Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

[sixers23]

I don't get why the wolves want to rent Thad for one year when they will be the worst team in the west. Hinkie wins again

[Hardcore6erFan]

Amazed that some posters think this is a bad trade.
1. Thad Young is a 1 year rental and will opt out.
2. Thad Young doesn't fit age-wise with the rest of the roster.
3. Heat pick could easily be in the late lottery because of Wade's health issues. Deng and Granger are also injury prone. In the last 10 years here are some players selected in the 11-21 range: Klay Thompson at #11, MCW at #11, Kawhi Leonard at #15, Antetokounmpo at #15, Al Jefferson at #15, Larry Sanders at #15, Vucevic at #16, Josh Smith at #17, Danny Granger at #17, Roy Hibbert at #17, Jrue Holiday at #17, Ty Lawson at #18, Eric Bledsoe at #18, Rondo at #21. All of those guys are exponentially more valuable than Thad, especially with rookie scale contracts taken into consideration.
5. Worse record in 2014-15 which means better chance of high lottery pick.
6. Sixers save almost 2 million in salary.
7. Trading Thad means more Noel at power forward and less chance of him getting injured against centers.
8. Mbah Moute will help Embiid adjust to NBA life.

[Hardcore6erFan]

This is a laughably bad trade that accomplishes nothing for us. Why would we do this? Is Hinkie going to run out onto the court in our home opener and kick Wade in the knees? Do they need LMAM to get his pom poms ready so he can cheer for Embiid at the doctor's office? We need another 3 million dollars in cap space that we're never going to use?

Thad is a good player to have around a young squad and we gave him away for almost nothing. Maybe we can get lucky and that Miami draft pick can actually make our roster 2 seasons from now, that's literally the only saving grace here.

Nice trolling.

[phantom84]

What was your preferred return for Thad? Realistically

For Thad and helping them facilitate a Klove trade to Cav, I want Bennett or Shabazz realistically.

So basically just for the names. Bennet could be a good player but not much indicates that and we have like 3 Shabazz's on our team already.


We got a 1st round pick, a player thats going to make our franchise players transition easier and a project player in Shved. All for a one year rental in Thad for the Wolves. The sky is not falling

No not the name, but the upside potential of those two players. I know exactly what I am getting with Shved and that is a mediocre role player, and I don't really care for a babysitter. Also, Bennett impressed me a lot in the Summer League because he looks to be in shape and play with a lot of ferocity. I can also criticize this **** trade and still think the Sixers are in good position. They are not mutually exclusive. So yeah the sky is not falling.

[BullyKing]

Amazed that some posters think this is a bad trade.
1. Thad Young is a 1 year rental and will opt out.
2. Thad Young doesn't fit age-wise with the rest of the roster.
3. Heat pick could easily be in the late lottery because of Wade's health issues. Deng and Granger are also injury prone. In the last 10 years here are some players selected in the 11-21 range: Klay Thompson at #11, MCW at #11, Kawhi Leonard at #15, Antetokounmpo at #15, Al Jefferson at #15, Larry Sanders at #15, Vucevic at #16, Josh Smith at #17, Danny Granger at #17, Roy Hibbert at #17, Jrue Holiday at #17, Ty Lawson at #18, Eric Bledsoe at #18, Rondo at #21. All of those guys are exponentially more valuable than Thad, especially with rookie scale contracts considered taken into consideration.
5. Worse record in 2014-15 which means better chance of high lottery pick.
6. Sixers save almost 2 million in salary.
7. Trading Thad means more Noel at power forward and less chance of him getting injured against centers.
8. Mbah Moute will help Embiid adjust to NBA life.

Great list and I'll add another. Having the Miami pick opens up additional trade options. For instance, we've talked about a potential Amare trade but the Knicks lack of assets make it a problem. We've never talked about the Knicks 2015 1st round pick because they can't trade it. They can, however, trade the right to swap picks. Now obviously that would have never interested the Sixers with our own pick but that is a possibility with Miami's now.

[LloydFree]

Yep, what a crappy deal. I am disappointed in Hinkie for helping the Wolves out. It seems like Saunder just out Hinkie Hinkie.

What was your preferred return for Thad? Realistically

For Thad and helping them facilitate a Klove trade to Cav, I want Bennett or Shabazz realistically.

FWIW, Kevin Pelton, the ESPN analytics writer, said the 2015 Miami pick was a much better piece, than getting Anthony Bennett at that salary.

[Sixteen]

For Thad and helping them facilitate a Klove trade to Cav, I want Bennett or Shabazz realistically.

So basically just for the names. Bennet could be a good player but not much indicates that and we have like 3 Shabazz's on our team already.


We got a 1st round pick, a player thats going to make our franchise players transition easier and a project player in Shved. All for a one year rental in Thad for the Wolves. The sky is not falling

No not the name, but the upside potential of those two players. I know exactly what I am getting with Shved and that is a mediocre role player, and I don't really care for a babysitter. Also, Bennett impressed me a lot in the Summer League because he looks to be in shape and play with a lot of ferocity. I can also criticize this **** trade and still think the Sixers are in good position. They are not mutually exclusive. So yeah the sky is not falling.

Well I guess you told me.

[phantom84]

What was your preferred return for Thad? Realistically

For Thad and helping them facilitate a Klove trade to Cav, I want Bennett or Shabazz realistically.

FWIW, Kevin Pelton, the ESPN analytics writer, said the 2015 Miami pick was a much better piece, than getting Anthony Bennett at that salary.

Sure he is entitled to his opinion, but the last thing we need to worry about is the salary cap.

