The Legend of Joel Embiid

[Kolkmania]

A far more effective play would be for Simmons and him to simply play pick and roll from the 3 point line. its almost unstoppable. They do it so rarely I just don't get it.

Brett Brown seems to be allergic to the pick and roll when it is the most efficient form of basketball in the NBA.

It's not according to Synergy.

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To be fair, we don't have the personnel to run P&R's and look to score off it, with Richaun Holmes out we don't have a decent roll man, Embiid doesn't set proper screens and therefore rarely gets enough space when he pops and Amir Johnson walks in the right spots, but is not explosive enough anymore.
Also McConnell and Simmons are the only guys who can consistently penetrate and with Simmons' height he's vulnerable in dense areas on the court for poking the ball.

When Fultz comes back I do want to see the volume rise a bit, also some creativity with Simmons as the roll man, or like you said the Simmons/Embiid P&R with weakside action.

[Ericb5]

I wouldn't mind sitting him for the Hawks game

Why would we sit him?


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[eyeatoma]

I wouldn't mind sitting him for the Hawks game

Tell Embiid that...

[76ciology]

I wouldn't mind sitting him for the Hawks game

Why would we sit him?


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Im surprised U dont want to see more Amir Johnson.

+8.5 points favorite.

Ben Simmons needs to learn how to carry a team made up of scrubs like how Embiid does it. You can say all the Saric hurts Ben's impact but it's likely Biid can carry Saric's baggage and turn it into a plus unit.

[Unbreakable99]

I think we all need to give JoJo credit for being a more willing passer the past 2 games. He had 6 assists last night. He's learning and being smarter and less selfish. His passing out of the double teams were great recognition. Like they say with Lonzo Ball that his passing is contagious and call it the Lonzo effect maybe Ben passing is the Ben effect lol.

[Negrodamus]

I think we all need to give JoJo credit for being a more willing passer the past 2 games. He had 6 assists last night. He's learning and being smarter and less selfish. His passing out of the double teams were great recognition. Like they say with Lonzo Ball that his passing is contagious and call it the Lonzo effect maybe Ben passing is the Ben effect lol.

Definitely. And I think we'll reach peak Joel when he starts getting more foul calls. 5 FTA last night, 6 in each of the previous two games... He should be closer to 10 FTA when he's hitting his stride (and the refs are actually calling them).

[spikeslovechild]

A far more effective play would be for Simmons and him to simply play pick and roll from the 3 point line. its almost unstoppable. They do it so rarely I just don't get it.

Brett Brown seems to be allergic to the pick and roll when it is the most efficient form of basketball in the NBA.

It's not according to Synergy.

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To be fair, we don't have the personnel to run P&R's and look to score off it, with Richaun Holmes out we don't have a decent roll man, Embiid doesn't set proper screens and therefore rarely gets enough space when he pops and Amir Johnson walks in the right spots, but is not explosive enough anymore.
Also McConnell and Simmons are the only guys who can consistently penetrate and with Simmons' height he's vulnerable in dense areas on the court for poking the ball.

When Fultz comes back I do want to see the volume rise a bit, also some creativity with Simmons as the roll man, or like you said the Simmons/Embiid P&R with weakside action.

Even if Embiid set the best screens in the NBA using him that way would be a waste. So we get Embiid to set screens for what open looks for Simmons? He can't shoot. An open look for TJ? He won't shoot.

[spikeslovechild]

I think we all need to give JoJo credit for being a more willing passer the past 2 games. He had 6 assists last night. He's learning and being smarter and less selfish. His passing out of the double teams were great recognition. Like they say with Lonzo Ball that his passing is contagious and call it the Lonzo effect maybe Ben passing is the Ben effect lol.

Definitely. And I think we'll reach peak Joel when he starts getting more foul calls. 5 FTA last night, 6 in each of the previous two games... He should be closer to 10 FTA when he's hitting his stride (and the refs are actually calling them).

Like I said earlier we can blame the refs but when he does that jumpshot in the post rather then back his man hard to the rim he isn't ever going to get fouled. Players can't block it so they will let him take it every time. I have noticed him working more inside the last couple of games if he continues along that trend his efficiency will be much higher and he'll start getting more and 1 and FTs.

[MNSixerFan]

I think we all need to give JoJo credit for being a more willing passer the past 2 games. He had 6 assists last night. He's learning and being smarter and less selfish. His passing out of the double teams were great recognition. Like they say with Lonzo Ball that his passing is contagious and call it the Lonzo effect maybe Ben passing is the Ben effect lol.

