He seems to be the only one saying this though, so idk yet.

Woj refutes...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/503225646366351361[/tweet]

[Mik317]

**** deal

[phantom84]

Yep, what a crappy deal. I am disappointed in Hinkie for helping the Wolves out. It seems like Saunder just out Hinkie Hinkie.

[Sixteen]

I'm over Thad now lol. We got assets for days!

[sixers hoops]

Plus free agents...he can't keep the cash in the mattress again next off season.

I think he'll make some offers, but if the right players aren't interested than wait another year.

Agree, but a sharp shooting wing like Klay Thompson on this roster gives them a huge boost. As constructed, they will be able to compete and defend, but will struggle with scoring. Add that shooter, and the entire offense opens up. MCW/Klay/Hollis/Noel/Sims in another year would be able to compete...you have to believe Embiid is an upgrade over Sims, and they could possibly trade up on Hollis...yes, the playoffs seem far away, but I don't think 2015-16 is too early to enter the discussion.

I imagine any offer for Klay will be matched.

[Sixteen]

Yep, what a crappy deal. I am disappointed in Hinkie for helping the Wolves out. It seems like Saunder just out Hinkie Hinkie.

What was your preferred return for Thad? Realistically

[SouthJersey]

Windworst is terrible. Im sick of hearing from that fat ****

[Katunga]

Supposedly we got Barea instead of Luc Mbah a Moute according to Windhorst...? WTF? Hopefully a mistype, if that is the case than this trade is much worse...

It's all "good":
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/503226919866089472[/tweet]

[phantom84]

Yep, what a crappy deal. I am disappointed in Hinkie for helping the Wolves out. It seems like Saunder just out Hinkie Hinkie.

What was your preferred return for Thad? Realistically

For Thad and helping them facilitate a Klove trade to Cav, I want Bennett or Shabazz realistically.

[LloydFree]

So if a first round pick is that easy to acquire as you said why would Hinkie give up a quality player for it instead of just buying one on the draft night ?
It's a really weird logic here. If you think paying 15 million to a decent player for a pick is too much then paying 7.5 million for two scrubs while giving up Thad is a huge overpay seems to me.

1. The player he is giving up isn't that good.
2. The player he is giving up only has 1 year on his deal and isn't part of the teams' future.
3. The player he is giving up makes MORE than the guys he's taking back.

Minnesota is practically PAYING the 76ers 2 million to take a 1st round pick, in Hinkies eyes. The Houston pick would COST them 15 million in real money. You aren't factoring in the reality of cost. Thad Young won't win or lose anymore games for the 76ers this year than Shved or aMoute. The 76ers aren't giving up anything.

I'm not sure man. You're just telling me this management are trying to save as much money as they can before considering how to improve our team. And I don't know what they are saving for when they've already been the one who's paying the least in this league.
I'm not saying this is a bad deal. I just don't think it's better than that assuming Lin deal.

For the fan that would rather see a 25 win 76er team, rather than a 15 win team, the Houston deal was much better.
From the organizations' standpoint, the Minnesota deal is infinitely better. It gets them the same asset while saving them 15 million dollars, and doesn't put the team in any worse situation for next season.

Your argument shouldn't be against THIS deal, because its a good deal. The argument should be that as fans, we don't care about their finances, and they should be willing to pay whatever, to get all the picks that were available. The Jeremy Lin pick and the Marcus Thornton Pick would have cost them about 23 million, for the two mid-20s picks. But I'm telling you... it's obvious they don't believe picks that late are worth that price. And I can't say I blame them.

[Sixteen]

Yep, what a crappy deal. I am disappointed in Hinkie for helping the Wolves out. It seems like Saunder just out Hinkie Hinkie.

What was your preferred return for Thad? Realistically

For Thad and helping them facilitate a Klove trade to Cav, I want Bennett or Shabazz realistically.

So basically just for the names. Bennet could be a good player but not much indicates that and we have like 3 Shabazz's on our team already.


We got a 1st round pick, a player thats going to make our franchise players transition easier and a project player in Shved. All for a one year rental in Thad for the Wolves. The sky is not falling

[BullyKing]

I had a ton of fun rooting against NO last year and following all the other games that impacted their standings. I'm looking forward to doing it again with Miami this year. That alone will provide me more entertainment next year than watching Shabazz.