[BullyKing]

For Thad and helping them facilitate a Klove trade to Cav, I want Bennett or Shabazz realistically.

FWIW, Kevin Pelton, the ESPN analytics writer, said the 2015 Miami pick was a much better piece, than getting Anthony Bennett at that salary.

Sure he is entitled to his opinion, but the last thing we need to worry about is the salary cap.

It's not about the salary cap, its about the asset. Per Pelton, the pick is a "vastly" more valuable asset than Bennett.

[HartfordWhalers]

Added the poll and such.

[phantom84]

FWIW, Kevin Pelton, the ESPN analytics writer, said the 2015 Miami pick was a much better piece, than getting Anthony Bennett at that salary.

Sure he is entitled to his opinion, but the last thing we need to worry about is the salary cap.

It's not about the salary cap, its about the asset. Per Pelton, the pick is a "vastly" more valuable asset than Bennett.

A really late first rounder since I see Miami being somewhere between 3 - 6 in the East. I don't see how that is a valuable asset than Bennett who can potentially be an all star some day. A former first who had a bad rookie season, but we do see glimpse of how good he can be is better than a late 1st rounder to me.

[Mr Sixer]

Hinkie very well could have really held up the trade and refused to deal Thad unless we got Bennett and maybe it could've worked. There's also a possibility that if he tried to do that the Wolves would've found another Love replacement or facilitator for the deal who would gladly take the pick and you guys would be sitting here complaining that we didn't get in on the trade like with the Lin deal. There's also a chance Hinkie valued this deal more than a Bennett deal for various reasons that have already been listed in this thread. The bottom line is nobody has any clue what the situation surrounding the deal was so this whole coming on here and venting that you don't like the return we got for Thad business is totally unnecessary. We got more value than we should have for a one year expiring that was not going to resign with us and we should be happy. Hinkie has not made a blunder yet (fingers crossed) so lets have faith in him, and question him when it is justified, not at a ridiculous time like this.

[BullyKing]

Sure he is entitled to his opinion, but the last thing we need to worry about is the salary cap.

It's not about the salary cap, its about the asset. Per Pelton, the pick is a "vastly" more valuable asset than Bennett.

A really late first rounder since I see Miami being somewhere between 3 - 6 in the East. I don't see how that is a valuable asset than Bennett who can potentially be an all star some day. A former first who had a bad rookie season, but we do see glimpse of how good he can be is better than a late 1st rounder to me.

The number 3 team in the East last year was still worse than all 8 West playoff teams. This pick has a fantastic chance to be in the 15-19 range even without a major Bosh or Wade injury.

[76ciology]

I think the expectation of landing a former no.1 overall pick in Bennett set up the Sixers for some disappointment. But looking at this trade one year from now, I think this deal might prove to be the better package.

IMO Shved and Luc Mbah's expiring can turn into 2nd rounders that can do some kind of combination in the future along with the heat pick to move up. And if not, I'm sure Hinkie can find a gem with the Heat pick. It's not like we missed out on a future all-star in Bennett for the package we received.

With Bennett, like in my previous posts, I think it all starts and ends with his conditioning. And with his asthma condition and natural sean kingston like physique, I think he's going to have a hard time getting into great conditioning.

It hurts losing Thad. But you guys need to realize that losing Thad for nothing would hurt more.

Is this deal the best package for Thad? We don't know. But I'm sure that if we let this one pass us by, It's very unlikely that we are going to get a 1st for Thad.

[LloydFree]

A really late first rounder since I see Miami being somewhere between 3 - 6 in the East. I don't see how that is a valuable asset than Bennett who can potentially be an all star some day. A former first who had a bad rookie season, but we do see glimpse of how good he can be is better than a late 1st rounder to me.

Last year the 3-6 seeds in the East would've picked at slots #17, 18, 19 and 20.

(If they all owned their own picks)

[phantom84]

It's not about the salary cap, its about the asset. Per Pelton, the pick is a "vastly" more valuable asset than Bennett.

A really late first rounder since I see Miami being somewhere between 3 - 6 in the East. I don't see how that is a valuable asset than Bennett who can potentially be an all star some day. A former first who had a bad rookie season, but we do see glimpse of how good he can be is better than a late 1st rounder to me.

The number 3 team in the East last year was still worse than all 8 West playoff teams. This pick has a fantastic chance to be in the 15-19 range even without a major Bosh or Wade injury.

Well, I hope so for our sake but I have a feeling Dwade and Bosh is playing with a chip on their shoulder.

[DavidHume]

A really late first rounder since I see Miami being somewhere between 3 - 6 in the East. I don't see how that is a valuable asset than Bennett who can potentially be an all star some day. A former first who had a bad rookie season, but we do see glimpse of how good he can be is better than a late 1st rounder to me.

The number 3 team in the East last year was still worse than all 8 West playoff teams. This pick has a fantastic chance to be in the 15-19 range even without a major Bosh or Wade injury.

Well, I hope so for our sake but I have a feeling Dwade and Bosh is playing with a chip on their shoulder.

Miami won 54 games last year. How many games do you see them winning this year? If they win 10 fewer games, that would put them somewhere around pick number 18.

[SouthJersey]

Do we know if this pick is protected in anyway?

[MountainDrew]

Do we know if this pick is protected in anyway?

top 10 protected in 2015 and 2016, unprotected in 2017

We now own 5 picks in the 2015 nba draft.

[BNelley24]

Listening to Rob Charry on WIP pisses me off. He mocks the 76ers plan every time he talks about them. He's clueless.