Definitely. And I think we'll reach peak Joel when he starts getting more foul calls. 5 FTA last night, 6 in each of the previous two games... He should be closer to 10 FTA when he's hitting his stride (and the refs are actually calling them).

One thing jojo will learn is to quick pass the ball from the double then immediately establish post position closer to the basket. I would love to see them hire someone like Hakeem Olajuwon or Kevin McHale to work with his footwork and little things he doesn't quite know yet. When he gets it all figured out in a couple years he's going to be a monster.

[spikeslovechild]

I think we all need to give JoJo credit for being a more willing passer the past 2 games. He had 6 assists last night. He's learning and being smarter and less selfish. His passing out of the double teams were great recognition. Like they say with Lonzo Ball that his passing is contagious and call it the Lonzo effect maybe Ben passing is the Ben effect lol.

Definitely. And I think we'll reach peak Joel when he starts getting more foul calls. 5 FTA last night, 6 in each of the previous two games... He should be closer to 10 FTA when he's hitting his stride (and the refs are actually calling them).

One thing jojo will learn is to quick pass the ball from the double then immediately establish post position closer to the basket. I would love to see them hire someone like Hakeem Olajuwon or Kevin McHale to work with his footwork and little things he doesn't quite know yet. When he gets it all figured out in a couple years he's going to be a monster.

I think more then footwork we need to work on his mentality in he post. Things come too easy with him and he has soo many weapons often you see him when he fails to establish his post position and back his defender down
he'll just bail and either pass out or take a jumper over his defender. I'd like to see him put the ball back down and go right back to work. That was the great thing about Shaq. You couldn't defend him once and even if you did he'd regroup and go right back at you.

When the double team comes of course pass out but 1-1 he should be backing down his defender every time. These small Centers can't compete with him physically.

[MNSixerFan]

Definitely. And I think we'll reach peak Joel when he starts getting more foul calls. 5 FTA last night, 6 in each of the previous two games... He should be closer to 10 FTA when he's hitting his stride (and the refs are actually calling them).

One thing jojo will learn is to quick pass the ball from the double then immediately establish post position closer to the basket. I would love to see them hire someone like Hakeem Olajuwon or Kevin McHale to work with his footwork and little things he doesn't quite know yet. When he gets it all figured out in a couple years he's going to be a monster.

I think more then footwork we need to work on his mentality in he post. Things come too easy with him and he has soo many weapons often you see him when he fails to establish his post position and back his defender down
he'll just bail and either pass out or take a jumper over his defender. I'd like to see him put the ball back down and go right back to work. That was the great thing about Shaq. You couldn't defend him once and even if you did he'd regroup and go right back at you.

When the double team comes of course pass out but 1-1 he should be backing down his defender every time. These small Centers can't compete with him physically.

Agreed

Once he gets the little things figured out....look out!!!

[Kolkmania]

Brett Brown seems to be allergic to the pick and roll when it is the most efficient form of basketball in the NBA.

It's not according to Synergy.

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To be fair, we don't have the personnel to run P&R's and look to score off it, with Richaun Holmes out we don't have a decent roll man, Embiid doesn't set proper screens and therefore rarely gets enough space when he pops and Amir Johnson walks in the right spots, but is not explosive enough anymore.
Also McConnell and Simmons are the only guys who can consistently penetrate and with Simmons' height he's vulnerable in dense areas on the court for poking the ball.

When Fultz comes back I do want to see the volume rise a bit, also some creativity with Simmons as the roll man, or like you said the Simmons/Embiid P&R with weakside action.

Even if Embiid set the best screens in the NBA using him that way would be a waste. So we get Embiid to set screens for what open looks for Simmons? He can't shoot. An open look for TJ? He won't shoot.

Screen setting is so underrated. If Embiid sets a proper screen the big has to step up to prevent the guard from driving or he drops and gives the guard an opportunity to shoot. In our case it's the latter 90% of the times. Doesn't make the screen less effective since the following action from Embiid, either popping or rolling, will put massive pressure on the defense.
If Embiid pops the big is too far away to contest since he's clogging the driving lane, forcing a switch on Embiid or help defense, which can lead to open threes for Cov, Redick, etc. If Embiid rolls there's a two-on-one situation with the ball handler, Embiid against the big. Should result in a shot at the rim by the guard, big or a kickout opportunity due to weakside rotations.

[spikeslovechild]

It's not according to Synergy.

