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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#901 » by TTP » Thu Feb 1, 2018 3:37 pm

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bobbeaver wrote:im not so sure about that. His hot streak has been going on for 2 months now with a big 4-5 days break in the middle when he should have cooled off. Im not saying he will be shooting .435 he is doing in the last 2 months, but i dont think the cool off will be so sever. Mostly cause he gets better as the season comes closer to a close. But we will see. I think the number .38-.39% is sustainable.
But it also depends if he will continue to have open shots for 3, which i believe wount change. The fact he has shot some of the screen shots aswell tells me he locked the stroke in. But as i said we will see.


So in the last post you referenced a 19 minute sample size of good defense. In this post you're referencing 2 months of 3 point shooting. You place far too much emphasis on small sample sizes of data.

The last 2 months (since Nov 25), he's taken 133 three point attempts. A 133 attempt sample is nowhere near a conclusive sample - even a 750 attempt sample is ~50% noise. He had over 2.5x those attempts last year and shot 31.1%. In that sample, he's shooting 39.1%. So if you think 38-39% is sustainable, you are basically saying that you think his peak is sustainable. There's just no way that's smart forecasting.

Do you care to explain what do you mean by 50% noise? I assume you assume a stationary binomial probability distribution, but do not get what is the definition of noise? Are you relating to variance or to some significance bounds in Bayesian estimator of true probability parameter???


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Post#902 » by Negrodamus » Thu Feb 1, 2018 5:34 pm

I'd love to see who is the recipient of the majority of Simmons's assists. Many would say Embiid sight unseen; I'd probably say Saric. Those two play so well together on offense.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#903 » by CoreyGallagher » Thu Feb 1, 2018 9:08 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I'd love to see who is the recipient of the majority of Simmons's assists. Many would say Embiid sight unseen; I'd probably say Saric. Those two play so well together on offense.

Wouldn't surprise me. Embiid doesn't give Simmons too many assists, he's too methodical in how he scores, usually creating space for himself.

Per possession I think Anderson would probably be up there as well, they seem to click.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#904 » by ratrac » Sat Feb 3, 2018 3:59 am

Negrodamus wrote:I'd love to see who is the recipient of the majority of Simmons's assists. Many would say Embiid sight unseen; I'd probably say Saric. Those two play so well together on offense.


If I'm understanding this correctly, it's 1.7 AST per game to Šaric (leading), Cov second (1.3), Embiid third (1.2) (you'd have to account that Embiid has played 9 fewer games than Dario, so it's closer actually). But then again Dario has a terrible FG% after receiving a pass from Ben, just high volume.
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Post#905 » by bobbeaver » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:01 am

Well another great perfotmance by Dario tonight. Light it up when needed to and diled down when rest of the team woke up on O. Nice and well deserved double double.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#906 » by tk76 » Sat Feb 3, 2018 7:56 pm

His last year at Efes, Saric was a 50/40/90 guy. He can shoot, he just needed to get his feet under him in the NBA.

That year there was 1 50/40/90 player in the NBA, and only 2 in Euroleague, so it's not like guys are putting up shooting numbers like that on a regular basis. Saric is currently 44/37.5/89.6, and I expect those numbers to continue improve as he further acclimates to the NBA. He does not score with athleticism, and he is not a guy who can shoot well off balance (a learned shooter as opposed to a pure one.) You can see how much his 3pt% and finishing % in the lane has improved this year. The guy is obviously puts in the work and thinks his way through a game, so I don't see why he won't continue to improve in the way he picks his spots as a shooter and scorer.

I've never cared whether Saric is a starter or sixth man long term. Just confident that he's a guy who will fully maximize his talent and get heavy minutes because he helps teams win. Put it this way, if Saric is your 3rd best player on the floor, then you likely have a plus lineup.
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Post#907 » by agiaco » Sat Feb 3, 2018 8:26 pm

Dario is a big part of why we're over 500 this season.
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Post#908 » by Stanford » Sat Feb 3, 2018 9:42 pm

Dario has been really good this year. I love him and never want him to leave.
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Post#909 » by Eta Carinae » Sat Feb 3, 2018 9:55 pm

Watching the game now. Dario Saric is absolutely disgusting. He is playing with Miami
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Post#910 » by Eta Carinae » Sat Feb 3, 2018 9:59 pm

Stanford wrote:Dario has been really good this year. I love him and never want him to leave.

It would be to perfect if he is a sixer for life.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#911 » by Eta Carinae » Sat Feb 3, 2018 10:12 pm

tk76 wrote:His last year at Efes, Saric was a 50/40/90 guy. He can shoot, he just needed to get his feet under him in the NBA.

That year there was 1 50/40/90 player in the NBA, and only 2 in Euroleague, so it's not like guys are putting up shooting numbers like that on a regular basis. Saric is currently 44/37.5/89.6, and I expect those numbers to continue improve as he further acclimates to the NBA. He does not score with athleticism, and he is not a guy who can shoot well off balance (a learned shooter as opposed to a pure one.) You can see how much his 3pt% and finishing % in the lane has improved this year. The guy is obviously puts in the work and thinks his way through a game, so I don't see why he won't continue to improve in the way he picks his spots as a shooter and scorer.

I've never cared whether Saric is a starter or sixth man long term. Just confident that he's a guy who will fully maximize his talent and get heavy minutes because he helps teams win. Put it this way, if Saric is your 3rd best player on the floor, then you likely have a plus lineup.

I couldn't have said it better. I think Darios bb iq is top 5 in the league. That man just knows how to maximise his talents.
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Post#912 » by bobbeaver » Sun Feb 4, 2018 1:15 am

I love the fact that he no longer needs an open shot to torch the opposing players from 3. Idn if you guys noticed but he is shooting now over guards. Guards still do tend to be a bit too far away from him to contest, but are on him. Ofc he does this thing with the ball before shooting where it looks like he will drive and guard reacts and he shoots over the guard. At high percentage still. Thats next lvl stuff.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#913 » by Stanford » Sun Feb 4, 2018 1:37 am

We are getting way too cute with these passes
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Post#914 » by ziggy77 » Mon Feb 5, 2018 7:17 pm

You see Dario to have Paul Millsap like career when it's all said and done? It would be interesting to see your thoughts on that guys.
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Post#916 » by 76ciology » Thu Feb 8, 2018 2:43 pm

What can we get for Saric in the deadline?
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Post#917 » by rzzzzz » Thu Feb 8, 2018 4:39 pm

the scary thing is how good Dario will be once the refs start giving him FTs when guys hang on him.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#918 » by Ericb5 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 9:32 pm

rzzzzz wrote:the scary thing is how good Dario will be once the refs start giving him FTs when guys hang on him.


He gets basically zero respect from the refs. It isn’t like he shies away from contact either.


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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#919 » by bobbeaver » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:04 am

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This almost half a season of stats. God damn. Those stats are high. 42.5% for 3? That is one hell of a long run for a streak. What is more important is he is makeing em off screans and while guarded aswell.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#920 » by Leronziia » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:15 am

If this shooting is real, he's another core piece alongside Joel and Ben.

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