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To be fair, we don't have the personnel to run P&R's and look to score off it, with Richaun Holmes out we don't have a decent roll man, Embiid doesn't set proper screens and therefore rarely gets enough space when he pops and Amir Johnson walks in the right spots, but is not explosive enough anymore.
Also McConnell and Simmons are the only guys who can consistently penetrate and with Simmons' height he's vulnerable in dense areas on the court for poking the ball.

When Fultz comes back I do want to see the volume rise a bit, also some creativity with Simmons as the roll man, or like you said the Simmons/Embiid P&R with weakside action.

Even if Embiid set the best screens in the NBA using him that way would be a waste. So we get Embiid to set screens for what open looks for Simmons? He can't shoot. An open look for TJ? He won't shoot.

Screen setting is so underrated. If Embiid sets a proper screen the big has to step up to prevent the guard from driving or he drops and gives the guard an opportunity to shoot. In our case it's the latter 90% of the times. Doesn't make the screen less effective since the following action from Embiid, either popping or rolling, will put massive pressure on the defense.
If Embiid pops the big is too far away to contest since he's clogging the driving lane, forcing a switch on Embiid or help defense, which can lead to open threes for Cov, Redick, etc. If Embiid rolls there's a two-on-one situation with the ball handler, Embiid against the big. Should result in a shot at the rim by the guard, big or a kickout opportunity due to weakside rotations.

Except defenders sag off our ball handlers anyways. Why do we need to set screens for Simmons and TJ? I'd much rather let them draw defenders and have an extra target to pass to.

[NBA Moses]

Jojo needs to work on his ball control. He 7'2" the ball should be 8 foot in the air most of the time but he keeps it 4 feet at his waist and hes been getting his pocket picked way too much by players a foot shorter than him. Think he is 2nd in league in turnovers at nearly 5 per game. Needs to clean that up.

He has to stop trying to be superman. He can't block every shot, he can't guard every player on the court, he cant run around the floor like a maniac. He needs to stay at home and get better positioning on his man and better positioning for rebounds.

Other than that hes fantastic.

[Unbreakable99]

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[jaxsontend]

*knocks on wood*

He hits the deck a lot still, but his landings on his feet haven’t been so awkward this year so far.


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I think there was one dunk where he landed awkwardly this year, forgot which game

Anyway, looks like they tweaked his game and Im ok with it. I just hope he be careful and be a lot less reckless for these reg season games

He had one dunk a few games ago where he landed up his left leg while it was bent and it seemed unsteady for a second, but generally his base has been much better so far this year.

I don’t think all of the dives on the floor are likely to hurt him. I mean he might hurt something, but he isn’t likely to get a lower body injury that way. It’s the awkward landings on his feet, or rolled ankles that make me nervous.

Remember how Randall Cunningham used to always jump up in the air to protect his knees? That always worked for him. His first major knee injury was when he was standing in the pocket and someone dove into his legs.


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all the falls create way more risk of shoulder, back, pelvis, wrist, hip injuries which are all scary

[Ericb5]

I think there was one dunk where he landed awkwardly this year, forgot which game

Anyway, looks like they tweaked his game and Im ok with it. I just hope he be careful and be a lot less reckless for these reg season games

He had one dunk a few games ago where he landed up his left leg while it was bent and it seemed unsteady for a second, but generally his base has been much better so far this year.

I don’t think all of the dives on the floor are likely to hurt him. I mean he might hurt something, but he isn’t likely to get a lower body injury that way. It’s the awkward landings on his feet, or rolled ankles that make me nervous.

Remember how Randall Cunningham used to always jump up in the air to protect his knees? That always worked for him. His first major knee injury was when he was standing in the pocket and someone dove into his legs.


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all the falls create way more risk of shoulder, back, pelvis, wrist, hip injuries which are all scary

I would rather him not fall than fall, but they are less scary than the foot and knee injuries to me.


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[76ciology]

Was there anything wrong with Embiid against the Pacers? He look off in the first half

[eyeatoma]

Was there anything wrong with Embiid against the Pacers? He look off in the first half

Foul trouble..

The pace was ridiculously fast as well... As I said earlier, if we're going to play at that pace he needs to be down to 265-270 max...

If not, we need to slow it down with him in the lineup, and run a ton of PnR to get him efficient looks at the rim

[76thBearCub]

Was there anything wrong with Embiid against the Pacers? He look off in the first half

His body language has been horrible. He seems pissed off all the time as opposed to last year when he seemed to be enjoying himself. I don't get it. He gets paid and its like he's pissed off about it. He's had a few unnecessary hard fouls. He seems like a different guy this year.

He's trying way too hard a lot of the time on offense. I'm not worried about that. His game will come around.